Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

2014-02-04 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Gryllida gryll...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2014, at 0:02, rupert THURNER wrote: for the password policy: display a strength indicator is great. anything more? i would say just leave it to the user. rupert. THANK YOU. My thoughts exactly. :-)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

2014-02-04 Thread Petr Bena
fde#@%62jtgjsl$#5kgsgjgseojgro@#$%SEGsgesjojahREAGHkerahj23YJ34pwyjw3$#^WrejgshSH Time Required to Exhaustively Search this Password's Space: Online Attack Scenario: 5.04 thousand trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

2014-02-04 Thread Vito
A three/four colour lamp + it might be forced in approx X days sounds great! Vito Inviato con AquaMail per Android http://www.aqua-mail.com Il 04 febbraio 2014 10:19:12 Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com ha scritto: On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Gryllida gryll...@fastmail.fm

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

2014-02-04 Thread Željko Filipin
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: fde#@%62jtgjsl$#5kgsgjgseojgro@ #$%SEGsgesjojahREAGHkerahj23YJ34pwyjw3$#^WrejgshSH (...) Now just remember that password. All my passwords look like that and there is no need to remember them. You can use a password

[Wikitech-l] Timeline Generator for mediawiki

2014-02-04 Thread Amanpreet Singh
Hi everyone, I recently came across a mentorship project at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Provide_a_way_to_create_interactive_2D.2F3D_timelines_and_infographics_e.g._Java_applets.2C_AJAX.2C_Flash After having discussion on this topic with some people, I want

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

2014-02-04 Thread Petr Bena
To be honest one of things I liked most on wikipedia over other sites, was no password policy whatsoever. I hope we never get into such a creepy state like oracle website which requires so complicated password that I always immediately forget it... On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Petr Bena

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

2014-02-04 Thread Petr Bena
hacking into password manager might be easier than hacking into a human brain :P On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Željko Filipin zfili...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: fde#@%62jtgjsl$#5kgsgjgseojgro@

Re: [Wikitech-l] TitleValue

2014-02-04 Thread Nikolas Everett
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Daniel Kinzler dan...@brightbyte.dewrote: Am 24.01.2014 14:44, schrieb Brad Jorsch (Anomie): It looks to me like the existing patch *already is* getting too far into the Javaification, with it's proliferation of classes with single methods that need to be

Re: [Wikitech-l] TitleValue

2014-02-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Thanks for your input Nik! I'll add my 2¢ below. Would be great if others could chime in. I have just pushed a new version of the path, please have a look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/106517/ Am 04.02.2014 16:31, schrieb Nikolas Everett: * Should linking, parsing, and formatting live

[Wikitech-l] Google Summer of Code 2014 starts NOW

2014-02-04 Thread Quim Gil
Google Summer of Code 2014 has started. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014 (Thank you Raylton for creating this page) The first step is to apply as Wikimedia organization before February 14. I can do this, with your help: * We need another org admin ready to work. I was

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

2014-02-04 Thread Steven Walling
On Tuesday, February 4, 2014, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: To be honest one of things I liked most on wikipedia over other sites, was no password policy whatsoever. I hope we never get into such a creepy state like oracle website which requires so complicated password that I always

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

2014-02-04 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote: On Tuesday, February 4, 2014, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: To be honest one of things I liked most on wikipedia over other sites, was no password policy whatsoever. I hope we never get into such a creepy

[Wikitech-l] Sphinx Documentation CI Build Task

2014-02-04 Thread Matthew Walker
With some help from Hashar and Marktraceur I added some new CI build jobs for some fundraising stuff -- I noticed we had a job that indicates it'll build sphinx documentation so I figured I might as well add that and see where I get. ... Which is not very far -- the build fails with *19:11:58* +

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sphinx Documentation CI Build Task

2014-02-04 Thread Matthew Walker
I actually answered my own question mostly. Sartoris seems to be the only project with that job enabled; and it's using python's setuptools to run sphinx. Given that my stuff is predominantly PHP and I was just going to use sphinx for nice looking documentation that's not wiki based; I'm not

[Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Etiquette

2014-02-04 Thread Andre Klapper
Today I removed the This page is currently a draft banner on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Bugzilla_etiquette as the comment rate on its Discussion page has been very low recently, hence I assume consensus has been found. The page is the outcome of lots of discussion among

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Etiquette

2014-02-04 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/04/2014 07:05 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: Today I removed the This page is currently a draft banner on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Bugzilla_etiquette as the comment rate on its Discussion page has been very low recently, hence I assume consensus has been found. The

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

2014-02-04 Thread MZMcBride
Steven Walling wrote: I fully agree, and this is why the RFC is very clear that the *only immediate change proposed* is an increase in required minimum length from one character to six. It does not suggest that we require more complex character types, such as mixed upper/lower case, numbers,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

2014-02-04 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:20 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Ultimately, account security is a user's prerogative. [...] Banks and even e-mail providers have reason to implement stricter authentication requirements. This is conflicting logic. If it is the user's job to enforce their