[Wikitech-l] Who moved my cheese?

be the LEAST confusing for engineers who don't care about your refactoring, not the MOST confusing. — Andrew Garrett ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who moved my cheese?

to at least leave a note telling me where it's been moved to. The point of removing technical debt is that it improves engineer productivity – if you make engineers spend hours reading mailing lists and tracing bugs then those benefits dissipate. — Andrew Garrett

Re: [Wikitech-l] AbuseFilter error codes and MobileFrontend

matched box in filter config a given API response is referring to. That would be much more reliable than looking for abusefilter-warning- prefix which can be omitted by admins setting up the warning. I'll take a look at adding this. — Andrew Garrett

Re: [Wikitech-l] AbuseFilter error codes and MobileFrontend

Juliusz Gonera wrote: On 09/23/2013 06:48 PM, Andrew Garrett wrote: You should know about this change[1], which corrects the error messages to be more in line with the general case, as well as adding some metadata. It's not been approved yet, so I'm nudging a few reviewers. You can also

Re: [Wikitech-l] AbuseFilter error codes and MobileFrontend

Apologies, I always forget to hit Reply All. Original Message Subject:Re: AbuseFilter error codes and MobileFrontend Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 10:11:28 +1000 From: Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org To: Juliusz Gonera jgon...@wikimedia.org Juliusz Gonera

Re: [Wikitech-l] Notification bubble system

-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Removing permissions for the History page

the system. I don't think there's really a good way to actually prevent access to old revisions. We already have per-revision access restrictions. He can look at patching Revision::userCan. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Removing permissions for the History page

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Meghan Mahar meghan.ma...@appian.com wrote: Unfortunately for your case, read access to the wiki grants

Re: [Wikitech-l] Serious alternatives to Gerrit

on gerrit because it's the least-bad option. To show that it's no longer the least bad option, you need to find a product that is less bad. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit downtime this Friday

be shorter. Gerrit makes many mysql queries for some page requests; this will improve the latency of such pages. Additionally, the new db will have both slow and sample based query profiling in ishmael which should assist with further optimizations. I wish email had a like button. :-) -- Andrew

Re: [Wikitech-l] Date Formatting

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension Skeleton Program

/wikitech-l -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Announcement: Matt Walker joins Wikimedia as Fundraising Engineer

...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wmfall -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Suggestions for tasks for new contributors during hackathon

testing nicely: Speaking of QA, I'd love to participate in a test-writing-a-thon. Currently I have no idea how to write tests for my code. It would be awesome if I could learn that at Wikimania. —Andrew -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revoking +2 (Re: who can merge into core/master?)

-located organisations I can see something like has to buy a drink for the people who cleaned up after it working, but that doesn't really work in our organisation. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upcoming cultural heritage hackathon, autumn 2012 in Denmark

announcement. :-) -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Give create gerrit repo right to all WMF engineers

it was to work with SVN. The other story is gerrit, and how everything must now go through this bottleneck of new centralization. There's a conflict here, that needs to be sorted out. Does Linus Torvalds really use gerrit? WWLTD? :) -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTMLMultiSelectField as select multiple=multiple/

with an additional option here. Thanks for working on this! It'll be really handy. I'd definitely recommend using a parameter. —Andrew -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] WIkidata and Global Profile.

of implementing Global Profile, not a substitute for it. Either way, there would be engineering work to do. Just, a bit less of it this way around. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] some people complained already about my recent security alerts for PHP, OpenOffice, LibreOffice...

, etc). I definitely don't think that it's worth turning wikitech-l into a general security advisory list (there are specific lists for that) – and for that reason I don't think posting LibreOffice security bulletins is worth it. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] reasons for api json callback restrictions

can use regular JSON output format, and override the property setter to steal the data. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Ori Livneh

to see you onboard.* -- Alolita Sharma Director of Engineering Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moodbar for unregistered users?

settings in MoodBar.php to do this. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Informal English lessons for Wikimedia developers - May 5 or 6

repeat it. -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] @param documentation

actually, I'd be in favour of the status quo, which is to specify the type as part of the description. So instead of: @param $title Title Title for the method or @param Title $title Title for the method. We should use: @param $title Title object to use for the method. —Andrew -- Andrew Garrett

Re: [Wikitech-l] Policy for one ore more new database tables for extensions

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: I suggest that all extension tables should have at least the extension's name as common prefix. I think/hope that this is already common practice. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

the preference system, and my proposed patch for global preferences was part of that package. It was reverted, mostly to ease review load. I think that's pretty much what I did when I implemented it (I had a local flag to disable global preferences). -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr

Re: [Wikitech-l] Inactive sysops + improving security

it's justifiable to dismiss discussion about whether extra security is worth it. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upcoming cultural heritage hackathon, autumn 2012 in Denmark

of information to help, including links to a video of a tutorial and the API sandbox to practice and help with queries. If I would be helpful, then I will at that point be based in Maastricht, NL, and very happy to have an excuse to go to Denmark! -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki talk page posting

for the bot ** The account may be protected ** Talk page might be protected … give the bot account some global privilege that lets it do so. This. Nothing else will cover every case. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech

Re: [Wikitech-l] Save to userspace

. Have you seen http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Drafts ? -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Save to userspace

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Have you seen http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Drafts ? Sorry. http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/128/slowpoke_pokemon.gif -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to list pages with a parser extension in a corresponding category

? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] getting started with volunteer mediawiki development

showed Kaldari in person. For list reference, you can find it by searching for A brief introduction to MediaWiki extension development. —Andrew -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC 2012 project thoughts (Global User Preferences)

size for GSoC. —Andrew -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Revision tagging: use cases needed

to the infrastructure could allow abuse filter and other tags to coexist in the ecosystem. —Andrew -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Revision tagging: use cases needed

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 3:24 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Andrew Garrett wrote: I have some hopes that we could use change_tags for things other than AbuseFilter, but my understanding is that last time we tried this the community felt like the infrastructure was being intruded

Re: [Wikitech-l] getting started with volunteer mediawiki development

://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Gabriel Wicke

be found on #mediawiki as gwicke. Welcome back Gabriel! Great to have you on the Wikimedia Features team :-) Welcome back, Gabriel! It's so good to see more of the early MediaWikiers joining us. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Private-l] WMF Staff Announcement - Welcome Leslie Carr!

by to say hi to her. You will not miss her (hint - look out for a reddish pink   blue hair!). Thanks, CT Woo Welcome to Wikimedia! I'm looking forward to meeting you properly in February. —Andrew -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] New pattern for introducing wfDeprecated calls into core

to fit some new-fangled interface when you can just make the old interfaces a wrapper around the new ones. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Re quests about log system

, it's not a critical code path, and JSON is stable, well-defined and can be read by any client, whereas serialize is some scary PHP format that may or may not change without notice. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC end-notes - QueryCreator for Semantic MediaWiki extension

off to you for this, it's going to make my life a lot easier. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Protocol-relative URLs and HTTPS enabled on foundationwiki and commonswiki

in the SiteConfiguration arrays. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Asking for notes on a MediaWiki:Sidebar replacement

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:07 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: Can still use? AFAIK we have no maintenance script to do that currently He probably exports and imports MediaWiki:Sidebar -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping PHP 5.2 support

such as lambda functions. https://github.com/facebook/hiphop-php/commits/master/src/system/gen/php/classes/closure.cpp :-) -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extensions needing a maintainer

, and is definitely a worthwhile enterprise. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

with no rule sets set up — and would require the system administrator to define complex rule sets by themselves. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review process (was: Status of more regular code deployments)

associated revisions where people fix little things, revert, unrevert, and generally make things difficult to review and follow. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] About LQT - on hold?

://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiquidThreads/WMF_project_information/2011_backend_updates [2] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiquidThreads/WMF_project_information/Phase_1 -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Referent list of wikis?

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: Do we have a referent list of wikis? Although it would be good to have the list of *all* Wikimedia wikis, just the list of content projects wikis would be fine. What's a referent list? -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feedback on online communications around the Berlin hackathon (including remote participants)

that, while it was pretty easy to follow what was going on (and I have to give big props to the people who set it up like that), it wasn't too obvious how I could actually contribute to the discussion. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Shell requests backlog

, really don't like having bugs open and assigned to me that I can't do anything about without further information. It clutters my list of unresolved bugs. For a number of years, that list has been utterly useless to me because there are so many bugs that I don't know what to do with. -- Andrew

Re: [Wikitech-l] Shell requests backlog

/wiki/WS:BUGS The issue in question is not old bugs, but this one: MZMcBride: As long as people stop resolving old bugs as wontfix simply because they're old. I went through and re-opened quite a few bugs that were improperly marked as resolved over the weekend. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] search=steven+tyler gets Steven_tyler

of it a couple of years ago. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Merging WikiEditor into core

for MediaWiki. What do other people think? —Andrew -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merging WikiEditor into core

paths clean (if not awfully easy to follow), and simplifies merging extensions into core. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Supported Browser List

: Warren 1988 TheThe Great       Kate Craig     Grifters, TheThe   Myra           for Best Supporting Actress What does this mean? -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] getFullPath() deprecated

to a bazillion consumers of getPath():   http://toolserver.org/~krinkle/wikimedia-svn-search/view.php?id=193hash=d9a2231fbf52e1ba999cce53774ca2aa#F4 For clarification, he's talking about File::getFullPath() -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIWYG and parser plans (was What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?)

implemented in C — in fact, for 'a a a' repeated for a few MB, it's my (probably totally wrong) understanding that the PHP code runs in more or less constant time. It's the structures that appear in real articles that make the parser slow. —Andrew -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarr

Re: [Wikitech-l] Aquestion about templates parsing and caching

. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merging content from multiple wikis

and implement a more enhanced search against it instead? I've no experience performing a merge like this so expert advice would be appreciated! Have you tried dumping all of your wikis (see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/XML_dump#XML_dump), and importing all of the dumps into one wiki? -- Andrew

Re: [Wikitech-l] Liquid Threads

we prepare ourselves for a second round of pilots. Thanks very much, Andrew -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

field. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] CAPTCHA spell checker

already written, in phase3/resources/jquery/jquery.suggestions.js. Roan wrote it for the search box :-) -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] OT: Sunday in San Francisco

, and, if you feel up to it, you'd be welcome to join the celebrations. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Farewell JSMin, Hello JavaScriptDistiller!

with his periodic rants. This is really unnecessary and unhelpful on a public mailing list. I think we'd all be better off if snark like this were kept to private channels. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Re: [Mediawiki-l] vector components many blank lines

the performance advantages of removing blank lines. Is there any data on how significant the performance improvements are? -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Special:CommunityHiring

___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Backward compatibility guidelines

should be respected in all cases. I support this wording. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] FOSDEM 2011

be there this year, though I'm going under my own steam. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] New installer is here

and report any major breakages [2]. :D -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration between staff and volunteers: a two-way street

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com wrote: ... +4,294,967,295 see what you did to poor Roan, in this always be positive environment this is the only way he can write -1. Somebody's been confusing their signed and unsigned ints… -- Andrew Garrett http

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector extension naming

of my wikis when you separated the extension, and it will break everything again if you rename it. Let's get it into core as soon as possible. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector extension naming

this as an example of the weight carried by some the people who are in agreement? Nobody has made any objection, so there is no indication whatsoever that code reviewers are overruling anybody else. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki.org's [[MediaWiki:Newarticletext]]

I'm just confused on what this 'cost' supposedly is? Burned eyeballs and users scared away by some big ugly red hand. See Commons for big stop signs gone mad. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki.org's [[MediaWiki:Newarticletext]]

by delinking it, instead of an English Wikipedia style giant stop sign at the top of the page. It really hurts my eyes. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikitech-l] About wiki links: could they point to page id?

also erroneous to say that page IDs do not change. They change when a page is deleted or undeleted, and in a few other circumstances. Hope this helps clarify, Andrew -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Balancing MediaWiki Core/Extensions

), and it would make light work of merging extensions into core. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] [HTML5] Improving Commons upload interface

might be unnecessary. Though I might say that this really is a big picture thread, and it might not be constructive to argue with individual decisions at this time. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sentence-level editing

way, this is a really awesome first step towards a more friendly editing interface. Thanks for sharing. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikipedia is one of the slower sites on the web

be against the blob field. That's what he did. Read the query. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Showing bytes added/removed in each edit in View history and User contributions

it is), then it is probably way more useful when it's remotely accurate. Of course, if the inaccuracy doesn't matter, then perhaps we could just display random numbers next to the changes. That might be just as helpful, and will save us a lot of trouble. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us

[Wikitech-l] GIF Thumbnailing re-enabled

Hi all, I found the problem which caused GIF thumbnailing to thumbnail only the first frame of animated GIFs (we'd set $wgMaxAnimatedGifArea to 1 in our debugging before disabling it). GIF thumbnailing is now back on again. Let me know if there are any problems with it. -- Andrew Garrett http

Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for comments: New Message class

as the implementation, it doesn't behave as you would expect it to. My proposal allows the use of chained syntax without the awkward behaviour illustrated by Roan. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for comments: New Message class

or MessageInstance class to get the appropriate output. This is just off the top of my head, does anybody have any thoughts? -- Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] New committer

have contact information that I have not yet added to USERINFO. They have MediaWiki.org accounts not yet linked to their commit accounts. I'll get this sorted in the next few days. -- Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org http://werdn.us ___ Wikitech

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flattening a wikimedia category

without calling people ignorant (or implying it in the way a response is phrased). -- Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org http://werdn.us ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

[Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads almost ready for deployment

%20extensionscomponent=LiquidThreadsbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENED -- Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org http://werdn.us ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] mysql changes

or upgrading all the slaves in a hurry. Do we have at least one 5.1 slave per 5.1-mastered pool ? Domas said that each cluster was fully 5.1, meaning all masters and slaves are running 5.1. -- Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org http://werdn.us

[Wikitech-l] Update on single-revision deletion

://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20928 -- Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Downtime this morning

that the problem was not the software update, and a scap would exacerbate the issue. The problem resolved itself spontaneously. We need to fix things up so the scap script is less liable to push machines into swap :) -- Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org http://werdn.us

Re: [Wikitech-l] memento: time warp for mediawiki

it take? Can we point them to the missing bits? This got written up in New Scientist today, for those who are interested. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18158-timetravelling-browsers-navigate-the-webs-past.html?DCMP=OTC-rssnsref=online-news -- Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org http

Re: [Wikitech-l] memento: time warp for mediawiki

), but how do you deal with things like bookmarking, or sending a link to a particular version of the page to someone? These would become impossible, unless the server goes to the extra effort to return a redirect. I assume the solution to this would be a Vary: X-Accept-Datetime header. -- Andrew

Re: [Wikitech-l] More advanced watchlists

watchlists are ideas worth investigating. -- Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with Upload API

a library to do the HTTP request and you will save yourself a lot of problems. -- Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Webzzle

the knowledge web in 1-click just speak for themselves. -- Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org http://werdn.us/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki memory usage

',...);). This measure is rather coarse for debugging, but it might be the one number that matters most to the user. The results were reproducible. For future reference, you can use the memory_get_usage function: http://php.net/manual-lookup.php?pattern=get+memory+usagelang=en -- Andrew

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article metadata separation from main wikitext

characters) Does this mean that we can switch off section editing soon as it becomes useless? Actually, the navigable TOC stuff being worked on by the usability folks looks like a fine replacement for section editing (not that I think it should be turned off, per-se). -- Andrew Garrett agarr

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