[Wikitech-l] H.264

2013-10-31 Thread Magnus Manske
http://gigaom.com/2013/10/30/mozilla-will-add-h-264-to-firefox-as-cisco-makes-eleventh-hour-push-for-webrtcs-future/?t=t So, should we support this format now? (not advocating, just curious) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Design] Are external link icons useful

2013-10-31 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Brion's email reminds me that we sometimes use an icon resembling Adobe's A to identify PDF, which is very ugly for an open standard. FSFE's initiative welcomes design help to make their icons better, their maintainer told me: http://pdfreaders.org/graphics.en.html Also, the Internet Archive

Re: [Wikitech-l] H.264

2013-10-31 Thread Brion Vibber
We're churning through some internal discussion with legal on if and how how this affects our potential options... Note that the specific thing announced there doesn't include a licensed AAC *audio* codec which would be required to generate audio and video+audio files playable on current browsers

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [wikimedia #6138] etherpad.wikimedia.org downtime due to upgrade

2013-10-31 Thread Alexandros Kosiaris
FYI, -- Forwarded message -- From: Core operations via RT core-...@rt.wikimedia.org Date: Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:18 PM Subject: [wikimedia #6138] etherpad.wikimedia.org downtime due to upgrade To: akosia...@wikimedia.org Scheduling a downtime for etherpad.wikimedia.org on

Re: [Wikitech-l] H.264

2013-10-31 Thread Lukas Benedix
Maybe you want to read this article: http://xiphmont.livejournal.com/61927.html lbenedix m Do 31.10.2013 10:26, schrieb Brion Vibber: We're churning through some internal discussion with legal on if and how how this affects our potential options... Note that the specific thing announced

Re: [Wikitech-l] Page title length

2013-10-31 Thread Daniel Werner
This is not an exact answer to your question, but rather a simple and powerful alternative. If you are thinking about using Semantic-MediaWiki (which would be very applicable for a Wiki about resources), you should have a look at: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SemanticTitle The

[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Bugzilla Guided Bug Entry Form available

2013-10-31 Thread Andre Klapper
Since last Friday, Bugzilla has a guided bug entry form. Together with documentation at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug (which needs an update now) this should make it easier for users to create better bug reports. You can link to and access the guided form by attaching

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Refactoring the Title object

2013-10-31 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 30.10.2013 18:32, schrieb Martijn Hoekstra: Rebase early, rebase often. At some point integration must take place. Not using a separate branch won't help you there. Anyone working on anything involving the title object that hasn't been merged yet will hate to rebase whenever you'll have

Re: [Wikitech-l] H.264

2013-10-31 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 31/10/13 10:10, Magnus Manske a écrit : http://gigaom.com/2013/10/30/mozilla-will-add-h-264-to-firefox-as-cisco-makes-eleventh-hour-push-for-webrtcs-future/?t=t So, should we support this format now? (not advocating, just curious) Can we get a summary? -- Antoine hashar Musso

Re: [Wikitech-l] H.264

2013-10-31 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 31/10/13 10:10, Magnus Manske a écrit : http://gigaom.com/2013/10/30/mozilla-will-add-h-264-to-firefox-as-cisco-makes-eleventh-hour-push-for-webrtcs-future/?t=t So, should we support this format now? (not advocating,

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Refactoring the Title object

2013-10-31 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 31.10.2013 14:52, schrieb Daniel Kinzler: The idea is to *not* actually refactor the Title class, but to introduce a light weight alternative, TitleValue. We can then replace usage of Title with usage of TitleObject bit by bit. That was meant to be replace Title with TitleValue, of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Deployment postmortem

2013-10-31 Thread Adam Baso
Everyone, I apologize for the bug. I'll look for ways to guard better against this risk in the future, which will be important as we look to expand coverage of Wikipedia Zero to sister projects and the desktop form factor. Thanks to everyone for resolving the issue so quickly. You guys rule.

Re: [Wikitech-l] H.264

2013-10-31 Thread Greg Grossmeier
quote name=Brad Jorsch (Anomie) date=2013-10-31 time=10:04:56 -0400 On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 31/10/13 10:10, Magnus Manske a écrit :

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Fwd: Deployment postmortem

2013-10-31 Thread Matthew Walker
With all my prep work completed ahead of time; I can get a CentralNotice LD out to both production branches in about 15 minutes (waiting on the Jenkins merge is the longest bit of that.) I watch both the fatal and exception logs whilst doing it and then quickly run through the patches to make sure

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Fwd: Deployment postmortem

2013-10-31 Thread Greg Grossmeier
quote name=Matthew Walker date=2013-10-31 time=10:08:05 -0700 I've felt pressured in the LD to get stuff out and myself out of the way when there have been more than two people in it -- which does correlate with my 15 minute estimate for the fastest I feel I can safely deploy. Thanks for that

[Wikitech-l] Architecture Summit: participants confirmed

2013-10-31 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_Summit_2014#Participants has been updated in order to reflect the current list of participants confirmed. We are in touch with a few contributors from areas currently underrepresented, and it is possible that some people are still added to

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Deployment postmortem

2013-10-31 Thread Chris McMahon
One thing that impressed me when I started working with WMF is that reverting in production is as safe as I have ever seen any production environment. In the 20 months or so I've been here, I think I only remember one change that left behind corrupt data in prod, and that change was made by a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Deployment postmortem

2013-10-31 Thread aude
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Yuri Astrakhan yastrak...@wikimedia.orgwrote: == Background == ZeroRatedMobileAccess has always depended on MobileFrontend and used it liberally, including calls to its classes. However, it was done in hooks called by MF so Zero simply stopped working in

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] [WikimediaMobile] Fwd: Deployment postmortem

2013-10-31 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Max Semenik mseme...@wikimedia.org wrote: 1) Move them at least 1 hour earlier so that we never end in the situation when someone deploys a change and goes home. With people in all different timezones, I don't think never having someone deploy then go home is

[Wikitech-l] FOSS OPW status update

2013-10-31 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, we are still late but catching up at FOSS Outreach Program for Women: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_for_Women/Round_7 We have several project ideas listed, most of them coming from Wikimedia Foundation teams. We are still counting on more proposals, from the Flow,

[Wikitech-l] Secure and split

2013-10-31 Thread MZMcBride
Happy Tim Starling Day! :-) It seems this year is the tenth anniversary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tim_Starling_Day. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Secure and split

2013-10-31 Thread Danese Cooper
Except it was yesterday in Oz, right? Happy Tim Day, Mr. Starling...and belated congrats on that second daughter too! 3 D On Oct 31, 2013, at 2:52 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Happy Tim Starling Day! :-) It seems this year is the tenth anniversary:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Secure and split

2013-10-31 Thread K. Peachey
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote: Except it was yesterday in Oz, right? Yes Happy Tim Day, Mr. Starling...and belated congrats on that second daughter too! 3 D ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Secure and split

2013-10-31 Thread MZMcBride
K. Peachey wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote: Except it was yesterday in Oz, right? Yes Every holiday is about 48 hours on the Internet. Or something. ;-) As it's still Tim Day here, I just wanted to add that I'm grateful for the work Tim did this past

Re: [Wikitech-l] Secure and split

2013-10-31 Thread Brion Vibber
Hear, hear! There's a cake in the office, hopefully someone can upload him a piece. :D -- brion On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:52 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Happy Tim Starling Day! :-) It seems this year is the tenth anniversary:

[Wikitech-l] Algorithm for assessing quality of articles

2013-10-31 Thread Juliusz Gonera
I haven't read the paper itself, but just in case someone has a moment and is interested: http://www.technologyreview.com/view/520946/can-automated-editorial-tools-help-wikipedias-declining-volunteer-workforce/ -- Juliusz ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Secure and split

2013-10-31 Thread Tyler Romeo
Yay! I've been waiting for this day and almost forgot about it. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hear, hear! There's a cake in the office, hopefully someone