Re: [Wikitech-l] Github Extensions

2013-02-07 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/07/2013 03:14 AM, MZMcBride wrote: Sure, I picked Gists. It didn't seem like a very difficult choice. All cleaned up (redirected) now. I don't think that makes sense. If someone has a link to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gist from a README or something, they're now going to a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github Extensions

2013-02-07 Thread MZMcBride
Matthew Flaschen wrote: On 02/07/2013 03:14 AM, MZMcBride wrote: Sure, I picked Gists. It didn't seem like a very difficult choice. All cleaned up (redirected) now. I don't think that makes sense. If someone has a link to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gist from a README or something,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Documentation talk, the second

2013-02-07 Thread Petr Bena
Everyone knows your phone is more powerful than half of production cluster, but now back to the business We should make a structure for this new documentation base we are going to create, I think beside of categories, they might be some spaces at least Documentation: or something like that, where

Re: [Wikitech-l] Comparisons to Confluence (was Minimalist MediaWiki? (was Re: Merge Vector extension into core))

2013-02-07 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, For corporate adoption, the main thing MediaWiki needs is not some particular feature. It needs to be supported. It needs an organisation with people who will care if corporate users are screwed over by a change. It needs community management, so that the features needed by corporate

[Wikitech-l] RFC: Standardized thumbnails sizes

2013-02-07 Thread Antoine Musso
Hello, Wikitext editors can have media materials rendered using any arbitrary size (the thumbnails wikitext syntax). Each different size would produce a hit to the server backend which will generate a thumbnail for that size. The following requests for comment is about having a consistent set

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Standardized thumbnails sizes

2013-02-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 February 2013 11:37, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: The following requests for comment is about having a consistent set of thumbnails sizes that are allowed to be rendered and let the client browser to do the up or down scaling.

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews

2013-02-07 Thread Mark Bergsma
On Feb 6, 2013, at 9:32 PM, David Schoonover d...@wikimedia.org wrote: Just want to summarize and make sure I've got the right conclusions, as this thread has wandered a bit. *1. X-MF-Mode: Alpha/Beta Site Usage* * * We'll roll this into the X-CS header, which will now be KV-pairs (using

Re: [Wikitech-l] Documentation talk, the second

2013-02-07 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone knows your phone is more powerful than half of production cluster, but now back to the business We should make a structure for this new documentation base we are going to create, I think beside of categories, they

Re: [Wikitech-l] Documentation talk, the second

2013-02-07 Thread Petr Bena
I think subsections are fine as long as they are small, for long pages, it would be better to have it as subpage. But TBH I would prefer the subpages everywhere, you can always create some index page that would include the subpages to subsections. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Ryan Lane

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews

2013-02-07 Thread David Schoonover
I'd like to propose to define *one* request header to be used for all analytics purposes. It can be key/value pairs, and be set client side where applicable. Varnish can append to it where needed, later keys overriding earlier ones. Then we can log that one header across all HTTP/caching

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github Extensions

2013-02-07 Thread Tyler Romeo
I should also point out that the likelihood of any links pointing to either of the other two extensions is very low, considering neither have README files (both had their code on the page) and only the GitHub extension even had the extension page URL in the extension description. *--* *Tyler

[Wikitech-l] How can we help Corporations use MW? (Was Re: Comparisons to Confluence)

2013-02-07 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
(Added MW-Enterprise mailing list) On 02/06/2013 10:00 PM, Tim Starling wrote: For corporate adoption, the main thing MediaWiki needs is not some particular feature. It needs to be supported. It needs an organisation with people who will care if corporate users are screwed over by a change.

Re: [Wikitech-l] How can we help Corporations use MW? (Was Re: Comparisons to Confluence)

2013-02-07 Thread Dan Andreescu
On 02/06/2013 10:00 PM, Tim Starling wrote: For corporate adoption, the main thing MediaWiki needs is not some particular feature. It needs to be supported. It needs an organisation with people who will care if corporate users are screwed over by a change. It needs community management,

Re: [Wikitech-l] How can we help Corporations use MW? (Was Re: Comparisons to Confluence)

2013-02-07 Thread Dan Andreescu
Sorry about that - Gmail reload glitch On 02/06/2013 10:00 PM, Tim Starling wrote: For corporate adoption, the main thing MediaWiki needs is not some particular feature. It needs to be supported. It needs an organisation with people who will care if corporate users are screwed over by a

Re: [Wikitech-l] How can we help Corporations use MW? (Was Re: Comparisons to Confluence)

2013-02-07 Thread Maria Miteva
Hi Dan, We have http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Third-party_MediaWiki_users_discussion where we've been discussing some MW user issues, but the dicussion was not focused on corporate per se. We can use the same page or maybe set up a subpage if you think it will be easier. There is also

Re: [Wikitech-l] How can we help Corporations use MW? (Was Re: Comparisons to Confluence)

2013-02-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 February 2013 17:06, Dan Andreescu dandree...@wikimedia.org wrote: I was on the other side of this, albeit a while back. We had to decide between MediaWiki and Confluence to power Disney's ParentPedia (which has since been abandoned): The main reasons we chose Confluence: * An easier

Re: [Wikitech-l] How can we help Corporations use MW? (Was Re: Comparisons to Confluence)

2013-02-07 Thread OQ
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:45 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: (In my current job I'm happily spreading MediaWikis far and wide, albeit with very little customisation. But I'm really keen to use the Visual Editor as soon as it's in a tarball version.) Yes, that is the prime reason

[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia engineering January 2013 report

2013-02-07 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, The report covering Wikimedia engineering activities in January 2013 is now available. Wiki version: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2013/January Blog version: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/02/07/engineering-january-2013-report/ We're also proposing a shorter,

Re: [Wikitech-l] How can we help Corporations use MW? (Was Re: Comparisons to Confluence)

2013-02-07 Thread Thomas Gries
Yes, that is the prime reason we're still on 1.17 at work, it's the most recent version the FCKEditor extension works on. @Admins who use FCKEditor: please be reminded that be reminded, that FCKEditor has severe security issues. ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] How can we help Corporations use MW? (Was Re: Comparisons to Confluence)

2013-02-07 Thread OQ
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: @Admins who use FCKEditor: please be reminded that be reminded, that FCKEditor has severe security issues. Yes, but as I mentioned until there is a suitable replacement, your choices are: run an insecure wiki, not use

[Wikitech-l] 1.21wmf9 deployment blocker: bug 44748 (editing broken ku.wiktionary and sr.wikinews)

2013-02-07 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi folks, We had to revert 1.21wmf9 on a few wikis due to bug 44748. Bug report: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44748 The problem is that, when 1.21wmf9 is enabled, editing is completely broken on ku.wiktionary and sr.wikinews, among others. Below is the stack trace. Any ideas? Rob

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia engineering January 2013 report

2013-02-07 Thread Platonides
On 07/02/13 20:57, Guillaume Paumier wrote: *Git conversion https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Conversion* The ExtensionDistributorhttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ExtensionDistributorwas rewritten in early January. While this was primarily done to support the data center

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia engineering January 2013 report

2013-02-07 Thread Chad
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 20:57, Guillaume Paumier wrote: *Git conversion https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Conversion* The ExtensionDistributorhttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ExtensionDistributorwas rewritten in early

Re: [Wikitech-l] How can we help Corporations use MW? (Was Re: Comparisons to Confluence)

2013-02-07 Thread Thomas Gries
Am 07.02.2013 21:46, schrieb OQ: On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: @Admins who use FCKEditor: please be reminded that be reminded, that FCKEditor has severe security issues. Yes, but as I mentioned until there is a suitable replacement, your choices are: run

[Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-07 Thread Daniel Barrett
Vistaprint (www.vistaprint.com) has a hugely successful MediaWiki system internally. 150,000+ topics, 1000+ active users across several continents, five years of history, and a fully supported team of developers to create extensions. (We are looking into open-sourcing some of them.) The main

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-07 Thread Tyler Romeo
I don't mind these discussions, but can we please stop changing the subject, because it's changed three times and it makes it difficult to keep track of. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Daniel Barrett d...@vistaprint.com 1. A desire for a department to have their own space on the wiki. I'm not talking about access control, but (1) customized look feel, and (2) ability to narrow searches to find articles only within that space. The closest

Re: [Wikitech-l] How can we help Corporations use MW? (Was Re: Comparisons to Confluence)

2013-02-07 Thread Quim Gil
On 02/07/2013 08:17 AM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: (Added MW-Enterprise mailing list) On 02/06/2013 10:00 PM, Tim Starling wrote: For corporate adoption, the main thing MediaWiki needs is not some particular feature. It needs to be supported. It needs an organisation with people who will care

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki API at Codecademy?

2013-02-07 Thread Quim Gil
Long story short: the MediaWiki API could be included at http://www.codecademy.com/tracks/apis if someone wants to do the work. Codecademy is happy to have us there. I think it is a good idea, in need of someone willing to drive this: - It is a good excuse to improve our API documentation at

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki API at Codecademy?

2013-02-07 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
I will be happy to part-take in this, as I do have some experience with the API :) I am heading the API v2 project, and this would be a natural extension of that. * RFC http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/API_Future * Action/Parameter

Re: [Wikitech-l] NullLockManager and the math extension

2013-02-07 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/06/2013 08:09 PM, Aaron Schulz wrote: nullLockManager is defined in Setup.php.The code: LockManagerGroup::singleton()-get( 'nullLockManager' ); ... works fine in eval.php and is used in production. However, $wgLockManagers is redefined in parserTest.inc . It looks like it's basically