[Wikitech-l] Summaryog GSoC project: Prototyping inline comments

2013-10-02 Thread Richa Jain
I worked on making a prototype for an extension supporting inline comments on wiki artciles. This was implemented using the Open Knowledge Foundation Annotator (OKFN) library. The project can be tested [1], switch to the view annotations tab, select a particular text and leave an annotation. It

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-02 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 02/10/13 00:52, Greg Grossmeier a écrit : now if only Launchpad would support building packages against Debian... :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/188564 We could build the packages ourself using a Debian image in labs then upload the resulting deb to launchpad / whatever

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-02 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, No, just set $wgServer to the protocol-relative URL (e.g. //wiki.example.com) and set $wgCanonicalServer to the protocol-specific URL (e.g. https://wiki.example.com). This is how we do it at WMF. I have tested this setup just now with the HTML file cache, and it works just fine. Thanks

Re: [Wikitech-l] IRC meeting for RFC review

2013-10-02 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 01:49:39 +0200, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 24/09/13 07:30, Tim Starling wrote: How about we also schedule a meeting for 2 October, 06:00 UTC? So the first week will be US/Australia, and the second will be Europe/Australia. Reminder: this is happening

Re: [Wikitech-l] Case Insensitive Database Lookups

2013-10-02 Thread Sean Pringle
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Given that I want to support case insensitive searching; does anyone have any thoughts or examples on how to go about doing it in a binary table? The only solution I can think of would be to change the

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-02 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 10/02/2013 04:36 AM, Antoine Musso wrote: Le 02/10/13 00:52, Greg Grossmeier a écrit : now if only Launchpad would support building packages against Debian... :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/188564 We could build the packages ourself using a Debian image in labs then

Re: [Wikitech-l] Officially supported MediaWiki hosting service?

2013-10-02 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 10/01/2013 02:53 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: Ideally, my vision of a general-purpose wiki hosting service would provide options that orgs like Wikia generally don't. If there is an effort to work with hosting providers, I would suggest finding a way to work with a large number of providers

Re: [Wikitech-l] Officially supported MediaWiki hosting service?

2013-10-02 Thread Chris McMahon
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:57 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: Foundation could play in ensuring that MediaWiki exposes the right set of interfaces for deep integration with configuration management and

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 October 2013 14:53, Mark A. Hershberger m...@nichework.com wrote: We already have very good relationships with Debian and Fedora packagers. There isn't any need for us to do this work. I worked with the Debian packagers to get the LTS in their latest stable release[1] and Fedora has

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-02 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 10/02/2013 10:14 AM, David Gerard wrote: Instead, I would suggest submitting patches to the existing packages or joining the mediawiki-distributors mailing list and talking about how you think the packages could be improved. I'm assuming Thorsten doesn't scale, and a PPA with releases

Re: [Wikitech-l] Officially supported MediaWiki hosting service?

2013-10-02 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 10/01/2013 04:34 PM, Ori Livneh wrote: I don't like this every time you have a new idea, God kills a Community member approach. Ori, I like your work on MediaWiki-Vagrant -- surely a new idea! -- but I'd also like you to consider the needs of people who don't have access to the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Officially supported MediaWiki hosting service?

2013-10-02 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@nichework.com wrote: The approach taken on Scribunto, though -- forking out a bundled lua binary -- works even on shared hosting. I've even managed to get it working on GoDaddy's notorious hosting. Works on *some* shared hosting. We

Re: [Wikitech-l] Officially supported MediaWiki hosting service?

2013-10-02 Thread Fred Bauder
On 10/01/2013 02:53 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: Ideally, my vision of a general-purpose wiki hosting service would provide options that orgs like Wikia generally don't. If there is an effort to work with hosting providers, I would suggest finding a way to work with a large number of providers

Re: [Wikitech-l] Officially supported MediaWiki hosting service?

2013-10-02 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 10/02/2013 11:16 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@nichework.com wrote: The approach taken on Scribunto, though -- forking out a bundled lua binary -- works even on shared hosting. I've even managed to get it working on GoDaddy's

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I think the issue isn't really improve the existing packages so much as package more extensions with useful configurations so that, for example, I could install mediawiki-visualeditor and have mediawiki-parsoid installed and properly configured as well.​ But point taken: this (part of the)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Case Insensitive Database Lookups

2013-10-02 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Sean Pringle sprin...@wikimedia.org wrote: However I'd like to hear the historical reasons why MW does everything binary too. a) Lack of any native UTF-8 support at all before MySQL 4.1 b) Lack of complete native UTF-8 support until MySQL 5.5.something

Re: [Wikitech-l] IRC meeting for RFC review

2013-10-02 Thread Bryan Davis
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com wrote: Are any logs available? I don't know of any official channel log, but the etherpad [0] has some updates. [0] http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/RFC%20review -- Bryan Davis Wikimedia Foundation

[Wikitech-l] GSoC 2013 Summary: jQuery.IME extensions for Firefox and Chrome

2013-10-02 Thread Praveen Singh
Hi everyone, I have been working on the project jQuery.IME extensions for Firefox and Chrome as a part of Google Summer of Code 2013 that concluded recently. Both Chrome and Firefox extensions were reviewed and published in their respective extension repositories. Please go ahead and download

Re: [Wikitech-l] Officially supported MediaWiki hosting service?

2013-10-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
One intermediate position might be for WMF to distribute virtual machine images which can easily be installed on any one of a number of different hosting services. OpenStack/Glance appears to be one such system, although ops probably knows better. The current efforts with puppet and vagrant are

[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia engineering report, September 2013

2013-10-02 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, The report covering Wikimedia engineering activities in September 2013 is now available. Wiki version: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2013/September Blog version: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/10/02/engineering-report-september-2013/ We're also proposing a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Real data on hosting providers

2013-10-02 Thread Gabriel Wicke
On 10/02/2013 06:42 AM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: But now we have REAL data on the sorts of hosting people use to run their wikis. Yesterday, I went to Jamie of WikiApiary and talked to him about ways to get this sort of data from his bot. The first idea I had was the reverse DNS for the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Real data on hosting providers

2013-10-02 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 10/02/2013 03:09 PM, Gabriel Wicke wrote: A VPS owner would often set the reverse DNS to match their own domain, so I think reverse DNS data is not very useful for gauging the relative use of shared vs. VPS hosting. But the VPS would all be on the same net block. Jamie has added that to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Officially supported MediaWiki hosting service?

2013-10-02 Thread George Herbert
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Chris McMahon cmcma...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:57 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: Foundation could play in ensuring that MediaWiki exposes the

[Wikitech-l] Mediawiki - suddenly slow - suddenly fast - Apache error 408

2013-10-02 Thread Pierre Labrecque
Hello, I'm lost. L Since 2 weeks, I experience some problems : the site runs very fast, and suddenly runs slow for a couple of seconds (let say 15/20 seconds to load a single page), then back to normal. When the problem occurs, I see this in the Apache access.log (see line with error 408.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Officially supported MediaWiki hosting service?

2013-10-02 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 12:48 PM, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.orgwrote: One intermediate position might be for WMF to distribute virtual machine images I'd rather provide cloud-init scripts with instructions on how

Re: [Wikitech-l] FOSDEM update

2013-10-02 Thread Quim Gil
On 09/25/2013 10:39 AM, Quim Gil wrote: Hi, about FOSDEM - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/FOSDEM Brussels / 1 2 February 2014 On 1 Oct we will know whether our proposal for a Wiki DevRoom has been accepted or not. And the answer is... YES, ACCEPTED! We will receive instructions from

Re: [Wikitech-l] FOSDEM update

2013-10-02 Thread Tomasz Finc
Excellent. This is a great opportunity for us. Thanks for shepherding this Quim. On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 09/25/2013 10:39 AM, Quim Gil wrote: Hi, about FOSDEM - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/FOSDEM Brussels / 1 2 February 2014 On 1 Oct

Re: [Wikitech-l] Officially supported MediaWiki hosting service?

2013-10-02 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 12:48 PM, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.orgwrote: One intermediate position might be for WMF to distribute virtual

[Wikitech-l] CentralNotice Proxy RfC

2013-10-02 Thread Matthew Walker
I updated the CentralNotice banner proxy RfC [1] to reflect what was discussed last night. If it all looks good, I've attempted to evaluate some of the pros / cons of using Node vs Varnish as the banner server -- and I'd like some feedback on what technology I should use. [1]

Re: [Wikitech-l] Officially supported MediaWiki hosting service?

2013-10-02 Thread phoebe ayers
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: Question for the group: Would an officially supported general-purpose MediaWiki hosting service be useful to people who would like to run wikis, but don't have the time, expertise, or resources to maintain their own

Re: [Wikitech-l] Officially supported MediaWiki hosting service?

2013-10-02 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 10/02/2013 07:17 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: I have needed such a thing for wikis for small non-profits/library associations that I've been involved with, where I didn't want to host it myself (because I didn't want to take personal responsibility for the site of an organization that I might

Re: [Wikitech-l] Officially supported MediaWiki hosting service?

2013-10-02 Thread Arcane 21
I have a wiki there, and Orain is actually pretty decent as wiki farms go, though they could probably use more regular staff members. It is non profit for the forseeable future, though ads have been discussed only as in opt in option for those that want them. Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 21:33:35