[Wikitech-l] Running periodic updates on a large number of wikis.

2013-01-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
This is a follow-up to Rob's mail Wikidata change propogation. I feel that the question of running periodic jobs on a large number of wikis is a more generic one, and deserves a separate thread. Here's what I think we need: 1) Only one process should be performing a given update job on a given

Re: [Wikitech-l] Generating documentation from JavaScript doc comments

2013-01-04 Thread Krinkle
On Dec 28, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote: We have all these JavaScript documentation comments, but we're not actually generating docs. This has been talked about before, e.g. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/208357?do=post_view_threaded,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata change propogation

2013-01-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Thanks Rob for starting the conversation about this. I have explained our questions about how to run updates in the mail titled Running periodic updates on a large number of wikis, because I feel that this is a more general issue, and I'd like to decouple it a bit from the Wikidata specifics.

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2013-01-04 Thread Matma Rex
On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 05:42:45 +0100, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: On 01/02/2013 06:11 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Every wiki has a different approach to bots. But for English Wikipedia, that is not how the approval process (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BOTAPPROVAL) works:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can we help Tor users make legitimate edits?

2013-01-04 Thread Tyler Romeo
On the topic of whether allowing Tor users to edit is a concern, I believe so. Because of Tor blocks, it is sometimes extremely difficult, or even impossible altogether, to edit Wikipedia for some users. I believe we should give these users the opportunity to contribute rather than have them

[Wikitech-l] Adapting Visual Editor for 1.19

2013-01-04 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Would it be possible to adapt the Visual Editor to run under 1.19? I have a couple of reasons for wanting that: * 1.19 is our LTS release. Visual Editor looks awesome and I'd like to provide people who are stuck on older versions of MediaWiki with a persuasive reason to upgrade to 1.19 at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Adapting Visual Editor for 1.19

2013-01-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 January 2013 17:02, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org wrote: Is anyone else interested in helping to make this happen? I have no coding ability but would LOVE this for our work 1.19 instances, and would be most pleased to test. - d. ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Adapting Visual Editor for 1.19

2013-01-04 Thread Chris McMahon
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:04 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 January 2013 17:02, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org wrote: Is anyone else interested in helping to make this happen? I have no coding ability but would LOVE this for our work 1.19 instances, and would be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Adapting Visual Editor for 1.19

2013-01-04 Thread Gabriel Wicke
On 01/04/2013 09:02 AM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: There is a dependency on Parsoid and node.js, of course, that a FCKeditor doesn't need, but I'm assuming right now that if MediaWiki works with the extension, then the Parsoid instance will just run. This should be the case. Parsoid only

Re: [Wikitech-l] Generating documentation from JavaScript doc comments

2013-01-04 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/04/2013 08:00 AM, Krinkle wrote: Doxygen is indeed not meant for JavaScript. With some hacks it can be tricked into reading comment blocks from javascript files, but that won't scale for our code base, nor will it be enough to make a useful structure given the dynamic way JavaScript

Re: [Wikitech-l] Adapting Visual Editor for 1.19 - [FCKeditor issues]

2013-01-04 Thread Thomas Gries
Am 04.01.2013 18:02, schrieb Mark A. Hershberger: * FCKeditor is no longer supported for MediaWiki, but people are still using it and, for some reason, like what it provides. If we can make the Visual Editor available to them, I'm hoping the need for FCKeditor will disappear. Hi Mark, and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Adapting Visual Editor for 1.19 - [FCKeditor issues]

2013-01-04 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 01/04/2013 01:26 PM, Thomas Gries wrote: I must warn users, because the FCKeditor as such has known security issues. Even more reason for us to get VE working against 1.19. I saw that some people have added instructions for FCKeditor on 1.19, but VE would be much more compelling if we can

Re: [Wikitech-l] Adapting Visual Editor for 1.19 - [FCKeditor issues]

2013-01-04 Thread Thomas Gries
Am 04.01.2013 19:57, schrieb Mark A. Hershberger: Even more reason for us to get VE working against 1.19. I saw that some people have added instructions for FCKeditor on 1.19, but VE would be much more compelling if we can get it working. Yes! Switching between MediaWiki Wiki syntax and the

[Wikitech-l] revamped/updated QA docs on mediawiki.org

2013-01-04 Thread Chris McMahon
I've sorted, linked, tagged, organized, and gardened our collection of QA pages on mw.o to be more useful. Of course there is always more to do, so comments, criticism, edits are welcome. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA -Chris ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] LevelUp (sequel to What do you want to learn? 20% time)

2013-01-04 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 11/21/2012 07:10 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: LevelUp is a mentorship program that will start in January 2013 and that replaces the 20% time policy https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_20%25_policy for Wikimedia Foundation engineers. Technical contributors, volunteer or

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can we help Tor users make legitimate edits?

2013-01-04 Thread bawolff
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: [..] As far as a solution goes, I have a complete codebase for Extension:TokenAuth, which allows users to have MediaWiki sign a blinded token, which can then be used to bypass a specific IP block in order to log in and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can we help Tor users make legitimate edits?

2013-01-04 Thread Risker
On 4 January 2013 20:44, bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: [..] As far as a solution goes, I have a complete codebase for Extension:TokenAuth, which allows users to have MediaWiki sign a blinded token, which can

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can we help Tor users make legitimate edits?

2013-01-04 Thread aude
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Bawolff has it right, pretty much. For legitimate users, an IPBE can be handed out. We have very limited human resources on the projects themselves to address the issuing of tokens and IPBEs now. For me, this is largely a