Hi! I would like to discuss an idea.
In MediaWiki is not very convenient to docomputingusing the syntax of
the wiki. We have to use several extensions like Variables, Arrays,
ParserFunctions and others. If there are a lot of computing, such as
data processing received from Semantic MediaWiki,
The bit except you can't really, and if you do it'll get randomly
revoked is false or unproven. Is there any example of rejected or
revoked global IP-exempt valid application in the last few months in
which we had the policy?
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/NOP
Note that every single Tor user
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 8:29 AM, vaibhav gupta coolvaibhav1...@gmail.comwrote:
I am currently a 3rd year student and i want to contribute to Wikimedia.
Please guide me how to get started asap.
Dan Garry posted a really good reply to a similar question recently:
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 8:37 AM, indianay...@gmail.com wrote:
I am very interested in Wikimedia technologies and I want to ask one thing
that how ca I contribute to it…
I need to start as soon as possible but lacks some guidance but with all u
guys I can achieve anything
Dan Garry posted a
How does this compare to the PECL runkit extension? Also have you
benchmarked it against Scribunto? Because Scribunto does kind of the same
exact thing except just with a different programming language (and
Scribunto uses a native interpreter rather than one written in PHP).
*-- *
*Tyler Romeo*
Eugene wrote:
... OS support if not mature yet, especially for ARMv8 (64 bit).
Does someone have an exhaustive list of packages which we depend on
for production but aren't available as arm binaries yet? We could try
to build those.
As for development, I understand that Oracle's JDK isn't on
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 05:47:12PM +0800, James Salsman wrote:
Can someone more familiar with the Foundation's server infrastructure
needs than I please create a page somewhere with a checklist of
packages, modules, tools, etc., which need to be on arm but aren't
yet?
Before we do that, we
Пн. 13 янв. 2014 12:59:18 пользователь Pavel Astakhov (pastak...@yandex.ru)
написал:
Hi! I would like to discuss an idea.
In MediaWiki is not very convenient to docomputingusing the syntax of
the wiki. We have to use several extensions like Variables, Arrays,
ParserFunctions and others. If
From: Dmitriy Sintsov questpc at rambler.ru
Subject: Re: Is Foxway a right way?
http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=1389610306.562859.4565.53906%40mail.rambler.ru
Newsgroups: gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical
Пн. 13 янв. 2014 16:12:29 пользователь Pavel Astakhov (pastak...@yandex.ru)
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From: Dmitriy Sintsov questpc at rambler.ru
Subject: Re: Is Foxway a right way?
http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=1389610306.562859.4565.53906%40mail.rambler.ru
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i need some help re: a difference between commons beta cluster and production.
gwtoolset can download images from http://www.europeana1914-1918.eu
without issue on beta, but not on production. the domain has been
whitelisted on both servers in the wgCopyUploadsDomains array.
i have created a
On Jan 13, 2014 9:41 AM, dan entous dan.entous.wikime...@gmail.com
wrote:
i need some help re: a difference between commons beta cluster and
production.
gwtoolset can download images from http://www.europeana1914-1918.eu
without issue on beta, but not on production. the domain has been
I implemented something similar before Scribunto was stable enough
and deployed
My idea is different
I know. But the interpreting probably is too slow for huge-load wikis.
Do not allow Foxway extension to deceive you.
It is a cheap intermediary, between functions of PHP and extensions
Correct. All MW http requests are proxied in production. Ones headed
externally are subject to a whitelist.
Not in front of my computer so I can't remember where...
-Chad
On Jan 13, 2014 5:54 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 13, 2014 9:41 AM, dan entous
Hello Vaibhav, welcome!
On 01/12/2014 11:29 PM, vaibhav gupta wrote:
Hello,
I am currently a 3rd year student and i want to contribute to Wikimedia.
Please guide me how to get started asap.
Please have a look to
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Starter_kit
It is a young page created with the
On 13.01.2014 18:17, Pavel Astakhov wrote:
I implemented something similar before Scribunto was stable enough
and deployed
My idea is different
I know. But the interpreting probably is too slow for huge-load wikis.
Do not allow Foxway extension to deceive you.
It is a cheap intermediary,
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Gryllida gryll...@fastmail.fm wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014, at 15:29, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
What freenode does is not functionally useful for Tor users. In my
first hand experience it manages to enable abusive activity while
simultaneously eliminating Tor's
13.01.2014 22:04, Dmitriy Sintsov пишет:
... exploit the wiki via calling extensions directly. ...
There are no calling extensions directly. Never.
I see that my idea is hard to understand.
I will try to explain everything in detail with examples.
Thank you for the discussion
On 01/13/2014 11:32 AM, Zack Weinberg wrote:
Assume a person under continual surveillance.
If they have to reveal their true IP address to Wikipedia in order to
register their editor account, the adversary will learn it as well,
and can then attribute all subsequent edits by that handle to
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote:
On 01/13/2014 11:32 AM, Zack Weinberg wrote:
Assume a person under continual surveillance.
If they have to reveal their true IP address to Wikipedia in order to
register their editor account, the adversary will learn
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 13, 2014 5:54 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote:
Total guess, quite likely wrong: dont outbound http requests on cluster go
through a proxy? Perhaps that proxy also has a whitelist.
Correct. All MW http
On 2014-01-13 6:17 AM, Pavel Astakhov wrote:
... Lua VM also was a bit faster than both PHP and Python some year ago.
I know this, but If we rewrite MediaWiki in LUA, it will not work faster.
Actually, not to nitpick... ok, no, yeah I'm going to nitpick.
Rewriting MediaWiki in any well accepted
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Zack Weinberg za...@cmu.edu wrote:
To satisfy Applebaum's request, there needs to be a mechanism whereby
someone can edit even if *all of their communications with Wikipedia,
including the initial contact* are coming over Tor or equivalent.
Blinded,
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:43:53AM -0500, Marc A. Pelletier wrote:
If you start with that assumption, then it is unreasonable to assume
that the endpoints aren't /also/ compromised or under surveillance.
Editing Wikipedia is an inherently public action, if your security or
life is in danger
On 01/13/2014 12:15 PM, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
What do you mean by endpoints?
The computer from which the edit is made is the salient one. Or, indeed
even visual observation of the person of interest coupled with rubber
hose crypto.
The scenario I am trying to explain is that which starts
quote name=Marc A. Pelletier date=2014-01-13 time=12:27:11 -0500
The scenario I am trying to explain is that which starts from the given
premise: Assume a person under continual surveillance. TOR offers no
protection against that scenario, privacy pundits notwithstanding.
Sure, and even more
13.01.2014 23:06, Daniel Friesen wrote:
On 2014-01-13 6:17 AM, Pavel Astakhov wrote:
... Lua VM also was a bit faster than both PHP and Python some year ago.
I know this, but If we rewrite MediaWiki in LUA, it will not work faster.
Actually, not to nitpick... ok, no, yeah I'm going to
On 01/13/2014 12:55 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote:
That's a strawman (both your statement and mine).
That wasn't /my/ statement, I was just pointing out its straw nature
myself. :-) My point was exactly that trying to use emotional
statements as rationale for change won't lead to anything good.
As long as I know, the solution nemo pointed out works perfectly on Persian
Wikipedia which deals with Iranian internet censorship on daily bases. We
have people using open proxies or Tor to connect and it is doing well with
IP block exemption. The actual number of users using this beside admins (
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com
wrote:
Actually, not to nitpick... ok, no, yeah I'm going to nitpick.
Rewriting MediaWiki in any well accepted programming language besides
PHP would have an extremely good chance of making it faster (well
perhaps
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for writing. Previous discussions aboit 3d have usually been about
x3d and cml, but i think most people just want a 3d format supported, and
dont care which one (to speak from a wikimedia as opposed to a
Hi!
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Inderpreet Singh indrp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for writing. Previous discussions aboit 3d have usually been about
x3d and cml, but i think most people just want a 3d format
TLDR: I seek fellow developers with whom to collaborate on creating the
largest and most inclusive wiki in the world, Inclupedia.
http://meta.inclumedia.org/wiki/Inclupedia
Inclupedia is a project to make available, on an
OpenEdithttp://wikiindex.org/Category:OpenEditwiki, pages deleted
from
People sometimes ask, Hasn't this already been done? It would seem that
it hasn't, which is why so much of the implementing code has to be
designed
and developed rather than borrowed or reverse-engineered. In some ways,
the
closest project to this one may have been been the various proprietary
I started that thread.
1. Please refer to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59146
Enabling also edit access to Wikipedia via TOR which much better
allows tracking of this issue towards to find a practical solution.
2. Recommended reading:
Peter Wayner Disappearing Cryptography
The basic requirements for a 3d viewer extension (somewhat pulled out
of my
hat, so some people might have different requitements)
*Secure (obviously very important. No one wants xss in a media viewer.
This
also includes other things like not making network fetches on the server
(this
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, at 3:32, Zack Weinberg wrote:
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Gryllida gryll...@fastmail.fm wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014, at 15:29, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
What freenode does is not functionally useful for Tor users. In my
first hand experience it manages to enable
Hello everyone,
The MediaWiki homepage redesign project evolved and Design Document [1] is
being built.
This time we really need community involvement to help us decide which
improvements will be included and implemented in the new layout.
Thank you.
Best regards,
[1]
Just create a page editable for everybody (as user talk pages are editable
for blocked users):
* [[Wikipedia:Edit suggestions by TOR users]]
Redirect to it with a notice when a TOR node click on edit tabs. Later, any
user can add the suggestions to the articles, if they are OK.
Anyway, TOR
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Bryan Davis bd...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 13, 2014 5:54 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote:
Total guess, quite likely wrong: dont outbound http requests on cluster go
through a
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Gryllida gryll...@fastmail.fm wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, at 3:32, Zack Weinberg wrote:
I rather think it does. Assume a person under continual surveillance.
If they have to reveal their true IP address to Wikipedia in order to
register their editor account,
On 01/13/2014 04:47 AM, James Salsman wrote:
Can someone more familiar with the Foundation's server infrastructure
needs than I please create a page somewhere with a checklist of
packages, modules, tools, etc., which need to be on arm but aren't
yet? Jasper mentioned that we need virtualization
On 13/01/14 21:14, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
We've thought a bit about it in the past, but couldn't come up with a
use case that made technical or financial sense. We have dozens of x86
servers e.g. just for MediaWiki; having thousands of ARM servers for
the same purpose instead doesn't sound
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
In fact, it would slow down individual requests by a factor of 7,
judging by the benchmarks of Calxeda and Xeon CPUs at
http://www.eembc.org/coremark/index.php
So instead of a 10s parse time, you would have 70s.
Tomorrow Tuesday the Engineering Community team is doing its monthly IRC
meeting in #wikimedia-meetbot at 17:00 UTC. Propose topics and find the
logs at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Engineering_Community_Team/Meetings#2014-01-14
In that page you can also find previous meeting minutes and a
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote:
Id say that http://getwiki.net/-GetWiki:1.0 was similar to your superset
concept (minus the merging part)
Yeah, per WikiIndex http://wikiindex.org/GetWiki, Instead of red links,
GetWiki uses green links to point to articles
On 14/01/14 10:55, George Herbert wrote:
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
In fact, it would slow down individual requests by a factor of 7,
judging by the benchmarks of Calxeda and Xeon CPUs at
http://www.eembc.org/coremark/index.php
So instead of
On 01/13/2014 12:06 PM, Brena Monteiro wrote:
The MediaWiki homepage redesign project evolved and Design Document [1] is
being built.
This time we really need community involvement to help us decide which
improvements will be included and implemented in the new layout.
Your feedback is
Hi!
I think will be good idea to try to get access to real hardware.
For example, Boston (http://www.boston.co.uk) produces Calxeda-based
servers and well as HP has experimental Calxeda and X-Gene based
cartridges for Moonshot servers (http://www.hp.com/moonshot).
Both provide remote access to
I would like to announce the release of MediaWiki 1.22.1, 1.21.4 and
1.19.10.
These releases fix a number of security related bugs that could affect
users of
MediaWiki. In addition, MediaWiki 1.22.1 is a maintenance release. It fixes
several bugs. You can consult the RELEASE-NOTES-1.22 file for
On Jan 14, 2014 2:47 AM, Eugene Zelenko eugene.zele...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
I think will be good idea to try to get access to real hardware.
For example, Boston (http://www.boston.co.uk) produces Calxeda-based
servers and well as HP has experimental Calxeda and X-Gene based
cartridges for
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