I should also add that the reason I say this is that IE8 is not the only
browser that doesn't support media queries. There are many browsers that
were written before IE8 and installed on phones with no upgrade path. This
is just one of the biggest ones.
On 15 Nov 2015 7:08 a.m.,
The solution to this is to do true mobile first development e.g. wrap your
desktop and tablet styles in media queries. Rendering a mobile site in IE8
is an acceptable trade off and ensures the content remains readable which
is the most important thing here.
We (Wikimedia devs) still build desktop
It's been a year now, over 3-6 months. Volker can this be given a
priority in the next frontend standards meeting. I think the lack of
any standard is extremely damaging to the project.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Bryan Davis wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:24 PM,
It doesn't look like this is in any state for patches...
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113681#1673158
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or to insert the spaces
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also use setExtensionData directly.
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&
The reading web team discovered that no one was maintaining the
RelatedArticles [1] extension despite it being deployed on Wikivoyage, so
we have taken the time to clean it up and get it ported to extension.json
etc and give it some love...
Whilst doing so, we noticed that it depends on a
t; <zhoris...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How would a hack day/afternoon work? Is that an office thing? If so, would
> that be something you could run based off... uh, more information?
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The reading web dashboard -
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/dashboard/manage/125/ - has been
updated to have panels allowing you to easily find easy patches to
work on (in priority order) and code to review.
I'm using the code to review column as part of Gerrit cleanup day
since it seems to be
Sam asked me to write up my recent adventures with ServiceWorkers and
making requests for MediaWiki content super super fast so all our
lovely users can access information quicker. Right now we're trying to
make the mobile site ridiculously fast by using new shiny standard web
technologies.
The
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> making requests for MediaWiki content super super fast so all our
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Dear Greg, and anyone else that is involved in deployment
This is a follow-up from Dan Duvall's talk today during the metrics
meeting about voting browser tests.
Background:
The reading web team this quarter with the help of Dan Duvall has made
huge strides in our QA infrastructure. The
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>> Thanks, I thought I was alone with being confused by this e-mail. As
>> Jérémie correctly states we'll likely to
After a successful Google Summer of Code, Sumit (@codezee) on irc with
help from Nicolas Raoul of the Wikivoyage editing community and
myself, I am excited to announce that Wikivoyage is now using the
WikidataPageBanner extension [1].
A bit of back story - the Wwikivoyage community built a
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The reading team are currently focusing energy on speeding up the site
for all our users (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98986 is the
tracking bug where this work can be followed)
Off the back of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105361 I had a
quick chat with Ori to document how the
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Apologies if I'm missing something but is there any reason why we can't do
image rotation on the client using the canvas JavaScript api?
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Allowing override of the thumb rotation would provide you real time
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https://github.com/reddit/reddit-mobile/issues/247
Awesome stuff.
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(thanks!)
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks for the quick reply! :)
Yes site notices should be disabled on mobile, but site notices on
mobile are currently treated different to central notice banners
(rightly or wrongly) so I can only
I noticed a banner on the mobile site that renders the site unusable:
http://imgur.com/qVGz3mZ
I'm not sure who is responsible for Freedom of Panorama in Europe in
2015 but can someone disable this on mobile asap or make it work on
mobile?
Please also reach out to us on the mobile-l mailing list
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Jacob
I've cc'ed wikitech to get an update on bug
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483
The last update here was in February 2015. I personally think this is
one of our most urgent bugs to fix, but it's not clear
Some of you may have noticed a bot [1] providing reviews for the
Mobilefrontend and Gather extensions.
This is a grass routes experiment [2] to see if we can reduce
regressions by running browser tests against every single commit. It's
very crude, and we're going to have to maintain it but we see
I also would recommend 2. We had this issue recently with some tweaks
Kaldari made to our main menu.
Given that lightning deploys happen we really should make master stable
always.
If Jenkins is barfing on this there may be other extensions out there which
will also barf. It also makes rolling
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I suspect the idea is to lean more on our quality assurance infrastructure
e.g. browser tests which I fully welcome.
The more developed they become the less chance of regressions making it to
code let alone our projects.
When I joined 3 years ago we had no quality assurance infrastructure and
This is super awesome Greg. Thanks for making this happen. The deployment
schedule has always been a huge source of pain for me.
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Hi all,
Starting the week of June 8th we'll be transitioning our MediaWiki +
Extensions
FYI We had a meeting about this today at the wikimedia hackathon
specifically for mobile.
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98986
On 23 May 2015 9:09 pm, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Hoping that this gets to the right people in Engineering:
As stated on the bug I'd like us to get to a point where we don't have to
think about this. Ideally a JavaScript dev should be able to create an oojs
ui image element that is compatible with this. A server side function
should also exist for creating this.
On 6 May 2015 6:57 am, Prateek Saxena
/Interaction-Scenarios
Project history: Exactly one year ago, Dan Andreescu (milimetric) and Jon
Robson demoed Vega visualization grammar
https://trifacta.github.io/vega/
usage in MediaWiki. The project stayed dormant for almost half a year,
until Zero team decided it was a good solution to do
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On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote:
snip
Any community members interested in helping out here? I'm very sad the
increase in errors wasn't picked up sooner... :-/
What does
Anonymous editing was enabled on mobile web on 30th March 2015 to all users
(previous it was available in an experimental mode of the site). Now we
have almost a month's worth of data I thought it would be a good time to
check the impact... it's a little disappointing to be honest... but it
/Anne
On 28 April 2015 at 20:00, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Anonymous editing was enabled on mobile web on 30th March 2015 to all
users
(previous it was available in an experimental mode of the site). Now we
have almost a month's worth of data I thought it would be a good
:)
On 28 Apr 2015 8:39 pm, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote:
On 28 April 2015 at 20:00, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote:
snip
Details on the queries I ran:
In March for a 26 day period before the change:
* 170,948 total edits [1]
* 169,845 non-anonymous edits [6
Wonderful news!
Congrats to all of you.
I can't wait to see how you all go about solving all these problems!
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On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Niharika Kohli nko...@wikimedia.org
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Hello everyone!
After a long and intense
Is there a phab task for that.. ? :-)
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I use mw.api so I suspect that to handle deprecation notices - does it
not? If not why
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It would help to surface api deprecation notices into the JavaScript
console just like mw.deprecate does for more visibility.
The API can and does already report deprecation warnings, and the way that
happens is on my long
functioning like logins, warnings,
continuation, in the way that API devs feel is best, but nothing specific
to any of the modules (e.g. it should not have a separate function to get a
list of all pages).
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there a phab
storey building is in the making. The bazaar is horizontal, a
vertical suk is too similar to a cathedral.
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On Apr 8, 2015 2:59 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
The main motivation for lists as not being wikipages is so that they
can be combined with the recent changes feed and other things stored
in the database
I am writing to invite you to preview and hopefully contribute to
Gather [1], a new MediaWiki extension that allows users to create,
share, and discover lists of articles. Gather is currently available
for all users of the mobile site who have opted in to beta. This
launch was primarily for the
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Daniel Friesen
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On 2015-04-02 8:44 PM, Brian Wolff wrote:
However there is clearly a desire to be able to identify a representitive
image for an article. This need is exhibited across many websites including
reddit, facebook,
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A few notes:
* lists are public in the first version but there is APIs to make them
private. Public lists is something that will have moderation problems and
interesting to explore.
* the feature is _launching_ on mobile. It's built to work on desktop and
with a tiny bit of work I can turn it on
to get this as a desktop beta feature too if
anyone is willing to help me.
On 26 Mar 2015 7:41 am, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote:
A few notes:
* lists are public in the first version but there is APIs to make them
private. Public lists is something that will have moderation problems
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On 19 March 2015 at 11:08, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 Mar 2015 7:55 am, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org
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On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Danny Horn dh...@wikimedia.org
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On 19 Mar 2015 7:55 am, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Danny Horn dh...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Brad: unfortunately, it's really hard to tell very much from a
conversation
with messages like 3: Post C: reply to Post A. You could do that with
Fiayy!
So happy to hear this is happening :)
On 16 Mar 2015 17:52, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) nwil...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
LiquidThreads (LQT) has not been well-supported in a long time. Flow
is in active development, and more real-world use-cases will help
focus attention on the
Great stuff. cc Wikidata, I know they were interested in replacing
their custom template engine...
I will respond to Krinkle's review for the client side library today.
Jon
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote:
After 14 months of discussion, HTML
When comparing to Bugzilla rather than bugs open/closed engagement would be
a good measure of success e.g. number of replies.
I sense more involvement from community members with the LDAP integration
since the move which IMO is huge.
I personally am creating more bugs there as Phabricator is a
at 1:11 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
The average time for code to go from submitted to merged appears to be
29 days over a dataset of 524 patches, excluding all that were written
by the L10n bot
I was really happy to hear Damon, at the MediaWiki Developer Summit,
ask us how long we take to code review and whether we had communicated
a timeframe in which we promised to do it to our community. He quite
rightly stressed that this was vital for the survival of our
community. I spoke to one of
the most neglected patchsets on each page and
encourage people to actually go and review them!
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
Introducing:
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Hey Baha! How can I see what this is like without a Gnome environment?
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Lydia Pintscher
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On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 6:24 AM, Bahodir Mansurov
/Special:NewProperty and there
must be a faster way then manual entry?
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I can log in as well.
On Jan 22, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
Are we using http://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/ ?
I can't
Are we using http://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/ ?
I can't seem to login
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Are we using http://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/ ?
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LookupInputWidget properly.
The suggestions menu is overlaid by other text input widgets, but it works.
Il 10/01/2015 17:15, Jon Robson ha scritto:
I recently hit the exact same issue. It's a useful widget but has no demos
(see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85467)
Luckily after a week
.
This should mean fewer problems for QA to find in beta labs. I am all for
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I recently hit the exact same issue. It's a useful widget but has no demos
(see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85467)
Luckily after a week of fiddling Florian and I have two demos that are
working. The code in the following patches should help you work out.
I understand that Andrew Garret is
I smell another Jon/thedj/aude collaboration coming up... :)
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On 10 jan. 2015, at 02:10, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
What if we used Wikidata and had an open form of sharing?
I could imagine us asking
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:27 PM, quiddity pandiculat...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
As far as i can tell, the arguments (on enwiki) usually boil down to:
*providing a share this link is a tacit endorsement/free advertisement of a
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Gregory Varnum gregory.var...@gmail.com wrote:
There is indeed a mighty debate about this. When we discussed the simple
idea of a WikiShare extension to post articles on social media sites - it
raised a hell storm that I still have war flashbacks from.
I'm
wrote:
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:30 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Jon Robson wrote:
Thoughts?
Adding easter eggs sounds like a fairly strange recruitment tactic, but I
don't see any harm in trying it out and seeing what happens. It's not
totally clear to me what problem we're
(and this is my current thinking for an experiment in mobile -
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85815 - feel free to move
conversation over there if this interests you)
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
I think in my spare time I'll write a patch to test
I was thinking more for the movement and specifically curious if this has
ever been attempted in the past. If it hasn't it seems like something we
should try.
On 3 Jan 2015 20:30, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Jon Robson wrote:
Recently on https://developer.mozilla.org/ I noticed
Recently on https://developer.mozilla.org/ I noticed an easter egg
when you pop open the JavaScript console.
snip
Interested in having a direct impact on hundreds of millions of users? Join
Mozilla, and become part of a global community that’s helping to build a
brighter future for the Web.
snip
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Ricordisamoa wrote:
It looks like the Purge extension
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Purge for MediaWiki could be
very useful to replace many similar gadgets on Wikimedia sites.
New users often need to purge the server
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Okay I had a long hard think about this.
I would suggest the following EventLogging experiment on the mobile website:
Question to answer: If section collapsing is provided to users in such
a way that sections are open by default, do users find the ability to
collapse sections a useful feature?
These are pretty cool. I'd love to see a mobile specific one:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78621
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Aaron Schulz asch...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Cool!
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm writing to draw your attention to
I think we should explore this. I don't think this is about extra
clicks... On tablets like desktop we expand sections by default but
__allow___ them to be collapsible. It would be interesting to add some
event logging to see how widely used that feature is on tablet.
It could thus also be useful
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This is cool although I'm not sure how I feel about. This is not just
a mobile problem, this is a skin problem.
In the distant future, I would hope after Trevor's work on the skin
system we would have a much healthier ecosystem of skins which work
nicely in both mobile and desktop mode.
If Vector
On mobile we continuously get bugs related to inline styles in
templates. For example:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68001
When these happen we usually spend time investigating, discover it is
because of a troublesome inline style in the template and then we
communicate this on
(See also https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35704 for
lots of examples of broken template/css combos)
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On mobile we continuously get bugs related to inline styles in
templates. For example:
https
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there a techguide anywhere on how to style templates to avoid mobile
problems?
There are a few notes here -
The wiki way is not to ask and wait for someone else to act, but to act
directly in good faith and communicate what you did and why so that if
there is disagreement it can be resolved afterwards.
Sadly I only have template edit rights on my staff account and I
really don't like using that
that there are thousands of these
kinds of templates, I will also echo Brion! We need to make mobile testing
more visible to those who are creating those templates.
Dan
On 7 October 2014 15:14, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org
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On 7 Oct 2014 18:15, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 7 Oct 2014 18:03, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Jon,
Regarding editing specific templates, I'll echo Brion here. If a
template
is causing difficulties for your work and you feel like you know enough
to
fix
some commonality between mobile's overlays.
[1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71075
[2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71076
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Update: Since these changes touch every single bit of mobile's
/Developers/Maintainers
Freundliche Grüße / Kind regards
Florian
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https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159555
Switch to using OO.inheritClass:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159553
After this is done it would be good to sit down and document ways we
can make better use of OOJS in mobile.
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function)
Not sure if this is an issue with OOJS or the patch Roan made for us.
Any ideas VE guys?
[1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/129336/
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Jon Robson jrob
1) Trevor is going to build a watch star widget on client and server.
We identified that the existing watch star code is poorly written and
has resulted in MobileFrontend rewriting it. We decided to target this
as it is a simple enough example that it doesn't need a template. It's
small and
1) Monte to explore using SVGs in the Wikipedia apps. He will create
font from SVGs. He will work with May to ensure her workflow is as
easy as before.
Monte any updates on this?
2) Trevor is going to look into how we can automatically generate
different colour versions of SVGs and
Sure, we are still keen to see the RFC resolved, we just worry that it is
not progressing at the speed we would like. It's not a case of ignoring it
but a case of not letting ourselves be blocked on it whilst we have
momentum.
I was merely stating that we are not afraid of continuing down the
than when I tested it in MobileFrontend, so it would be good to
give it another trial run (and a 2nd opinion).
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:25 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
Sure, we are still keen to see the RFC resolved, we just worry that it is
not progressing at the speed we
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