[Wikitech-l] PrefixSearchBackend deprecation

2024-05-27 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I've been trying to cleanup TitleKey a bit (hackathon project). One issue was the deprecation of PrefixSearchBackend, the associated hook and the class TitlePrefixSearch in 1.41. Apparently this was already meant to be deprecated since 1.27, but never really properly carried out. However the

[Wikitech-l] Re: inquiry on method to compress PNG imagefiles stored by WikiMedia

2024-04-24 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
And there is all the metadata that tends to get jumbled/warped/damaged/lost. That is another risk that has to be taken into account when processing originals to be stored in another format. DJ On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 3:28 AM Dmitry Brant wrote: > It is true that the PNG format doesn't offer

[Wikitech-l] Re: MediaWiki Insights: February edition

2024-03-01 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I'm very happy that so many fundamental pieces are finally nearing completion this year, after years and years of work and advocacy by individuals. Things that had been initiated in discussions 4, 5 or sometimes even 15 years ago. From the ones listed in Birgit's mail, to the cleanup of the

[Wikitech-l] Re: Gallery image size defaults

2024-01-10 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
250, if not 300px. If that were to pass and other wiki's would not vehemently object, then similar operational concerns would be relevant for that, making it logical that both suggestions would benefit from being executed at roughly the same time. DJ On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 1:02 PM Derk-Jan Hartman

[Wikitech-l] Re: Gallery image size defaults

2024-01-09 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
> > By default in MediaWiki, they are 120 pixel height, 120 pixel width. Boxed 120x120. So neither dimension may exceed 120, but most thumbnails will actually be smaller than that on one of the dimensions. Other wikis often increase the default gallery size. 200x200 would be a > better default

[Wikitech-l] Re: Announcing Codex 1.0

2023-10-25 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Congratulations team (and the predecessor teams) ! We started talking about needing a new way forward all the way back in 2017, with an RFC started in 2019, we choose Vue in 2020 and the teams have been building new foundations since, so far culminating in Codex !! I'm sure there is much work

[Wikitech-l] Re: Announcing MediaWiki 1.40.0

2023-08-08 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I note that we have not yet updated https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.40 This is something that James Forrester tended to do, but I'm not sure if that still falls under their responsibilities. It's also something that is noticeable missing from the checklist:

[Wikitech-l] Re: Proposal: namespace Archived for mediawiki.org

2023-06-01 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
What I'm hoping for is that we will have information that is relevant, show up better than information that is no longer relevant, especially for users of mediawiki.org that are newer and less versed in the history, terminology and mechanics of MediaWiki. At the same time we would still have all

[Wikitech-l] Proposal: namespace Archived for mediawiki.org

2023-05-31 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I'm proposing we introduce a new namespace on mediawiki.org. The namespace name will be Archived (numerical id to be determined) and its purpose will be to hold pages like "Subversion" that have the template "historical" applied to it. These pages would move info that namespace and you would get

[Wikitech-l] Re: Kartographer: New feature for showing nearby articles

2023-04-19 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I just want to thank the WMDE team, as well as the WMF service ops team for putting so much work into Kartographer and Kartotherian over the last two years. A great deal of effort was put into solving many, many small problems and several major ones and building a whole new feature. The code is

[Wikitech-l] Re: [Proposal] Disable setting the "Lowest" Priority value in Phabricator

2023-03-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
> The engineering managers at WMF; That's what they're hired to do! They > develop and manage available resources to reduce meta-toil and enable > minions to spend more time working on stuff. :) Except the engineering managers only cover a minute !!! part of all the tickets. There are like 15

[Wikitech-l] Re: major upgrade of PageProperties extension (a proof of concept for the use of SLOTS)

2023-01-12 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multi-Content_Revisions DJ On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 4:00 PM Derk-Jan Hartman < d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com> wrote: > This is looking really nice ! > > For those wondering, here is an example of the raw api output for this > extra slot when requested: >

[Wikitech-l] Re: major upgrade of PageProperties extension (a proof of concept for the use of SLOTS)

2023-01-12 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
This is looking really nice ! For those wondering, here is an example of the raw api output for this extra slot when requested: https://wikienterprise.org/w/api.php?action=query=json=revisions=Main%20Page=ids%7Ctimestamp%7Cflags%7Ccomment%7Cuser%7Ccontent%7Ccontentmodel%7Cslotsize=* This could

[Wikitech-l] Re: New Codesearch interface in beta testing

2022-10-19 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Really liking the redesign ! Well done to the both of you On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 6:39 AM Kunal Mehta wrote: > Hi, > > Over two years ago[1] I worked on redesigning the Codesearch UI to make > it easier to browse and filter. It didn't go anywhere for various > reasons[2], but in June Krinkle

[Wikitech-l] Re: Query-string normalization enabled on MediaWiki.org

2022-08-19 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
That looks pretty fancy I must say ! On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 7:54 PM Ori Livneh wrote: > Hello, > > A short while ago, the SRE Traffic team enabled > > query-string normalization for MediaWiki.org. This means that the caching > layer

[Wikitech-l] Re: Abstract Schema: Milestone reached for WMF Deployed Extensions

2022-07-15 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I also like to extend my congratulations. This is a huge milestone. One of those things invisible to many people, but which will proof to be extremely useful going forward. Thank you ! DJ > On 14 Jul 2022, at 22:59, Der Umherirrende wrote: > > Hello, > > read previous update news about

[Wikitech-l] Re: 3D models in Commons

2022-07-03 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
You mean 3d models besides the type we already support ? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:3D > On 3 Jul 2022, at 11:49, Strainu wrote: > > Hey folks, > > I know it's a bit early in the fiscal year and that's probably why I can't > find

[Wikitech-l] Parsertests and Parsoid

2022-05-09 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Can the Parsoid team be so kind as to document on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parser_tests how to get the parsertests to be run for Parsoid ? Thank you very much. DJ___ Wikitech-l mailing list --

[Wikitech-l] Re: Wikimedia Hackathon: Call for Sessions

2022-04-28 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
rities of > phab tickets was reserved to WMF staff. Some clarity around this would be > appreciated :-) > > On Apr 28, 2022, at 8:47 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman < > d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Would anyone be interest in a session about triaging

[Wikitech-l] Re: Wikimedia Hackathon: Call for Sessions

2022-04-28 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Would anyone be interest in a session about triaging tickets ? One of things I do quite often is just take a project in Phabricator and go through the tickets and determine if: * The problem (still) exists * Additional information can be gathered * Proper projects, tags and work board columns

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reference Previews: Search for wikis for early deployment

2020-11-05 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
> The new extension will disable itself if RefTooltips is used. Like completely ? So when this goes live, Page Previews will disable itself completely on English wikipedia, because it has a reftooltips enabled by default ? DJ On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 10:54 AM Michael Schönitzer <

Re: [Wikitech-l]  Wikimedia production errors help

2020-09-15 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
In particular I count 13 frontend problems with the old TMH kaltura player. There is clearly no intent to fix those (volunteer or employee), as the Kaltura player has been unmaintained for 8 years. The choices as far as I can tell are to ignore them, undeploy a/v playback or to direct C-level

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ethical question regarding some code

2020-08-07 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
As others, I see several problems 1. If the code is public, someone can duplicate it and bypass our internal 'safekeeping', because it uses public data. 2. Risk of misuse by either incompetence or malice 3. Risk of accidentally exposing legitimate sockpuppets even in the most closed off

Re: [Wikitech-l] Resource Loader messes up Leaflet CSS

2020-04-01 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
This is because you have not initialized the imagePath of leaflet markers. Because of that it falls back to detectIconPath(), which isn't smart enough to handle the myriad of forms of background image css that are possible with post processing systems these days. This issue is also known in

[Wikitech-l] Thank you... twuensday ?

2020-02-12 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Well it's not Tuesday, but better late than never. I'd like to think volutneer DannyS712 [1] who has frankly done a humongous amount of work over the last couple of weeks. DannyS712 has been going through many technical-debt and code cleanup tasks, splitting them and tackling them each one

Re: [Wikitech-l] Security Team collaboration

2020-01-29 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
> The initial point of contact for the majority of our services is now a > consistent Request For Services [2] (RFS) form [3]. Do I need a coversheet ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy3rjQGc6lA On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:13 PM John Bennett wrote: > Hello, > > In an effort to create a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Thank You Tuesday

2019-06-27 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Thank you to Ebe123 (Étienne Beaulé) for adding transcoding support for midi files ! https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Beethoven_Op._33_no._1.mid And thank you to the Foundation’s Trust and Safety team, and the Code of Conduct Committee. DJ On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 4:55 PM Lucas

Re: [Wikitech-l] New Code of Conduct committee candidates

2019-06-20 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Welcome and thank you for serving/having served in such an important role ! DJ On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 11:39 AM Amir Sarabadani wrote: > Hello everyone, > The deadline for the public feedback was yesterday. Some objections have > raised but committee decided not to change the structure of

Re: [Wikitech-l] CI jobs run time

2019-06-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Yes thank you everyone, really important improvements !! DJ On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 11:34 PM Zppix wrote: > Thank you to everyone who has been working on this, I’m sure everyone will > appreciate this, and what is to come in the future! > > -- > Devin “Zppix” CCENT > Volunteer Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] Security Notification: A quick update on ongoing attempts to disrupt Wikimedia services

2019-03-22 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Really appreciate the hard work you guys put in. DJ On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 12:14 AM David Sharpe wrote: > > > Hello, > > Over the past several days an individual has continued to attempt > disruption of Wikimedia Services. The Wikimedia Foundation’s incident > response processes are activated

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia production excellence (February 2019)

2019-03-22 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Just a note that I have really appreciated these overviews and I hope they keep going strong ! DJ On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 8:15 PM Krinkle wrote: >  Read on Phabricator at > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/phame/live/1/post/141/ > --- > > How’d we do in our strive for operational

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-18 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
> > Second, returning to the subject of technical debt, my understanding was > that WMF staff were concerned for years about the accumulation of technical > debt, but in this thread I get the impression that WMF staff has changed > their minds. Am I misunderstanding something? Last year has seen

Re: [Wikitech-l] Old tiles.wfmlabs.org maps services need maintainers to keep them alive after december 18th

2019-03-12 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
/rotation 4: renderd logging 5: renderd socket getting stuck ? wma.wmflabs.org is still not saved however. DJ On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:39 PM Derk-Jan Hartman < d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com> wrote: > This is just another small reminder that, because the servers which host > tiles

Re: [Wikitech-l] Old tiles.wfmlabs.org maps services need maintainers to keep them alive after december 18th

2018-12-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
do to be given access > and volunteer to do this? > >>>> > >>>> alexan...@vassilevski.com > >>>> > >>>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > >>>> On Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:09, Johan Jönsson < > jjons..

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Maps-l] Old tiles.wfmlabs.org maps services need maintainers to keep them alive after december 18th

2018-12-14 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
This is not a complete image. As there are no maintainers responding, it requires deconstructing and analysing what is there now for this specific tool, reworking that into a new system, testing that new system and then switching from old to new. DJ On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 5:49 PM Andre Klapper

Re: [Wikitech-l] Old tiles.wfmlabs.org maps services need maintainers to keep them alive after december 18th

2018-12-13 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Yeah might be wise to at least reach out to en.wp and de.wp. Or maybe Tech News even ? DJ On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 6:45 PM Andre Klapper wrote: > On Wed, 2018-12-12 at 14:39 +0100, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote: > > This is just another small reminder that, because the servers w

[Wikitech-l] Old tiles.wfmlabs.org maps services need maintainers to keep them alive after december 18th

2018-12-12 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
This is just another small reminder that, because the servers which host tiles.wmflabs.org and wma.wmflabs.org (wikiminiatlas) and overpass-wiki run on a version of the OS (Ubuntu Trusty) that is no longer supported (and hasn't been available for new instances since november 2017). These

Re: [Wikitech-l] problematic use of "Declined" in Phabricator

2018-10-03 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Another side effect of closing a ticket with Declined, is that it doesn't show up in search (because it's closed and closed tickets are omitted by default). But if the problem or desire for the feature still exists, it is likely to be reported again by users via a new ticket and other people then

Re: [Wikitech-l] Datacenter switchover and switchback

2018-08-30 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
While I think these regular switches are a very good idea, from an outside perspective I do have to question a process that puts a significant plug in the velocity of various teams working on major projects (esp. in a time of year that could probably be seen as one of the most productive). What

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-tech] Normalization of change tag schema

2018-07-30 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
That is an impressive difference ! On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 6:22 PM Amir Sarabadani < amir.sarabad...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > And this is the load on vslow database nodes on s7: > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] QUnit, Promises and ArticlePlaceHolder

2018-07-23 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Well following the trail of links, leads me to this likely cause: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180171#4236340 The extension relies on grunt-contrib-qunit which depends on > phantomjs-prebuild and run qunit tests with PhantomJS. The tests are under > tests/qunit: which indirectly is

Re: [Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-announce] MediaWiki 1.31.0 now available!

2018-06-14 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Chad, On this last release email, I just want to thank you for your tireless contributions in the past years both as a Wikipedian (2005), a volunteer developer (2008?) and as a WMF employee (2010?). Your commitment to open source and our projects has been amazing and you moved us forward while at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deactivating hyperlink by CSS

2018-05-11 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
You cannot do this with CSS. You need to remove the href attribute from such an element if you want it to stop linking to something (which is what the mw-selflink's do). DJ ‪On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 6:56 PM ‫יגאל חיטרון‬‎ wrote:‬ > Hi Quiddity. > I'm working with an old

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct for Wikimedia technical spaces - Code of Conduct Committee - 2018.II members

2018-04-28 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Thank you candidates and committee ! DJ On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 6:05 PM, Sébastien Santoro wrote: > Hello all, > > The candidate slates has been deemed finalized. > > Thanks to the new candidates joining the committee to support > this important mission, sustaining our

Re: [Wikitech-l] Introduction : Tanvi Dadu ( GSoC 2018)

2018-04-25 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Looking forward to see you work on these items ! Welcome, DJ On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 7:10 AM, Brian Wolff wrote: > Welcome Tanvi! > > -- > Brian > > On Tuesday, April 24, 2018, Tanvi Dadu wrote: >> Greetings ! >> >> I am Tanvi Dadu, GSoC 2018

Re: [Wikitech-l] Guideline on HTML classes?

2018-04-23 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
There is no comprehensive list of classes, because we simply have too many of them. And they differ per skin, extension and subpart of the wiki. And then there is the content where wiki's do whatever they want... This specifically, is why for widgets etc we are moving too OOUI, so that the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Page previews promoted out of beta on all Wikipedias

2018-04-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
w00t. especially for Prateek who did much of the early work. https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Popups/commits/45046da7f1e435760868eaae99676411a964b2ff?after=45046da7f1e435760868eaae99676411a964b2ff+874 Glad ppl persevered. DJ On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:41 PM, Joshua Minor

Re: [Wikitech-l] changes coming to large dumps

2018-04-10 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
It seems that the pagecounts-ez sets disappeared from dumps.wikimedia.org starting this date. Is that a coincidence ? Is it https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189283 perhaps ? DJ On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Ariel Glenn WMF wrote: > Here it comes: > > For the April 1st

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mobile MonoBook

2018-04-05 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
My preferred solution would be: Open the content in a modal dialog, preferably (with landscape option). Open the content full size within that modal and use overflow scrolling to navigate it when needed. You can't make tables responsive, it's just impossible. And if you have the Excel app on your

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Announcing project ‘Invest in the MobileFrontend & MinervaNeue frontend architecture’

2018-04-04 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I really like all of these goals, but I have to say that many of them seem to be a recurring theme (which to me is understandable, but maybe not to others). I pose to you an additional challenge.. Don't do this just to mobilefrontend/minervaneue. Do it to a component of core/an extension as well

Re: [Wikitech-l] Refactoring MonoBook

2018-03-20 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
So.. what if you shove the old monobooktemplate into the Modern skin, rename it and let it use that. Then it becomes self contained, you don't have your problem anymore, and Modern can slowly further bitrot ;) Its not ideal, but I would consider it acceptable. DJ On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 2:03

Re: [Wikitech-l] What ways are there to include user-edited JavaScript in a wiki page? (threat model: crypto miners)

2018-03-19 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On a side note. Have we looked recently at decoupling the site wide JS/CSS rights from the edit interface right ? It has always seemed a bit weird to me that we had both these things in MediaWiki namespace, but the more we are closing down raw HTML in MediaWiki namespace, the weirder it becomes.

Re: [Wikitech-l] What ways are there to include user-edited JavaScript in a wiki page? (threat model: crypto miners)

2018-03-14 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
In my opinion, such accounts should be globally blocked btw. It is a grave breach of trust and such accounts cannot be trusted anywhere else either. Thanks for playing, but goodbye for ever. DJ On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > On Wednesday, March 14,

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 4 March 2018)

2018-03-05 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
What made me happy was my vacation. Just a general reminder for others to get out there and ignore Wikimedia for a week, it's very good for you. :) DJ On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 3:41 AM, Pine W wrote: > There was thoughtful, robust, and civil conversations on Wikimedia-l last >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit login oddities

2018-02-14 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Thank you Chad ! On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 2:37 AM, Chad <innocentkil...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 10:27 AM Chad <innocentkil...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:39 AM Derk-Jan Hartman < >> d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com> wrote: &

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit login oddities

2018-02-13 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Ah, this explains why i wasn't able to login... Really confusing.. Can't we set a varnish/apache/nginx/whatever rule or something to overwrite older now broken cookie settings ? DJ On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez wrote: > This is unfortunate

Re: [Wikitech-l] AdvancedSearch beta feature now on Mediawiki

2017-11-22 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Really impressive ! I wonder if we can add to the information page, the reasoning that went into selecting which of the advanced options to include, and which to exclude. DJ On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:10 AM, יגאל חיטרון wrote: > Wow. Thanks a lot! But you really should add a

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] New Developers Quarterly Report's first edition

2017-10-18 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Quite disconcerting indeed DJ On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Srishti Sethi wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> >> I would like to share the first edition of the New Developers Quarterly >> Report

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] MobileFrontend disruption: Plans to break Minerva out into its own repository

2017-07-04 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
awesome ! > On 4 Jul 2017, at 19:45, Gergo Tisza wrote: > > Nice! Thanks for working on this. > > On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Jon Robson > wrote: > Dear all > Back in 2014, Legoktm made the sensible suggestion

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes to Product and Technology departments at the Foundation

2017-06-08 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I'm really looking forward to these changes. I have (as many) long been unsatisfied with the previous 2015 reorg. I was also a firm believer in keeping it in place over the last year, to make sure people got time to recover from the craziness. During WM conf in Berlin however I had many hallway

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference

2017-05-10 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
We had some discussions about this at the devsummit, since it was on one of the wish lists.. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T16950 At that time I suggested it would probably be easier and less risky, to start of with a tools project, that allows you to apply a setting to all our properties.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fair use image indicated as free use?

2017-04-21 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
It might have been on purpose that there was no licensetpl_nonfree. The reason being, that even though that template looks like a license it isn't an actual license. Instead we use fair use rationale's, and these do have licensetpl_nonfree. However this specific file was not using the right

Re: [Wikitech-l] Introducing the MediaWiki Platform Team!

2017-04-03 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I'm very happy with this development and look forward to seeing the team at work. I don't think anyone really understood and supported the demise of the old Platform team, though I think many recognised that it was experiencing problems. I hope to see a strong focus on making MediaWiki a platform

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of Technical Collaboration Guidance discussion

2017-03-15 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
You mean like here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap ? Where it is already posting it's annual and quarterly plans to as much detail as anyone is able to predict a roadmap ? No one from community is discussing it (at least other than those already discussing it before). This 'community

Re: [Wikitech-l] MVVM/Single-State solution for our UIs?

2017-01-31 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
This discussion seems exactly what we have a Frontend Standards group for: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Front-end_standards_group https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/1616/ DJ On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Jan Dittrich wrote: > Hello Wikitext-l, > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] update: wikipedia.org portal

2016-05-21 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
-329053810923u53409 everyone DJ > On 21 mei 2016, at 21:11, Vituzzu wrote: > > +1 > > Vito > > Il 21/05/2016 21:01, rupert THURNER ha scritto: >> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 1:07 AM, MZMcBride wrote: >> It's frustrating and annoying that your

Re: [Wikitech-l] update: wikipedia.org portal

2016-05-21 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I like the addition of the descriptive subtitles. But I would suggest taking them to meta to settle on what they should be exactly, and also then documenting them (including arguments) to make sure that they can be used consistently throughout the projects. I was wondering about the colors.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator Differential lackings

2016-05-09 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
As someone who has worked with Differential outside of Wikimedia projects, I can summarize this back as: The problem of Differential is not the possibilities and functionality, it is a problem of usability (UX). Github, Gitlab and Bitbucket have the UX of using tons of different repo's down,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Legacy wikibits will no longer loaded by default on Wikimedia wikis and MediaWiki 1.27

2016-03-27 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
So eh.. what are we doing with this part then: // Not quite deprecated yet. win.importScript = importScript; win.importStylesheet = importStylesheet; > On 26 mrt. 2016, at 00:19, Krinkle wrote: > > TL;DR: >* Review site scripts to verify

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mostly about anglophile devs, and a small complaint about VisualEditor

2016-03-13 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
> On 13 mrt. 2016, at 20:36, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: > > Ideally, this should some day be real metadata and not templates. Using > templates for this is a hack that keeps living long after it should have > died. > > And it should be easy and fast to edit this

[Wikitech-l] limited presence

2016-03-02 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Hi all, ive had a small accident with skiing. ill be fine, but because of it my participation will be low for some while and though i am reading along with some things, any answers will like be terse, and code will be none. DJ signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using

Re: [Wikitech-l] Brownbag: Exiting New Improvements to Phabricator

2016-03-02 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
was this recorded ? DJ > On 1 mrt. 2016, at 21:36, David Strine wrote: > > We will be holding this brownbag in 25 minutes. The Bluejeans link has > changed: > > https://bluejeans.com/396234560 > > > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 3:10 PM, David Strine

Re: [Wikitech-l] Medical leave

2016-02-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Take care Frances ! > Hopefully the situations will improve soon / by then. (really needs to...) I couldn't agree more with that statement... DJ On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:51 AM, aude wrote: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Frances Hocutt >

[Wikitech-l] Analysis and Concepts

2016-02-16 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I've been doing a lot of thinking about products that have been built in the past years, discussions that we are having about current developments and about future projects. And I noticed that I really needed to put some of that down somewhere public. So I have created the following:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please welcome Chris Koerner to the Wikimedia Foundation

2016-02-10 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Welcome Chris ! It's good to see a community liaison coming from a slightly different background and I hope to see you around ! DJ On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > I am pleased to announce that Chris Koerner has joined the Wikimedia > Foundation as

Re: [Wikitech-l] New [[Main Page]] for Wikitech

2016-01-28 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
This is awesome Bryan ! DJ > On 29 jan. 2016, at 06:55, Bryan Davis wrote: > > I've been working on a little redesign project for the Main Page on > wikitech [0] and three key sub pages it points to since 2016-01-01 in > my User space. Tonight I decided that although it is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Close test2wiki?

2016-01-27 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
3 things come to mind. Not so long ago an invitation was sent to wiki communities to use that specific server for VE single edit tab testing. I think that should be taken into account. Since this feature has not yet landed in production, people might still be using that link to evaluate and

Re: [Wikitech-l] The right way to inject user-supplied JavaScript?

2015-12-29 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
> On 29 dec. 2015, at 21:59, Daniel Barrett wrote: > I also read > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_for_extension_developers > but did not find an answer. Hmm, we should really update parts of those guides btw. They not yet take 1.26 into

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMF Discovery/Editing/Reading Showcase 20151214

2015-12-18 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I have to say, there is some awesome stuff in there. Nice work everyone ! DJ On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Adam Baso wrote: > Here's video from the Discovery/Editing/Reading Showcase on > 14-December-2015. Enjoy! > > Commons >

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Pageview API

2015-11-16 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Grah, too early in the morning unselfishly of course !!! DJ > On 17 nov. 2015, at 08:10, Derk-Jan Hartman <d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Awesome !! > And once more a thank you to Henrik who selflessly maintained his > stats.grok.se for s

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Pageview API

2015-11-16 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Awesome !! And once more a thank you to Henrik who selflessly maintained his stats.grok.se for so many years !!! DJ > On 17 nov. 2015, at 04:40, Rachel diCerbo wrote: > > This is fantastic news - thank you so much, Analytics, Services, Ops, and > the communities who

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update about on-going work on Notifications, especially cross-wiki notifications

2015-11-14 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Thank goodness. Finally we might be able to start fully building out the promise of powerful, targeted and appropriate messaging that Echo always was the the kick off for. I especially like the acknowledgment of the 'volume knob'. Balancing the 'noise' of messaging is going to be really

Re: [Wikitech-l] +2 in mediawiki/* for Florian

2015-09-08 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
wait, he didn’t have +2 yet ? well about time !!! congrats. > On 8 sep. 2015, at 22:48, Legoktm wrote: > > Hi, > > Per [1], I gave Florian +2 powers in mediawiki/* repos. Congratulations! > > [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105612 > > -- Legoktm > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to serve up subtitles

2015-08-18 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
/TimedText:Folgers.ogv.de.srt DJ On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 5:56 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: As part of Brion's and mine struggle for better A/V support on Wikipedia, I have concluded that our current

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Replace Tidy with HTML 5 parse/reserialize

2015-08-18 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
If we want to do away with Tidy, we will have to make all editors perfect html authors, or we risk them damaging pages so much that they potentially can't access the edit button anymore. As far as i'm concerned, this is what Tidy does primarily. Isolate errors in the content in such a way that it

[Wikitech-l] How to serve up subtitles

2015-08-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
As part of Brion's and mine struggle for better A/V support on Wikipedia, I have concluded that our current support for subtitles is rather... improvised. Currently all our SRT files are referenced from HTML using action=raw. But then not actually used from action=raw, but instead served up as

Re: [Wikitech-l] I love Parsoid but it doesn't want me

2015-08-14 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
This is awesome, thank you Scott DJ On 14 aug. 2015, at 00:20, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.org wrote: Good news: https://doc.wikimedia.org/Parsoid/master/#!/guide/jsapi now documents the new friendlier API for Parsoid. --scott On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Ricordisamoa

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia iOS app moving to GH

2015-07-22 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I have no problem with that, as long as everyone with +2 keeps his access and someone manages developer account additions and removals. Oh, and when it syncs with phabricator tickets DJ On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Good job, you aren't the only one.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upcoming SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi changes

2015-07-15 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 15 jul. 2015, at 18:43, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is this related to the fact that some pages are now categorized in Pages with syntax highlighting errors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_with_syntax_highlighting_errors ? How can we find what is

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-07-07 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: Is there a common approach for gadgets to identify themselves to the API - e.g. setting a custom user-agent? Clients that cannot set the User-Agent header (such as gadgets and other scripts running in a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is non-SSL request still allowed?

2015-06-12 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/06/12/securing-wikimedia-sites-with-https/ On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Max Vlasov max.vla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have a software using mediawiki api with Wikipedia. It uses general http requests. Suddenly it stopped working several days ago (maybe a

[Wikitech-l] Side by side content preview of wikicode

2015-06-09 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Now that I finally have JS previewing for wikicode working a bit better... I present a new user script: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ/ActualLivePreview.js If your window is wider then 1200px, it will split it in half and show you your edit surface and your content preview side by

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please help a patch not to become two years old

2015-06-08 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Just for kicks, I revived an almost 2,5 year old patch to add WebP upload support :D https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/95872/ Anyone interested ? DJ On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: Il 08/06/2015 12:56, Andre Klapper ha scritto: On Sat,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lists as first class citizens

2015-04-08 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 8 apr. 2015, at 21:17, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: I think the problem is one of integration. People want anything publically editable to be consistent. Earlier in this thread TheDJ made a comparison to building an office tower with duct tape. Well he has a fair point about

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome Chromium to our QUnit testing

2015-04-07 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Thank you for the update Timo, good to see so many improvements finally coming together. DJ On 4 apr. 2015, at 05:40, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: TL;DR: * Our QUnit jobs now uses latest Chromium instead of PhantomJS. * You can run the test suite from the command line locally now.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lists as first class citizens

2015-04-07 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Can we stop pretending that duct tape is the best thing out there ? It’s great as patch-up material and as an arts project you can probably build a house out of it you really tried, but that doesn’t make it a good building material for a 60 story office building. DJ, Let’s naturalize a few

Re: [Wikitech-l] Thumbnail image hinting in articles via metadata tags

2015-04-03 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 3 apr. 2015, at 06:27, Stas Malyshev smalys...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi! Would it be feasible to include an og:image tag on pages for which we have a reasonable guess as to the thumbnail? Open Graph[3] is supported by what seems anecdotally to me to be a wide range of services, so

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension:Gather launching on beta for English WP mobile users.

2015-03-26 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 26 mrt. 2015, at 15:19, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Actually after reading the extension page, I'm a little confused. If the goal is to create private personal lists why are the lists public? I can understand the use case for private lists (watchlist). I understand the use case

Re: [Wikitech-l] Org changes in WMF's Platform Engineering group

2015-03-25 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Gilles Dubuc gil...@wikimedia.org wrote: As far as active development goes, some things are still in the pipeline, like addressing technical issues that affect UploadWizard's funnel. This is assigned to the API team but isn't the top priority for the coming

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] VisualEditor on Wikipedia now faster with RESTBase

2015-03-20 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Wow great work everyone, thank you for all the hard work to make this happen. DJ On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:14 AM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Jared Zimmerman jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org wrote:

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