Re: [Wikitech-l] Git for idiots

2015-11-12 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 12/11/2015 03:25, S Page a écrit : > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:50 AM, Petr Bena wrote: > >> > Ok, I will try to merge all useful stuff in here: >> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git_for_dummies >> > > The problem is these are matters of widely-varying taste and

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

2015-11-12 Thread Ricordisamoa
Yes. Yes. YES! Il 12/11/2015 03:11, Krinkle ha scritto: Hey all, Starting in January 2016, MediaWiki will end JavaScript support for Microsoft Internet Explorer 8. This raises the cut-off up from MSIE 7. Users with this browser will still be able to browse, edit, and otherwise contribute to

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: November Lightning Talks

2015-11-12 Thread Kevin Leduc
-- Forwarded message -- From: Kevin Leduc Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:56 PM Subject: November Lightning Talks To: "Staff (All)" , Engineering list < engineer...@lists.wikimedia.org> Hi, November’s Lightning Talks are in less than

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

2015-11-12 Thread Max Semenik
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Paladox wrote: > Why not start informing ie8 users now so that it gives them plenty of time > to update. I would recommend them switching to chrome or firefox if on > windows xp since ie9 is not available on windows xp. Because

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

2015-11-12 Thread James Forrester
On 12 November 2015 at 10:50, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > Would it be worth running a CentralNotice banner in January specifically > for IE8 users to inform them of the change and encourage them to upgrade? > ​Given CN banners are shown with​ JavaScript (and we'd certainly not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-11-12 Thread Runa Bhattacharjee
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:58 AM, Marcin Cieslak wrote: > > > (How) are we going to meet this requirement? > > Hello, Specifics about this can be seen at: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation/Machine_Translation/Yandex#Summary_of_terms_of_Yandex_agreement Thanks

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git for idiots

2015-11-12 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Antoine Musso wrote: > On that last point, git-review 1.26 comes with a new option 'usepushurl' > which makes git-review reuse the origin repo and just set the push url > to the ssh:// url. The 'gerrit' remote will no more be needed. > > Ie

Re: [Wikitech-l] Closing wikibugs-l and mediawiki-commits firehoses?

2015-11-12 Thread Niklas Laxström
2015-11-13 4:22 GMT+02:00 Chad : > > Considering ~50% of subscribers weren't even using the list, and > we only have 130 remaining subscribers between the two, who would > be terribly upset at closing one or both of these lists? It would break my workflow of following

[Wikitech-l] Developer Relations Weekly News

2015-11-12 Thread Quim Gil
Original version: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Relations/Weekly_summary Help develop the next summary here ! Software[edit |

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

2015-11-12 Thread Paladox
Why not start informing ie8 users now so that it gives them plenty of time to update. I would recommend them switching to chrome or firefox if on windows xp since ie9 is not available on windows xp. On Thursday, 12 November 2015, 18:50, Ryan Kaldari wrote:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-11-12 Thread Marcin Cieslak
On 2015-11-11, Luis Villa wrote: > I haven't been directly involved in a while, but we were certainly not > paying Yandex last time I looked at the arrangement. Appropriate legal > steps were also taken to protect the licensing of the content, and > appropriate technical

[Wikitech-l] Closing wikibugs-l and mediawiki-commits firehoses?

2015-11-12 Thread Chad
All, I just finished auditing these two lists, and removed ~50% of their subscribers. Those removed were set to not receive e-mail...on an unarchived list...rendering their subscription pointless. Considering ~50% of subscribers weren't even using the list, and we only have 130 remaining

[Wikitech-l] Readership metrics for the week until November 8, 2015

2015-11-12 Thread Tilman Bayer
Hi all, here is the weekly look at our most important readership metrics (CCing Wikitech-l too this time). As laid out earlier , the main purpose is to raise awareness about how these are developing, call out the impact

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git for idiots

2015-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
This seems like we need to fork the instructions for tools lab -vs- others, as has been suggested. --scott On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Purodha Blissenbach < puro...@blissenbach.org> wrote: > On WikiMedia Tools Lab neither "git review -s" nor "git review -u" work in > my tools. They run

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git for idiots

2015-11-12 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Purodha Blissenbach wrote: > On WikiMedia Tools Lab neither "git review -s" nor "git > review -u" work in > my tools. They run endlessly until you abort then with a > keyboard interrupt. > That is annoying. > […] Then please file a bug report. When I run "git review

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

2015-11-12 Thread Isarra Yos
Perhaps I should clarify why this is a problem. In fully responsive skins, you generally have separate stylesheets for desktop, mobile, really big desktop, whatever in order to keep the CSS rules simple and not redundant (to avoid having mobile overriding desktop rules or visa versa, you just

Re: [Wikitech-l] [RFC] Balanced templates (was: [RFC] Hygienic templates)

2015-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
In this repost I forgot to mention that the phab task for `{{#balance}}` is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114445. I copied the excellent points made by Gergo into a comment there. --scott ​ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] [RFC] Balanced templates (was: [RFC] Hygienic templates)

2015-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Gergo Tisza wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:40 PM, C. Scott Ananian > wrote: > > >2. `{{#balance:inline}}` would only allow inline (i.e. phrasing) > content > >and generate an error if a >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git for idiots

2015-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Hashar: I think your criticisms of git-review might be out of date. On my debian system, "sudo apt-get install git-review" was sufficient to install a version of git review which is adequate for all my needs (I have never noticed any of the "known issues" you mention). And "git review -s" is a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git for idiots

2015-11-12 Thread Purodha Blissenbach
On WikiMedia Tools Lab neither "git review -s" nor "git review -u" work in my tools. They run endlessly until you abort then with a keyboard interrupt. That is annoying. Purodha On 12.11.2015 17:35, C. Scott Ananian wrote: Hashar: I think your criticisms of git-review might be out of date.

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

2015-11-12 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Would it be worth running a CentralNotice banner in January specifically for IE8 users to inform them of the change and encourage them to upgrade? On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Krinkle wrote: > Hey all, > > Starting in January 2016, MediaWiki will end JavaScript