Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

2015-11-14 Thread Jon Robson
I should also add that the reason I say this is that IE8 is not the only browser that doesn't support media queries. There are many browsers that were written before IE8 and installed on phones with no upgrade path. This is just one of the biggest ones. On 15 Nov 2015 7:08 a.m.,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

2015-11-14 Thread Jon Robson
The solution to this is to do true mobile first development e.g. wrap your desktop and tablet styles in media queries. Rendering a mobile site in IE8 is an acceptable trade off and ensures the content remains readable which is the most important thing here. We (Wikimedia devs) still build desktop

Re: [Wikitech-l] MW support for Composer equivalent for JavaScript packages

2015-11-05 Thread Jon Robson
It's been a year now, over 3-6 months. Volker can this be given a priority in the next frontend standards meeting. I think the lack of any standard is extremely damaging to the project. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Bryan Davis wrote: > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:24 PM,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Rewriting the watchstar code in OOjs UI / performance

2015-11-04 Thread Jon Robson
It doesn't look like this is in any state for patches... https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113681#1673158 On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:54 AM, James Forrester <jforres...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On 4 November 2015 at 10:48, Jon Robson <jrob...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > &g

Re: [Wikitech-l] i would like that i need not set standart spacing in my code

2015-10-14 Thread Jon Robson
or to insert the spaces > when you type. > > Tim > > > _______ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- Jon Robson * http://jonrobson.me.uk

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sunsetting the CustomData extension

2015-10-08 Thread Jon Robson
Thanks Brad. I will take a look at those extensions and see if they can also use setExtensionData directly. On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) <bjor...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Jon Robson <jrob...@wikimedia.org> wrote: &

[Wikitech-l] Sunsetting the CustomData extension

2015-10-08 Thread Jon Robson
The reading web team discovered that no one was maintaining the RelatedArticles [1] extension despite it being deployed on Wikivoyage, so we have taken the time to clean it up and get it ported to extension.json etc and give it some love... Whilst doing so, we noticed that it depends on a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?

2015-09-30 Thread Jon Robson
t; <zhoris...@gmail.com> wrote: > How would a hack day/afternoon work? Is that an office thing? If so, would > that be something you could run based off... uh, more information? > > On 28/09/15 22:15, Jon Robson wrote: > >> I'd be interested in the process people go th

Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?

2015-09-28 Thread Jon Robson
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[Wikitech-l] Reading web dashboard

2015-09-23 Thread Jon Robson
The reading web dashboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/dashboard/manage/125/ - has been updated to have panels allowing you to easily find easy patches to work on (in priority order) and code to review. I'm using the code to review column as part of Gerrit cleanup day since it seems to be

[Wikitech-l] Super-charging Mobile: An experiment with ServiceWorkers in MediaWiki

2015-09-16 Thread Jon Robson
Sam asked me to write up my recent adventures with ServiceWorkers and making requests for MediaWiki content super super fast so all our lovely users can access information quicker. Right now we're trying to make the mobile site ridiculously fast by using new shiny standard web technologies. The

Re: [Wikitech-l] Super-charging Mobile: An experiment with ServiceWorkers in MediaWiki

2015-09-16 Thread Jon Robson
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Jon Robson <jrob...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Sam asked me to write up my recent adventures with ServiceWorkers and > making requests for MediaWiki content super super fast so all our > lovely users can access information quicker. Right now we're t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Add a Gerrit label "WIP" to mark changes as work in progress

2015-09-14 Thread Jon Robson
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[Wikitech-l] QA: Holding our code to better standards.

2015-09-03 Thread Jon Robson
Dear Greg, and anyone else that is involved in deployment This is a follow-up from Dan Duvall's talk today during the metrics meeting about voting browser tests. Background: The reading web team this quarter with the help of Dan Duvall has made huge strides in our QA infrastructure. The

Re: [Wikitech-l] New RFC: better JS minification

2015-09-03 Thread Jon Robson
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Re: [Wikitech-l] New RFC: better JS minification

2015-09-03 Thread Jon Robson
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Roan Kattouw <roan.katt...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Jon Robson <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks, I thought I was alone with being confused by this e-mail. As >> Jérémie correctly states we'll likely to

[Wikitech-l] Wikivoyage now has extension driven page banners

2015-08-28 Thread Jon Robson
After a successful Google Summer of Code, Sumit (@codezee) on irc with help from Nicolas Raoul of the Wikivoyage editing community and myself, I am excited to announce that Wikivoyage is now using the WikidataPageBanner extension [1]. A bit of back story - the Wwikivoyage community built a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: Let's talk about web performance: August 18th

2015-08-10 Thread Jon Robson
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[Wikitech-l] Measuring performance

2015-07-23 Thread Jon Robson
The reading team are currently focusing energy on speeding up the site for all our users (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98986 is the tracking bug where this work can be followed) Off the back of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105361 I had a quick chat with Ori to document how the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Geolocation and WikiVoyage

2015-07-21 Thread Jon Robson
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia authentication on an external website?

2015-07-20 Thread Jon Robson
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Provide a well-performing API to rotate an image

2015-07-17 Thread Jon Robson
Apologies if I'm missing something but is there any reason why we can't do image rotation on the client using the canvas JavaScript api? On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:45 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Brion Vibber wrote: Allowing override of the thumb rotation would provide you real time

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator tag for bugs in local projects

2015-07-15 Thread Jon Robson
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Performance audit example

2015-07-06 Thread Jon Robson
performance work on the mobile website. https://github.com/reddit/reddit-mobile/issues/247 Awesome stuff. ___ Mobile-l mailing list mobil...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l -- Jon Robson * http

Re: [Wikitech-l] Search engine indexing of userspace - has something changed?

2015-07-06 Thread Jon Robson
the way that search engines index user space? Thanks, Dan -- Dan Garry Product Manager, Discovery Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Jon

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Freedom of Panorama banner campaign breaking mobile

2015-06-30 Thread Jon Robson
cc wikitech (thanks!) On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thanks for the quick reply! :) Yes site notices should be disabled on mobile, but site notices on mobile are currently treated different to central notice banners (rightly or wrongly) so I can only

[Wikitech-l] Freedom of Panorama banner campaign breaking mobile

2015-06-30 Thread Jon Robson
I noticed a banner on the mobile site that renders the site unusable: http://imgur.com/qVGz3mZ I'm not sure who is responsible for Freedom of Panorama in Europe in 2015 but can someone disable this on mobile asap or make it work on mobile? Please also reach out to us on the mobile-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Improving Privacy Policy on Mobile

2015-06-29 Thread Jon Robson
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Jacob I've cc'ed wikitech to get an update on bug https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483 The last update here was in February 2015. I personally think this is one of our most urgent bugs to fix, but it's not clear

[Wikitech-l] Barry the browser bot

2015-06-24 Thread Jon Robson
Some of you may have noticed a bot [1] providing reviews for the Mobilefrontend and Gather extensions. This is a grass routes experiment [2] to see if we can reduce regressions by running browser tests against every single commit. It's very crude, and we're going to have to maintain it but we see

Re: [Wikitech-l] Overriding Jenkins versus make-work patches

2015-06-18 Thread Jon Robson
I also would recommend 2. We had this issue recently with some tweaks Kaldari made to our main menu. Given that lightning deploys happen we really should make master stable always. If Jenkins is barfing on this there may be other extensions out there which will also barf. It also makes rolling

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Mediawiki-i18n] [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

2015-06-08 Thread Jon Robson
/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Mediawiki-i18n mailing list mediawiki-i...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n -- Jon Robson * http://jonrobson.me.uk

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Simplifying the WMF deployment cadence

2015-05-28 Thread Jon Robson
I suspect the idea is to lean more on our quality assurance infrastructure e.g. browser tests which I fully welcome. The more developed they become the less chance of regressions making it to code let alone our projects. When I joined 3 years ago we had no quality assurance infrastructure and

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Simplifying the WMF deployment cadence

2015-05-27 Thread Jon Robson
This is super awesome Greg. Thanks for making this happen. The deployment schedule has always been a huge source of pain for me. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, Starting the week of June 8th we'll be transitioning our MediaWiki + Extensions

Re: [Wikitech-l] Page weight

2015-05-23 Thread Jon Robson
FYI We had a meeting about this today at the wikimedia hackathon specifically for mobile. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98986 On 23 May 2015 9:09 pm, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hoping that this gets to the right people in Engineering:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Hi-DPI/Retina display density bracketing for $.devicePixelRatio()?

2015-05-06 Thread Jon Robson
As stated on the bug I'd like us to get to a point where we don't have to think about this. Ideally a JavaScript dev should be able to create an oojs ui image element that is compatible with this. A server side function should also exist for creating this. On 6 May 2015 6:57 am, Prateek Saxena

Re: [Wikitech-l] GRAPH extension is now live everywhere!

2015-05-06 Thread Jon Robson
/Interaction-Scenarios Project history: Exactly one year ago, Dan Andreescu (milimetric) and Jon Robson demoed Vega visualization grammar https://trifacta.github.io/vega/ usage in MediaWiki. The project stayed dormant for almost half a year, until Zero team decided it was a good solution to do

Re: [Wikitech-l] jQuery UI, opensearch API, categories and autocompletion -- oh my!

2015-05-06 Thread Jon Robson
://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Jack_Phoenix/AutocompleteTest Thanks and regards, -- Jack Phoenix MediaWiki developer ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Jon Robson

Re: [Wikitech-l] Anonymous editing impact on mobile

2015-04-29 Thread Jon Robson
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: snip Any community members interested in helping out here? I'm very sad the increase in errors wasn't picked up sooner... :-/ What does

[Wikitech-l] Anonymous editing impact on mobile

2015-04-28 Thread Jon Robson
Anonymous editing was enabled on mobile web on 30th March 2015 to all users (previous it was available in an experimental mode of the site). Now we have almost a month's worth of data I thought it would be a good time to check the impact... it's a little disappointing to be honest... but it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Anonymous editing impact on mobile

2015-04-28 Thread Jon Robson
/Anne On 28 April 2015 at 20:00, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: Anonymous editing was enabled on mobile web on 30th March 2015 to all users (previous it was available in an experimental mode of the site). Now we have almost a month's worth of data I thought it would be a good

Re: [Wikitech-l] Anonymous editing impact on mobile

2015-04-28 Thread Jon Robson
:) On 28 Apr 2015 8:39 pm, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 April 2015 at 20:00, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: snip Details on the queries I ran: In March for a 26 day period before the change: * 170,948 total edits [1] * 169,845 non-anonymous edits [6

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC and Outreachy results out!

2015-04-27 Thread Jon Robson
Wonderful news! Congrats to all of you. I can't wait to see how you all go about solving all these problems! On 27 Apr 2015 2:17 pm, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Niharika Kohli nko...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello everyone! After a long and intense

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reminder: Breaking change to API continuation planned for 1.26

2015-04-20 Thread Jon Robson
Is there a phab task for that.. ? :-) On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: I use mw.api so I suspect that to handle deprecation notices - does it not? If not why

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reminder: Breaking change to API continuation planned for 1.26

2015-04-20 Thread Jon Robson
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Reminder: Breaking change to API continuation planned for 1.26

2015-04-20 Thread Jon Robson
: On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: It would help to surface api deprecation notices into the JavaScript console just like mw.deprecate does for more visibility. The API can and does already report deprecation warnings, and the way that happens is on my long

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reminder: Breaking change to API continuation planned for 1.26

2015-04-20 Thread Jon Robson
functioning like logins, warnings, continuation, in the way that API devs feel is best, but nothing specific to any of the modules (e.g. it should not have a separate function to get a list of all pages). On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a phab

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lists as first class citizens

2015-04-08 Thread Jon Robson
storey building is in the making. The bazaar is horizontal, a vertical suk is too similar to a cathedral. Nemo ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Jon Robson

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lists as first class citizens

2015-04-08 Thread Jon Robson
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 8, 2015 2:59 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: The main motivation for lists as not being wikipages is so that they can be combined with the recent changes feed and other things stored in the database

[Wikitech-l] Lists as first class citizens

2015-04-02 Thread Jon Robson
I am writing to invite you to preview and hopefully contribute to Gather [1], a new MediaWiki extension that allows users to create, share, and discover lists of articles. Gather is currently available for all users of the mobile site who have opted in to beta. This launch was primarily for the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Thumbnail image hinting in articles via metadata tags

2015-04-02 Thread Jon Robson
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: On 2015-04-02 8:44 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: However there is clearly a desire to be able to identify a representitive image for an article. This need is exhibited across many websites including reddit, facebook,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Thumbnail image hinting in articles via metadata tags

2015-04-02 Thread Jon Robson
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension:Gather launching on beta for English WP mobile users.

2015-03-26 Thread Jon Robson
A few notes: * lists are public in the first version but there is APIs to make them private. Public lists is something that will have moderation problems and interesting to explore. * the feature is _launching_ on mobile. It's built to work on desktop and with a tiny bit of work I can turn it on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension:Gather launching on beta for English WP mobile users.

2015-03-26 Thread Jon Robson
to get this as a desktop beta feature too if anyone is willing to help me. On 26 Mar 2015 7:41 am, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: A few notes: * lists are public in the first version but there is APIs to make them private. Public lists is something that will have moderation problems

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech] VisualEditor on Wikipedia now faster with RESTBase

2015-03-25 Thread Jon Robson
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-19 Thread Jon Robson
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 March 2015 at 11:08, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 Mar 2015 7:55 am, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Danny Horn dh...@wikimedia.org wrote

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-19 Thread Jon Robson
On 19 Mar 2015 7:55 am, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Danny Horn dh...@wikimedia.org wrote: Brad: unfortunately, it's really hard to tell very much from a conversation with messages like 3: Post C: reply to Post A. You could do that with

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-16 Thread Jon Robson
Fiayy! So happy to hear this is happening :) On 16 Mar 2015 17:52, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) nwil...@wikimedia.org wrote: LiquidThreads (LQT) has not been well-supported in a long time. Flow is in active development, and more real-world use-cases will help focus attention on the

Re: [Wikitech-l] server-side HTML templating now live in core

2015-02-25 Thread Jon Robson
Great stuff. cc Wikidata, I know they were interested in replacing their custom template engine... I will respond to Krinkle's review for the client side library today. Jon On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: After 14 months of discussion, HTML

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Phabricator monthly statistics - 2015-01

2015-02-03 Thread Jon Robson
When comparing to Bugzilla rather than bugs open/closed engagement would be a good measure of success e.g. number of replies. I sense more involvement from community members with the LDAP integration since the move which IMO is huge. I personally am creating more bugs there as Phabricator is a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving our code review efficiency

2015-01-29 Thread Jon Robson
at 1:11 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: The average time for code to go from submitted to merged appears to be 29 days over a dataset of 524 patches, excluding all that were written by the L10n bot

[Wikitech-l] Improving our code review efficiency

2015-01-29 Thread Jon Robson
I was really happy to hear Damon, at the MediaWiki Developer Summit, ask us how long we take to code review and whether we had communicated a timeframe in which we promised to do it to our community. He quite rightly stressed that this was vital for the survival of our community. I spoke to one of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving our code review efficiency

2015-01-29 Thread Jon Robson
the most neglected patchsets on each page and encourage people to actually go and review them! On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Introducing: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata search provider for GNOME Shell

2015-01-27 Thread Jon Robson
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata search provider for GNOME Shell

2015-01-27 Thread Jon Robson
-search-provider/ On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Baha! How can I see what this is like without a Gnome environment? On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 6:24 AM, Bahodir Mansurov

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata betalabs

2015-01-22 Thread Jon Robson
/Special:NewProperty and there must be a faster way then manual entry? On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: I can log in as well. On Jan 22, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Are we using http://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/ ? I can't

[Wikitech-l] Wikidata betalabs

2015-01-22 Thread Jon Robson
Are we using http://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/ ? I can't seem to login ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata betalabs

2015-01-22 Thread Jon Robson
, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Are we using http://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/ ? I can't seem to login -- Jon Robson * http://jonrobson.me.uk * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson * @rakugojon ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] OOjs and OOjs UI for on-wiki gadgets

2015-01-14 Thread Jon Robson
LookupInputWidget properly. The suggestions menu is overlaid by other text input widgets, but it works. Il 10/01/2015 17:15, Jon Robson ha scritto: I recently hit the exact same issue. It's a useful widget but has no demos (see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85467) Luckily after a week

Re: [Wikitech-l] extensions tested along core

2015-01-12 Thread Jon Robson
. This should mean fewer problems for QA to find in beta labs. I am all for that. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Jon Robson * http://jonrobson.me.uk * https

Re: [Wikitech-l] OOjs and OOjs UI for on-wiki gadgets

2015-01-10 Thread Jon Robson
I recently hit the exact same issue. It's a useful widget but has no demos (see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85467) Luckily after a week of fiddling Florian and I have two demos that are working. The code in the following patches should help you work out. I understand that Andrew Garret is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Stance on Social Media

2015-01-10 Thread Jon Robson
I smell another Jon/thedj/aude collaboration coming up... :) On 10 Jan 2015 02:27, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 jan. 2015, at 02:10, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: What if we used Wikidata and had an open form of sharing? I could imagine us asking

Re: [Wikitech-l] Stance on Social Media

2015-01-09 Thread Jon Robson
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:27 PM, quiddity pandiculat...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: [...] As far as i can tell, the arguments (on enwiki) usually boil down to: *providing a share this link is a tacit endorsement/free advertisement of a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Stance on Social Media

2015-01-09 Thread Jon Robson
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Gregory Varnum gregory.var...@gmail.com wrote: There is indeed a mighty debate about this. When we discussed the simple idea of a WikiShare extension to post articles on social media sites - it raised a hell storm that I still have war flashbacks from. I'm

Re: [Wikitech-l] Attracting new talent to our projects

2015-01-05 Thread Jon Robson
wrote: On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:30 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Jon Robson wrote: Thoughts? Adding easter eggs sounds like a fairly strange recruitment tactic, but I don't see any harm in trying it out and seeing what happens. It's not totally clear to me what problem we're

Re: [Wikitech-l] Attracting new talent to our projects

2015-01-05 Thread Jon Robson
(and this is my current thinking for an experiment in mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85815 - feel free to move conversation over there if this interests you) On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: I think in my spare time I'll write a patch to test

Re: [Wikitech-l] Attracting new talent to our projects

2015-01-03 Thread Jon Robson
I was thinking more for the movement and specifically curious if this has ever been attempted in the past. If it hasn't it seems like something we should try. On 3 Jan 2015 20:30, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Jon Robson wrote: Recently on https://developer.mozilla.org/ I noticed

[Wikitech-l] Attracting new talent to our projects

2014-12-31 Thread Jon Robson
Recently on https://developer.mozilla.org/ I noticed an easter egg when you pop open the JavaScript console. snip Interested in having a direct impact on hundreds of millions of users? Join Mozilla, and become part of a global community that’s helping to build a brighter future for the Web. snip

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of the Purge extension

2014-12-28 Thread Jon Robson
On 28 Dec 2014 08:16, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Ricordisamoa wrote: It looks like the Purge extension https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Purge for MediaWiki could be very useful to replace many similar gadgets on Wikimedia sites. New users often need to purge the server

Re: [Wikitech-l] Andre's Bugzilla-Phabricator migration analysis

2014-12-19 Thread Jon Robson
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Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2014-12-18 Thread Jon Robson
Okay I had a long hard think about this. I would suggest the following EventLogging experiment on the mobile website: Question to answer: If section collapsing is provided to users in such a way that sections are open by default, do users find the ability to collapse sections a useful feature?

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] MediaWiki flame graphs

2014-12-15 Thread Jon Robson
These are pretty cool. I'd love to see a mobile specific one: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78621 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Aaron Schulz asch...@wikimedia.org wrote: Cool! On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm writing to draw your attention to

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2014-12-11 Thread Jon Robson
I think we should explore this. I don't think this is about extra clicks... On tablets like desktop we expand sections by default but __allow___ them to be collapsible. It would be interesting to add some event logging to see how widely used that feature is on tablet. It could thus also be useful

Re: [Wikitech-l] You'll likely get a bunch of Diffusion e-mails

2014-12-10 Thread Jon Robson
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Re: [Wikitech-l] changing edit summaries

2014-11-13 Thread Jon Robson
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Mobile article preview gadget

2014-10-14 Thread Jon Robson
This is cool although I'm not sure how I feel about. This is not just a mobile problem, this is a skin problem. In the distant future, I would hope after Trevor's work on the skin system we would have a much healthier ecosystem of skins which work nicely in both mobile and desktop mode. If Vector

[Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Jon Robson
On mobile we continuously get bugs related to inline styles in templates. For example: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68001 When these happen we usually spend time investigating, discover it is because of a troublesome inline style in the template and then we communicate this on

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Jon Robson
(See also https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35704 for lots of examples of broken template/css combos) On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: On mobile we continuously get bugs related to inline styles in templates. For example: https

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Jon Robson
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a techguide anywhere on how to style templates to avoid mobile problems? There are a few notes here -

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Jon Robson
The wiki way is not to ask and wait for someone else to act, but to act directly in good faith and communicate what you did and why so that if there is disagreement it can be resolved afterwards. Sadly I only have template edit rights on my staff account and I really don't like using that

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Jon Robson
that there are thousands of these kinds of templates, I will also echo Brion! We need to make mobile testing more visible to those who are creating those templates. Dan On 7 October 2014 15:14, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Jon Robson
On 7 Oct 2014 18:15, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 7 Oct 2014 18:03, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: Jon, Regarding editing specific templates, I'll echo Brion here. If a template is causing difficulties for your work and you feel like you know enough to fix

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] OOjs, MobileFrontend and Flow

2014-09-19 Thread Jon Robson
some commonality between mobile's overlays. [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71075 [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71076 On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: Update: Since these changes touch every single bit of mobile's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who maintains ConfirmEdit core part?

2014-09-15 Thread Jon Robson
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Re: [Wikitech-l] OOjs, MobileFrontend and Flow

2014-09-12 Thread Jon Robson
://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159552 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159555 Switch to using OO.inheritClass: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/159553 After this is done it would be good to sit down and document ways we can make better use of OOJS in mobile. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sudden growth of unreviewed changesets in Gerrit

2014-09-12 Thread Jon Robson
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Re: [Wikitech-l] OOjs, MobileFrontend and Flow

2014-09-09 Thread Jon Robson
=enmodules=ext.mantle%7Cext.mantle.hogan%2Cmodules%2Coo%2Ctemplates%7Cjqu…:68(anonymous function) Not sure if this is an issue with OOJS or the patch Roan made for us. Any ideas VE guys? [1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/129336/ On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Jon Robson jrob

Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of skins

2014-09-09 Thread Jon Robson
1) Trevor is going to build a watch star widget on client and server. We identified that the existing watch star code is poorly written and has resulted in MobileFrontend rewriting it. We decided to target this as it is a simple enough example that it doesn't need a template. It's small and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Standardising icons across projects

2014-09-09 Thread Jon Robson
1) Monte to explore using SVGs in the Wikipedia apps. He will create font from SVGs. He will work with May to ensure her workflow is as easy as before. Monte any updates on this? 2) Trevor is going to look into how we can automatically generate different colour versions of SVGs and

Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of skins

2014-09-04 Thread Jon Robson
Sure, we are still keen to see the RFC resolved, we just worry that it is not progressing at the speed we would like. It's not a case of ignoring it but a case of not letting ourselves be blocked on it whilst we have momentum. I was merely stating that we are not afraid of continuing down the

Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of skins

2014-09-04 Thread Jon Robson
than when I tested it in MobileFrontend, so it would be good to give it another trial run (and a 2nd opinion). On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:25 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, we are still keen to see the RFC resolved, we just worry that it is not progressing at the speed we

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