Re: [Wikitech-l] Captcha for non-English speakers II

2012-07-28 Thread Platonides
On 28/07/12 16:55, Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote: In the conclusion: Contrary to the common belief, text-based CAPTCHAs can be difficult for foreigners. It is worth reading and likely the same for references there in. The first sentence is similar to what I have experience in 3 classes.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Criteria for serious alternative

2012-07-27 Thread Platonides
Chad wrote: Also, if anyone tells me that upstream is not active enough, I ask you to please look at a commit I made 2 days ago[0]. I know it wasn't earth- shattering, or even really important. What was important, is that it was reviewed and merged in *less than a minute* without any action

Re: [Wikitech-l] Captcha for non-English speakers II

2012-07-27 Thread Platonides
On 27/07/12 16:31, Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote: 2012/7/26 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com: Thet don't need to read English. They just need to type the letters they see on the image. Sure, you can have a small advantage if you know what letters could make a valid English word (or if you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with saving edits

2012-07-26 Thread Platonides
On 26/07/12 09:29, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Let's guess, you're using Chrome/Chromium over HTTPS? Not much to do besides changing browser. https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=109555 Nemo Editing doesn't require XMLHttpRequests.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Laptop setup guide for future Hackathons

2012-07-26 Thread Platonides
Nice. Some comments: - It doesn't check if you already have php 5.4 installed - It doesn't believe you may not want to install it: Install PHP in ~/.mediawiki/php [y/N]: N Downloading PHP 5.4- using wget --2012-07-27 03:06:23-- http://snaps.php.net/php5.4-latest.tar.gz (...) - The 'latest'

Re: [Wikitech-l] Captcha for non-English speakers II

2012-07-26 Thread Platonides
On 26/07/12 15:53, Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote: Hi all, how are you? I'd like to know about the possibility of solving an old issue with CAPTCHA for Wikipedias in languages other than English. This bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5309 was created in 2006. There

Re: [Wikitech-l] Serious alternatives to Gerrit

2012-07-25 Thread Platonides
On 25/07/12 19:49, Ryan Lane wrote: None of these issues are Gerrit specific. You are complaining about the switch from svn to git. Yes, we know there was productivity lost in the switchover. We're discussing alternatives to git, not the switchover, though. - Ryan We're discussing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Serious alternatives to Gerrit

2012-07-25 Thread Platonides
On 25/07/12 06:09, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: == A couple open questions == * What's the FLOSS project on GitHub that's most like us, in terms of size, number of unique repositories, privacy concerns, robustness needs, and so on? How are they dealing with these issues? I think php project.

Re: [Wikitech-l] suggestion: replace CAPTCHA with better approaches

2012-07-24 Thread Platonides
On 24/07/12 16:11, matanya wrote: As for the last few month the spam rate stewards deal with is raising. Can you provide references? What is the basis of the spam/work to do? Maybe we could make their lives easier through creating a new tool, or better anti-spam measures. I suggest we

Re: [Wikitech-l] Category Internacionalization.

2012-07-24 Thread Platonides
El 24/07/12 19:45, Mauricio Etchevest escribió: Hi ! I'm working on a extension for Media Wiki. And I need to detect when a categorization is made on an article. So I search for the annotation with the keyword category but, then I need to detect categorizations in other languages.How can

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upload files: a simple progress bar ?

2012-07-22 Thread Platonides
On 22/07/12 15:16, Dmitriy Sintsov wrote: On 22.07.2012 16:07, Chad wrote: Your browser status bar. It's told me the progress of my uploads for 10+ years now. Only Chrome shows precise and smoothly updated percentage of POST upload data sent in status bar. Firefox requires some addon for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Serious alternatives to Gerrit

2012-07-20 Thread Platonides
On 20/07/12 08:50, Antoine Musso wrote: Platonides wrote: What I have trouble with is in imagining the UI for reviewing a topic branch, with perhaps several commits per step. To me the concept of topic is to lamely tag a commit as being part of specific area of code such as API, Parser

Re: [Wikitech-l] Serious alternatives to Gerrit

2012-07-19 Thread Platonides
+1 to Subramanya. Roan Kattouw wrote: Although squashing and amending has downsides, there is also an advantage: now that Jenkins is set up properly for mediawiki/core.git , we will never put commits in master that don't pass the tests. With the fixup commit model, intermediate commits often

Re: [Wikitech-l] Serious alternatives to Gerrit

2012-07-18 Thread Platonides
On 18/07/12 02:41, Rob Lanphier wrote: Hi everyone, It appears as though the discussion has continued apace for the Gerrit evaluation process: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_evaluation Thank you everyone for chipping in so far. The current format is a mix of talk page and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Serious alternatives to Gerrit

2012-07-18 Thread Platonides
On 19/07/12 00:48, Marcin Cieslak wrote: You can play live with the ORM mapper for example and retrieve Java objects from the database (not just rows). //Saper I'm not really convinced into playing with the database when not even the database structure is easily readable (it is derived from

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to display the title with underscores?

2012-07-16 Thread Platonides
On 16/07/12 11:28, wangfeng wangfeng wrote: Yes, I have set $wgAllowDisplayTitle = true; in LocalSettings.php. If you want [[A B C]] to show as a_b_c, you will need $wgRestrictDisplayTitle = false; since [[a b c]] is a different article. However, you can show [[A b c]] as a_b_c with the given

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article revision numbers

2012-07-16 Thread Platonides
On 17/07/12 00:22, Adam Wight wrote: Hello comrades, I've run into a challenge too interesting to keep to myself ;) My immediate goal is to prototype an offline wikipedia, similar to Kiwix, which allows the end-user to make edits and synchronize them back to a central repository like enwiki.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article revision numbers

2012-07-16 Thread Platonides
On 17/07/12 01:49, Adam Wight wrote: Actually, the revision table allows for non-linear development (it stores from which version you edited the article). You could even make to win a version different than the one with the latest timestamp (by changing page_rev) one. You will need to change

Re: [Wikitech-l] [[Template:WikimediaDownload]]

2012-07-15 Thread Platonides
On 15/07/12 13:06, K. Peachey wrote: *Sigh* I have already told people not to break the template like this previously. Someone (since i'm too tired to even log into mw wiki atm) should revert that template change. I fixed it by changing the template to {{WikimediaDownload|server=svn}} on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata: Splitting the Cache by Language

2012-07-13 Thread Platonides
On 13/07/12 20:42, Daniel Kinzler wrote: But it's my impression that the mechanism for user-language specific parser cache keys is currently broken. Or we did something wrong to break it. Is there some documentation on this? I'm especially interested in: b) how

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata: Splitting the Cache by Language

2012-07-12 Thread Platonides
On 10/07/12 19:28, Daniel Kinzler wrote: Hi all! At the hackathon in DC, I have been discussing options for caching Wikidata content with a few people, primarily RobLa and Ryan Lane. Here's a quick overview of the problem, and what I took away from the conversation. So, what we need is

Re: [Wikitech-l] overprinting wikipedia table

2012-07-09 Thread Platonides
On 09/07/12 02:56, Chad wrote: On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:53 PM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: The table on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_family#See_also overprints itself even with CTRL+0 zoom, not to mention what happens when one hits CTRL+. Works for me, pretty sure this isn't

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reimplementing the info action

2012-07-09 Thread Platonides
On 09/07/12 23:28, MZMcBride wrote: Hi. I've written an RFC about reimplementing the info action: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Reimplement_info_action Without objection, I'll start filing the relevant bugs regarding this RFC in a week or so. MZMcBride Looks

Re: [Wikitech-l] git commit history

2012-07-07 Thread Platonides
On 02/07/12 09:30, Krinkle wrote: Yep, this happens whenever a change is merged from the gerrit interface. What we use locally to pull from gerrit doesn't influence the repository. Also, one doesn't need `git pull --rebase` if you work in a topic branch instead of master (which everybody

Re: [Wikitech-l] git bisect and merge commits [Was Re: Bug 37225: Several history entries for the same content and watchlists showing wrong article size changes ]

2012-07-07 Thread Platonides
The problem is that we can't reproduce it. Otherwise we would have already found the problematic commit (yes, git bisect would be able to). It probably only happens with lagged slaves and many people editing at the same time. I have already studied the commits in that range, but none of them

Re: [Wikitech-l] Barkeep code review tool

2012-07-03 Thread Platonides
I have explored how to make a gerrit-substitute and it doesn't seem that hard. Initially, I planned to base on gitloite, but its workflow doesn't suit with gerrit. Basically, you would use a hook to rewrite the push references, and then run a script to register it in the db and UI (I did some

Re: [Wikitech-l] Speed up tests, make @group Database smarter

2012-07-02 Thread Platonides
On 01/07/12 13:49, Christian Aistleitner wrote: One might think so, yes. But as I said, one would mock /above/ the SQL layer. For typical database operations, SQL would not even get generated in the first place! Consider for example code containing $db-insert( $param1, $param2, ... );

Re: [Wikitech-l] Offline Sandbox, IP address limit, etc.

2012-07-02 Thread Platonides
On 02/07/12 18:56, Butch Bustria wrote: Thanks for that info. We will do that thing in the future. Hopefully there could be a development of an offline sandbox for Wikipedia starters. Developing countries need those especially in areas with little, or no stable internet connection. You can

Re: [Wikitech-l] New, lower traffic, announcements only email list for Wikimedia developers

2012-06-30 Thread Platonides
On 30/06/12 07:23, Gregory Varnum wrote: wikitech-announce will be used for occasional announcements on both MediaWiki and broader Wikimedia developer related news items How does the new wikitech-announce compare with the existing wikitech-ambassadors? They both seem to have a similar

Re: [Wikitech-l] Speed up tests, make @group Database smarter

2012-06-30 Thread Platonides
On 30/06/12 14:24, Christian Aistleitner wrote: In our case, Object A is the object we want to test. B is an implementation of DatabaseBase. B' is a mock implementation of DatabaseBase. C is the load balancer / wfGetDB(...) / ... whatever layer you choose. Typically, mocking the database is

Re: [Wikitech-l] StripState and ampersands?

2012-06-29 Thread Platonides
On 29/06/12 21:42, Daniel Barrett wrote: How can I prevent this conversion so ampersands (and presumably other special characters) are preserved? Followup up my own question: StripState is not relevant here. It's the fact that it's a parser tag extension. Simply returning in the callback

Re: [Wikitech-l] Today's git master

2012-06-29 Thread Platonides
On 29/06/12 22:41, Marcin Cieslak wrote: $ git reset --hard HEAD is now at de13c31 Actually we have many contributors $ Chad, you made my day:) //Saper Great commit! https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13449 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Speed up tests, make @group Database smarter

2012-06-28 Thread Platonides
Am 28/06/12 01:41, Christian Aistleitner schrieb: Hi Daniel, On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 09:59:19PM +0200, Daniel Kinzler wrote: * MediaWikiTestCase will notice this group and use temporary tables instead of the wiki database's actual tables. The temporary tables are re-created for every

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sorry if inconvenient : SVG-to-png rendering on Wikimedia

2012-06-28 Thread Platonides
It is not an SVG! It is a band-width problem, in this case. I needed about 10 minutes real-time to download this image at full-size to my computer, but can work anyway in parallel. Vector-grafics should have been FAR MORE compressibale then jpeg or other snapshots from random/real-word

Re: [Wikitech-l] Speed up tests, make @group Database smarter

2012-06-27 Thread Platonides
On 27/06/12 21:59, Daniel Kinzler wrote: If we decide to do this, there should be some way to define and re-create the initial contents of the read-only database. Perhaps a maintenance script that other parts of the code (and extensions) can register with could do the trick. What do you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline styles trouble on the mobile site

2012-06-27 Thread Platonides
On 27/06/12 20:39, Jon Robson wrote: Bump... does anyone have any objections to this experiment? Jon Seems my reply didn't go through the mailing list. Resending: I guess you could add a ?stripinlinepagestyles=0 parameter. That would allow to test for pages sanity in that mode (or

Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline styles trouble on the mobile site

2012-06-27 Thread Platonides
On 27/06/12 20:39, Jon Robson wrote: Bump... does anyone have any objections to this experiment? Jon Seems my reply didn't go through the mailing list. Resending: I guess you could add a ?stripinlinepagestyles=0 parameter. That would allow to test for pages sanity in that mode (or

Re: [Wikitech-l] I hate to be that guy

2012-06-27 Thread Platonides
On 27/06/12 22:34, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: 2012/6/27 Derric Atzrott: So I hate to be that guy who doesn't know the simple things It's a cliche, but it's important: there are no stupid questions. Ask more. You're welcome to ask, Derric. I thought the topic was going to be compeltely different

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making language selection sticky

2012-06-27 Thread Platonides
On 27/06/12 11:43, Denny Vrandečić wrote: 2012/6/26 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com: On 26/06/12 18:48, Denny Vrandečić wrote: We tried to change the linker in order to add the uselang parameter every time -- but it only works in the content, not in the sidebar and actionlinks. We could put

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sorry if inconvenient : SVG-to-png rendering on Wikimedia

2012-06-27 Thread Platonides
On 27/06/12 14:09, Achim Flammenkamp wrote: I dislike to be piggy, but thus they are NOT. Only if smaller than 800x600! I did not know that this is a default wikimedia-limit (which a user can change). And it would be also possible (whether useful we can discuss) to remove this restriction

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sorry if incovienent : SVG-to-png rendering on Wikimedia

2012-06-26 Thread Platonides
So, the aspect ratio is right. Your problem is that you want it to be a perfect multiple of 7:4. (...) Detailed explanation at example: If there is a SVG-file on wikimedia, some fixed logic generates png-images for the flag's description page generally. The first image, here 800 × 457, is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making language selection sticky

2012-06-26 Thread Platonides
On 26/06/12 18:48, Denny Vrandečić wrote: Hi all, we are trying to let users switch their language - whether they are logged in or not - through a language selector. This can be either the ULS, which is progressing impressively, or just a list of languages in the sidebar, or anything else.

Re: [Wikitech-l] SVG-to-png rendering on Wikimedia

2012-06-26 Thread Platonides
On 26/06/12 22:24, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: There are some *real* issues with the rendering on Commons -- especially SVGs -- and it looks like the thumbnail on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Iran.svg from 20:14, 21 June 2012 (http://hexm.de/jg) shows the real issue here. Tha

Re: [Wikitech-l] bot activity in #mediawiki on freenode

2012-06-23 Thread Platonides
On 23/06/12 20:34, Petr Bena wrote: Yes, the bots are useful for devs, that's the reason why we made them and there is a little point to argue about that. But they aren't useful for other users of #mediawiki especially users who seek help. IMHO #mediawiki should be used for development (bots

Re: [Wikitech-l] bot activity in #mediawiki on freenode

2012-06-22 Thread Platonides
On 22/06/12 05:46, Petr Bena wrote: I have never seen any such a channel for user support and developers which is getting flooded like this one. It's nearly unusable for people who are seeking help with mediawiki. If you really want to keep the bots in channel, we should create #mediawiki-help

Re: [Wikitech-l] New committer

2012-06-22 Thread Platonides
On 22/06/12 02:59, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: I just gave Alex Monk (krenair) Subversion commit access to extensions, because he wanted to work on a couple of things that are still in SVN. His past contributions:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Relations with freenode and wikimedia

2012-06-21 Thread Platonides
Faidon wrote: Setting up and properly maintaining an IRC network is extremely complicated. We really *really* shouldn't do that, esp. since there is no reason for us to do so, when there are other open networks around. freenode servers are hosted, not maintained. Which means, they want the

Re: [Wikitech-l] bot activity in #mediawiki on freenode

2012-06-21 Thread Platonides
On 21/06/12 22:42, K. Peachey wrote: I would prefer to see wikibugs stay in #mw to be honest, There is sometimes support stuff in there, as well as other important stuff. I'm sure people don't want to be flicking IRC channels every X, and wikibugs wasn't that high of traffic either... Me too.

Re: [Wikitech-l] 'deleterevision' permission also allows deleting / suppressing log entries

2012-06-21 Thread Platonides
On 20/06/12 17:28, Tim Weyer (SVG) wrote: 'deleterevision' in its function of deleting revisions of a page or removing IP/username/comment is what I want it to be only. And if you tell it masking or suppressing is not a big difference. Okay, you only suppress the content of the log entry, so

Re: [Wikitech-l] 3 million null edits

2012-06-19 Thread Platonides
On 19/06/12 10:00, Maarten Dammers wrote: Hi guys, There must be an alternative for https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Bots/Work_requests#3_million_null_edits right? But what is it? Maarten That probably explains the high thumbnail purge rate detected yesterday. AaronSchulz was

Re: [Wikitech-l] maybe just visiting one will be enough to keep me notified about the rest?

2012-06-19 Thread Platonides
On 19/06/12 03:46, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: I got four mails page Manual:RemoveUnusedAccounts.php has been changed by Sumanah page Manual:LocalSettings.php has been changed by KrenairBot page Manual:Edit.php has been changed by KrenairBot page Manual:GetText.php has been changed

Re: [Wikitech-l] 'deleterevision' permission also allows deleting / suppressing log entries

2012-06-18 Thread Platonides
Wait. Tim are you refering to hide entries at history tab, or hide entries at Special:Log? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki to Latex Converter

2012-06-16 Thread Platonides
On 16/06/12 10:51, Dirk Hünniger wrote: This problem is actually sovled there is an easy way to export mediawiki articles to LaTeX and PDF. see http://de.wikibooks.org/wiki/Benutzer:Dirk_Huenniger/wb2pdf Yours Dirk Hünniger How does it compare with

Re: [Wikitech-l] Database replication

2012-06-16 Thread Platonides
On 16/06/12 14:26, Antoine Musso wrote: I've heard that there is some automatic handling for this, so that editors for example see the latest version of Article after saving it. But apparently there is no such thing, or at least it doesn't kick in automatically. We had that issue at one

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki to Latex Converter

2012-06-16 Thread Platonides
On 16/06/12 12:25, Dirk Hünniger wrote: On 06/16/2012 12:03 PM, Svip wrote: Interesting, but why is it so large? Is the source code available? The source code is available here http://wb2pdf.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wb2pdf/ The Binary is large because it contains everything necessery

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki to Latex Converter

2012-06-16 Thread Platonides
On 16/06/12 19:14, Dirk Hünniger wrote: On 06/16/2012 06:49 PM, Platonides wrote: Have you heard of dependencies?You have to download a 364M file, which extracts to 898MOf those 94M are Linux-specific. The rest includes miktex files, objectfiles, dlls, exes, imagemagick, tcl/tk, Olson db

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE7 tax

2012-06-15 Thread Platonides
On 15/06/12 14:06, David Gerard wrote: !--[if lte IE 7] style * {font-family: Comic Sans;} /style ![endif]-- - d. » Yes, I switched to IE because I liked better the typeface it was showing the pages... ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] who can merge into core/master?

2012-06-15 Thread Platonides
On 15/06/12 17:48, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: Just have *one* page for all requests. gerrit account, group membership, project ownership, gerrit repo... one request queue, at least for all things that need feedback/voting They have different needs. - project ownership is watched by many

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upcoming cultural heritage hackathon, autumn 2012 in Denmark

2012-06-15 Thread Platonides
On 14/06/12 21:56, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: It's now planned for October 5-6. It would be great for European Wikimedia experts to go and teach people about the MediaWiki API, uploading tools, Commons gadgets, and so on. That's the weekend after the closing of WLM 2012 contest.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-09 Thread Platonides
This thread has drifted from IPv6 deployment to showing IP addresses of edits is bad. Please open a new thread if you want to continue discussing it. And be prepared to justify why is it so evil to show the IP address of the author of an edit. IPs magically disappear if you just open an account.

Re: [Wikitech-l] External links statistics

2012-06-09 Thread Platonides
On 09/06/12 21:11, Lars Aronsson wrote: Should I submit my script (300 lines of Perl) somewhere? Yes. Probably somewhere at svn.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/trunk/tools I had the impression that SVN was replaced by Git, but perhaps that's just for MediaWiki core? It's where we have some similar

Re: [Wikitech-l] External links statistics

2012-06-08 Thread Platonides
On 08/06/12 19:00, Lars Aronsson wrote: One problem is that I can't see which namespaces are content namespaces in any of the database dumps. I can only see this from the API, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=querymeta=siteinfosiprop=namespaces The API only provides the current

Re: [Wikitech-l] Generalizing interwiki and interlanguage storage

2012-06-08 Thread Platonides
On 08/06/12 17:32, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Hey, I am looking into generalizing how interwiki and interlanguage links are stored. The motivation for this is because what's currently there does not allow holding the information needed to have Wikidata work. Before I continue work on this (ie

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki tarballs and the WMF

2012-06-07 Thread Platonides
On 07/06/12 00:53, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: I'd happily add hooks they needed to remove the need of patching for MediaWiki packagers, or including a script to move if that's what they really want. Packaging is happening right now. Look at the patches they're making here:

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Announcement: Adam Wight joins Wikimedia as Fundraising Engineer

2012-06-07 Thread Platonides
On 07/06/12 20:35, Arthur Richards wrote: Welcome Adam, it's great to have you aboard :) Welcome, Adam Wight. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-07 Thread Platonides
On 07/06/12 16:04, Brad Jorsch wrote: At the very least, all pywikipedia bots on the toolserver will edit over IPv6 - and I think a lot of the non-pywikipedia bots also, unless they resolve IP addresses manually. Of course, they won't edit anonymously, so you'll only see it in the access logs.

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki tarballs and the WMF

2012-06-06 Thread Platonides
On 06/06/12 20:29, Chad wrote: Well since we introduced a CLI installer, it should make the process much cleaner for people packaging the wiki. I don't know what work has been done (if any), but the groundwork's been laid on our end. The other big complaint we've had over time is moving

Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline styles trouble on the mobile site

2012-06-05 Thread Platonides
On 05/06/12 17:37, Lars Aronsson wrote: On 2012-06-05 14:16, Jon Robson wrote: I still think inline styles are going to continue causing problems on the mobile site as many people creating articles may only me thinking in terms of how a page will look in desktop rather than mobile. It could

Re: [Wikitech-l] Give create gerrit repo right to all WMF engineers

2012-06-05 Thread Platonides
On 01/06/12 17:41, Chad wrote: I did make a new Project Creators group that I'm more than willing to add people to, once they've learned Gerrit permissions. In addition, unless you make a group you're in the owner of the repo (which can't be done via the GUI, only the CLI--this is a bug),

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making MW aware of 'view types'

2012-06-02 Thread Platonides
On 02/06/12 10:04, Brion Vibber wrote: I think there's two main parts to this: chrome and content. Chrome is usually skin-provided stuff like the menus, sidebars, etc -- and we rearrange that dramatically for mobile, hide it for print, etc. The existing skin system seems to be able to handle

Re: [Wikitech-l] git review version update, May 2012

2012-05-26 Thread Platonides
On 26/05/12 20:02, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: `git review' says that a new version of git-review is availble on PyPI. The last update created some unwanted surprises, so I decided to avoid updating it for now. What do our Git experts suggest? Thank you, It has been telling me that for a long

[Wikitech-l] Desktop upload tool

2012-05-25 Thread Platonides
As some of you are already aware, I'm doing for this GSoC a Desktop tool for conveniently uploading images to commons. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wikilovesmonuments/2641 How can you help with this? a) Propose a cool name for this tool b) Suggest new functionalities/requisites

Re: [Wikitech-l] Desktop upload tool

2012-05-25 Thread Platonides
On 25/05/12 17:55, John wrote: One thing I have done quite a bit of was Image modification. Everything from watermark removal to coping to rotating. When Im on a spur of watermark removal, it would be awesome if I could just point the program to a directory of fixed files, set a upload summary

Re: [Wikitech-l] about bots

2012-05-25 Thread Platonides
The cu_changes table is not at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout because it's provided by an extension. The rc_bot marks if it's an edit marked as bot. As you have discovered, a bot can make edits not marked as bot (furthermore, as it is only stored in recentchanges table,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Adding a table in a test class

2012-05-25 Thread Platonides
On 25/05/12 23:47, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Hey, I have some test class in which I need to (temporary) add a table. I did some stuff that works locally for my (just constructing some SQL and passing it to wfGetDb()-safeQuery) but it fails on Jenkins, presumably because it's using SQLLite or

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTMLMultiSelectField as select multiple=multiple/

2012-05-23 Thread Platonides
On 23/05/12 19:16, Daniel Werner wrote: Right now I am implementing a new option (as part of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36425) for which I'd like to use a select multiple=multiple/ html element with options. Right now MediaWiki always generates a list of selectboxes instead

Re: [Wikitech-l] The bugtracker problem, again

2012-05-22 Thread Platonides
On 22/05/12 01:34, Thehelpfulone wrote: I thought all users had editbugs, but there are 15525 users in total and 14573 users in the editbugs group. I imagine this right assigning must be automatic, so does anyone know why there's a discrepancy between those numbers? It stopped being

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cry for help from translatewiki.net

2012-05-20 Thread Platonides
On 20/05/12 19:15, Jeremy Baron wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: PS: Here's the default review rules http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/source/browse/gerrit-server/src/main/prolog/gerrit_common.p Make that

Re: [Wikitech-l] gerrit-wm continuing to flood in #mediawiki

2012-05-20 Thread Platonides
See http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23mediawiki/20120520.txt at [19:45:57] for the issue. It reported 64 L10n-bot patchsets in ~8 minutes. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cry for help from translatewiki.net

2012-05-20 Thread Platonides
On 20/05/12 18:38, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Thinking about it, it would be nice to have a working post-commit review workflow like we used to have, for those projects where gated trunk does not work due to lack of quick review. Cheers gerrit seems to be all for pre-review, yet I think we

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Mediawiki-api] UploadWizard campaign info API format

2012-05-20 Thread Platonides
On 20/05/12 23:10, Brion Vibber wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think it should contain all campaign parameters as a single tag, as parameters. Specially evil is the licensesOwnWork=cc-by-sa-3.0|cc-by-3.0|cc-zero. The data's stored

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making www.wikipedia.org mobile friendly

2012-05-18 Thread Platonides
On 18/05/12 17:54, Raylton P. Sousa wrote: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ That's a different site. He's talking about the portal with links to the different editions. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Mediawiki-api] UploadWizard campaign info API format

2012-05-17 Thread Platonides
On 17/05/12 00:36, Brion Vibber wrote: I'm adding an API module to retrieve UploadWizard upload campaign information, which we need for the upcoming mobile application for Wiki Loves Monuments. Essentially the app will include a very limited implementation of a couple steps of UploadWizard for

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update

2012-05-17 Thread Platonides
On 17/05/12 14:23, Ariel T. Glenn wrote: There's a few other reasons articles get deleted: copyright issues, personal identifying data, etc. This makes maintaning the sort of mirror you propose problematic, although a similar mirror is here:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Stance on PHP namespaces?

2012-05-17 Thread Platonides
Wouldn't that make it incompatible with hiphop? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] The bugtracker problem, again

2012-05-15 Thread Platonides
On 14/05/12 18:19, Risker wrote: Martijn is on to something here. I write as a non-developer who has identified bugs and has been pressed to report them via Bugzilla, despite the fact that I feel very much out of my depth there. For those of us who can report problems but not solve them

Re: [Wikitech-l] how to remove the Permanent link of Toolbox?

2012-05-15 Thread Platonides
On 15/05/12 05:34, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: What is the new way in LocalSettings.php to remove the Permanent link of the Toolbox on every page? My old way stopped working upon git upgrade. Last week some people posted some untested answers that did not work. Why not CSS?

Re: [Wikitech-l] The bugtracker problem, again

2012-05-14 Thread Platonides
Much appreciated, Daniel. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CSS Janus License

2012-05-13 Thread Platonides
On 12/05/12 00:18, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: While the license sounds like it is Public Domain that can cause problems in various places. Also in trying to find the code that is referenced.. (snook.ca) I could not find a copy to see what its license was. The second site doesn't recommend

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CSS Janus License

2012-05-13 Thread Platonides
On 12/05/12 00:18, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: Also in trying to find the code that is referenced.. (snook.ca) I could not find a copy to see what its license was. The second site doesn't recommend that code anymore but recommends a GPL2+ updated version. I see

Re: [Wikitech-l] The bugtracker problem, again

2012-05-13 Thread Platonides
On 12/05/12 18:17, David Gerard wrote: Discussion on Oliver Keyes' blog: http://quominus.org/archives/714 He's coming from the perspective of liaison with newbies. Read the comments. I have to say it's the first time I met him. I'll try to summarise his points below with my comments:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia MediaWiki configuration files are now in a public version control system

2012-05-09 Thread Platonides
*Cheers* That also allows us, poor mortals to directly provide patches to them, which is awesome. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] The most efficient approach to patchset dependencies

2012-05-07 Thread Platonides
On 07/05/12 10:26, Beau wrote: I prefer making small changes, so it is easy to review and test them. However due to not clearly determined order of merging changes I have no idea what should I choose as my baseline. I prefer to avoid solving merge conflicts with myself. This usually happens

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lua: parser interface

2012-05-02 Thread Platonides
Is it possible to hook Lua function calls? If so, I'd make a template expansion a call to a function with that name. That was the interface I envisioned when thinking how I'd do it if making the language from scratch to suit wikitext (I drafted some code, but didn't reach to a barely mature

Re: [Wikitech-l] 22 new extensions in Git

2012-04-27 Thread Platonides
On 27/04/12 22:12, Chad wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: Is there a simple way to get an overview, which extensions are in git ? You could look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-extensions.txt or

Re: [Wikitech-l] Commits IDs, change IDs, legacy change IDs, oh my!

2012-04-26 Thread Platonides
On 25/04/12 23:37, Krinkle wrote: == Gerrit change numbers == - Specific to gerrit, requires gerrit to get/resolve them (might become problematic in long-term if we drop gerrit) - Not usable in git cli * One id per change set, not per patch/commit/amend + Easy to link in bugzilla (gerrit(

Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for Comments: Cross site data access for Wikidata

2012-04-23 Thread Platonides
On 23/04/12 14:45, Daniel Kinzler wrote: *#* if we only update language links, the page doesn't even need to be re-parsed: we just update the languagelinks in the cached ParserOutput object. It's not that simple, for instance, they may be several ParserOutputs for the same page. On the bright

Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for Comments: Cross site data access for Wikidata

2012-04-23 Thread Platonides
On 23/04/12 18:42, Daniel Kinzler wrote: On 23.04.2012 17:28, Platonides wrote: On 23/04/12 14:45, Daniel Kinzler wrote: *#* if we only update language links, the page doesn't even need to be re-parsed: we just update the languagelinks in the cached ParserOutput object. It's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for Comments: Cross site data access for Wikidata

2012-04-23 Thread Platonides
Am 23/04/12 19:34, Daniel Kinzler schrieb: You think making a db query to check if the data is up to date, every time the page is *viewed*, is feasible? I would have though this prohibitively expensive... it would be nice and simple, of course. The approach of marking the rendered page data

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developing MediaWiki extension for WebGL-enabled interactive 3D models

2012-04-22 Thread Platonides
On 22/04/12 15:54, emw wrote: A small script that hooks into GIMP API methods is used to tidy up PNGs output by the PyMOL molecular visualization program. The PyMOL images are originally output with a lot of extraneous whitespace. Specifically, the script takes in a PNG and outputs an

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