Re: [Wikitech-l] chanfing main page articles from drop down. help required

2010-08-03 Thread Platonides
Noman wrote: Hi, i've installed mediawiki for a wiki project. now we have 4 sections on main page . like there are on wikipedia main page. Now as its done in wikipedia these 4 boxes are tables and update on date criteria. Now i want to do is to give some kind a navigation bar like drop

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki version statistics

2010-08-02 Thread Platonides
Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Would it not be enough to hash all extensions on the distributor side, and to check the hash sum on the client side using https for the connection? I guess this would suffice for ensuring integrity, but what about the other distribution meta-data? Where to get it from,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developing true WISIWYG editor for media wiki

2010-08-02 Thread Platonides
Павел Петроченко wrote: Hi guys, At the moment we are discussing an opportunity to create full scale true WYSIWYG client for media wiki. To the moment we have a technology which should allow us to implement with a good quality and quite fast. Unfortunately we are not sure if there is a

[Wikitech-l] About moving (was: Showing bytes added/removed in each edit in View history and User contributions)

2010-08-02 Thread Platonides
Roan Kattouw wrote: 2010/8/2 Aryeh Gregor: That I don't know. I don't know if descriptions of the Usability Initiative's studies are all public, or what. Maybe one of them could fill us in. There are videos around, yes, but I'm not sure we have reports. Digging around on usabilitywiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikipedia is one of the slower sites on the web

2010-08-01 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: Look, this is just not a useful solution, period. It would be extremely ineffective. If you extended the permitted staleness level so much that it would be moderately effective, it would be useless, because you'd be seeing hours- or days-old articles. On the other hand,

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki version statistics

2010-08-01 Thread Platonides
Edward Z. Yang wrote: We've noticed several things: - When Wordpress 3.0 came out, we received several support tickets asking us when we would be pushing an upgrade, and asked us if anything bad would happen if they went ahead and upgraded their install themselves. We

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikipedia is one of the slower sites on the web

2010-08-01 Thread Platonides
Roan Kattouw wrote: One easy hack to reduce this problem is just to only provide a few options for stub threshold, as we do with thumbnail size. Although this is only useful if we cache pages with nonzero stub threshold . . . why don't we do that? Too much fragmentation due to the excessive

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikipedia is one of the slower sites on the web

2010-08-01 Thread Platonides
Roan Kattouw wrote: 2010/8/1 Platonides: Aryeh, can you do some statistics about the frequency of the different stub thresholds? Perhaps restricted to people which edited this year, to discard unused accounts. He can't, but I can. I ran a couple of queries and put the result at http

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki version statistics

2010-08-01 Thread Platonides
Edward Z. Yang wrote: There's probably some interesting knowledge on looking how they patched it, but I don't know how to easily extract it. A good starting point would probablyb e most edited files. Cheers, Edward I'm open for any data :) My guess is that the most edited files are the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Storing data across requests

2010-07-30 Thread Platonides
Chad wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Bryan Tong Minh wrote: Also, on places where no memcached or equivalent is available (i.e. CACHE_NONE), this will not work. Then you could be using the objectcache table in the database. No, that's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Discussion Questions for Potentially-Objectionable Content

2010-07-23 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:02 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: This is a perennial proposal. It's an idea I like, as it puts control in the hands of the viewer rather than third parties. All it requires is someone to code something that passes muster as being

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Discussion Questions for Potentially-Objectionable Content

2010-07-23 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: You would need to reparse on edit (which changes categories) all pages including the image. Even if the image comes from commons or another ForeignRepo. Not as easy, I think, but this is a long wanted

Re: [Wikitech-l] Disabling magic linking for plaintext URLs

2010-07-23 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Alex Kozak ako...@creativecommons.org wrote: Ah, ok my apologies. Maybe you could add a note describing some of the things that would break to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUrlProtocols? I've corrected some inaccuracies on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Must 3rd party skins and extensions be distributed under GPL?

2010-07-23 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: This is C-oriented, but the application to MediaWiki is fairly clear. Extensions will invariably make function calls back and forth to core code, and share data structures (= objects). This conventional understanding is reflected in MediaWiki's README file, which has

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upload file size limit

2010-07-21 Thread Platonides
Tim Starling wrote: The problem is just that increasing the limits in our main Squid and Apache pool would create DoS vulnerabilities, including the prospect of accidental DoS. We could offer this service via another domain name, with a specially-configured webserver, and a higher level of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes to the new installer

2010-07-21 Thread Platonides
Tim Starling wrote: There's still quite a lot of work to do to get the new installer ready for 1.17. I think we should focus on that, and avoid expanding the scope of the project until we've reached that milestone. There are the issues discussed here:

Re: [Wikitech-l] CodeReview auto-deferral regexes

2010-07-21 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: As I discussed with a few others at Wikimania, it'd be nice to take this one step further and allow multiple people to sign off on a revision, possibly with various types of sign-off, like: * I read the diff and it looks good * I tested this and seems to work * I reviewed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Adding fields to the interwiki table

2010-06-14 Thread Platonides
Roan Kattouw wrote: 2010/6/13 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com: Do we need *both* values? It could simply contain http://foo.com/etc (API) or mysql://localhost:3306/abc (dbname) I don't like using one field for two different things like that, but besides that, it'd be nice to have the API URL

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project management and issue tracking; Bugzilla vs Redmine

2010-06-14 Thread Platonides
Victor Vasiliev wrote: Are there any public Bugzilla and Subversion dumps? I'd like to download them and experiment with BZ/RM, but I need real data for it (and don't really like the idea of downloading it manually). --vvv There are subversion dumps at http://svn.wikimedia.org/dumps/ I am

Re: [Wikitech-l] Adding fields to the interwiki table

2010-06-13 Thread Platonides
Roan Kattouw wrote: 2010/6/13 Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com: 1) iw_trans - I don't think this needs to become more than a boolean like it is. If we allow transwiki inclusion, we'll have to use a DB or API connection. Since a DB connection will always be preferable to an HTTP request to the

Re: [Wikitech-l] On proper sorting using CLDR

2010-06-10 Thread Platonides
Helder Geovane wrote: Currently it is possible to define the sortkeys using {{DEFAULTSORT:Sortkey}} and in lots of places this sortkey coincide with the value of magic words like {{PAGENAME}} and {{SUBPAGENAME}}, so we don't need to update them manually. The (annoying) exception is when the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login on some of the newer WMF sites (usability, outreach, strategy)

2010-06-07 Thread Platonides
Bence Damokos wrote: Hi, It might just be my browser's strange cookie handling, but it seems to me that a number of WMF programme wikis don't log me in automatically, nowadays. Is it possible to enable automatic login on some of the special project wikis that have been set up lately?

Re: [Wikitech-l] varchar(255) binary in tables.sql

2010-06-06 Thread Platonides
Ryan Chan wrote: Hello all, I remember in old days, UTF-8 string are stored as varbinary, are there reason to change to varchar(255) binary? Also, what is the default server/connection/client character set settings now? Thanks. MediaWiki supports both ways. Wikipedia still uses the

Re: [Wikitech-l] varchar(255) binary in tables.sql

2010-06-06 Thread Platonides
Ryan Chan wrote: Hello, On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: MediaWiki supports both ways. Wikipedia still uses the mysql 4 compatible options, and since mysql chars only support the bmp, it isn't likely to change. It all depends on what you choose

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection) launch on June 14 (PDT)

2010-06-04 Thread Platonides
Rob Lanphier wrote: A full test pass with all of the different configurations isn't going to be possible, so some help with testing the different configurations would be wonderful. We'll have a fast fallback plan in place should we accidentally break the other wikis, but obviously it'd be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Icon area for articles (Re: Anyone with CSS fu ...)

2010-06-04 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: This isn't necessarily hard. If there's a specific area in the HTML we can inject them, we could easily add a {{#icon}} parser function or similar that could affect these sorts of icons (and kill the need

Re: [Wikitech-l] New committers

2010-06-03 Thread Platonides
Tisane wrote: A modified version is already there: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wikibot Hopefully at some point we can come up with a more distinctive name than Wikibot. Now there is some discussion, by the way, as to whether bot maintenance should be moved to a different SVN

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reasonably efficient interwiki transclusion

2010-06-03 Thread Platonides
Daniel Friesen wrote: ^_^ hackish isn't that bad in some sense. I'm currently experimenting with some farm code that works completely outside of MediaWiki rather than as a extension sitting inside of it. Using a sandbox it can get access to the MediaWiki install and extract info from it in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Unicode equivalence

2010-05-29 Thread Platonides
Robert Ullmann wrote: I've looked at this a bit more. There are more serious problems. Apparently, no-one converted the 5.0 titles in the wiki to 5.1 when normalization was turned on; there are pages that can't be accessed. (!) for example, try this (Malayalam for fish):

Re: [Wikitech-l] [gsoc] splitting the img_metadata field into a new table

2010-05-29 Thread Platonides
Since you are storing in the db the metadata of the images, try to make the schema able to store metadata coming from the page, so it can be used to implement bug 8298 or extensions like ImageFilter. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Anyone with CSS fu that can help out on Flagged Revs?

2010-05-28 Thread Platonides
Why do you need to use CSS absolute positioning? Since it's output from an extension, you could place it on an appropiate place outside the bodyContent. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reasonably efficient interwiki transclusion

2010-05-26 Thread Platonides
Peter17 wrote: I didn't set $wgUploadPath. Just $wgUseInstantCommons = true; The images URLs are actually transformed to remote URLs: I work on my own local wiki, which address is http://localhost/mediawiki/ and transcluding {{mediawikiwiki::User:Peter17}} which contains

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's in a name?

2010-05-26 Thread Platonides
Conrad Irwin wrote: Wouldn't removing 1.6 from the main page solve the problem for most newcomers? Only those who go down to the PHP 4 section of the downloads need ever know it exists and thus get the impression that it is an older version. Once they're no-longer newcomers, we can hope that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reasonably efficient interwiki transclusion

2010-05-25 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Q overlo...@gmail.com wrote: I would have to suggest to not go the shared database route unless the code can be fixed so that shared databases actually work with all of the DB backends. I don't see why it shouldn't be easy to get it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reasonably efficient interwiki transclusion

2010-05-25 Thread Platonides
church.of.emacs.ml wrote: However, you'd have to worry that each distant wiki uses only a fair amount of the home wiki server's resources. E.g. set a limit of inclusions (that limit would have to be on the home-wiki-server-side) and disallow infinite loops (they're always fun). Infinite loops

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reasonably efficient interwiki transclusion

2010-05-25 Thread Platonides
for remote users, it can be later refined to add more backends. Anyway, I don't think api request would be cacheable by squids, so it would be directly passed to an application server. On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: He can internally call the api from

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reasonably efficient interwiki transclusion

2010-05-24 Thread Platonides
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Peter17/Reasonably_efficient_interwiki_transclusion#Good_points Seems it doesn't work so well. It was inadvertedly broken for wikitext transclusions when the interwiki points to the nice url. See 'wgEnableScaryTranscluding and Templates/Images?' thread at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Unicode equivalence

2010-05-22 Thread Platonides
We should probably normalise to 5.1 on all wikis. I can view the 5.0 characters but not the 5.1 ones, though. But would someone tell me where in the server code this is done? I have not been able to find it. Then I can understand a bit better, possibly just fix it in the bot code somehow, or

Re: [Wikitech-l] question about user_group dump

2010-05-22 Thread Platonides
As I know, users of wikipedia can change their status by becoming helper, admin or joining other groups. Since when, the user groups like this data showed, the date this date collected? How I am supposed to do if I want the data showing the change of user status? You'd need to check the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual impairment

2010-05-18 Thread Platonides
Conrad Irwin wrote: Just as with image captchas, you'd need to introduce noise into it. If you are working from known constituents, you can use cross-correlation to ignore noise pretty effectively (I believe it's what humans do). The choice then is either to make the noise sound like the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deletion schema

2010-05-18 Thread Platonides
We should start a page at mediawiki.org listing the Pros and Cons of each option. Church of Emacs: I'm still not sure whether RevisionDelete is aimed at replacing the old deletion schema completely, including the archive table. Could anyone comment on that please? It's the logical evolution

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deletion schema

2010-05-18 Thread Platonides
Chad wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Platonides wrote: We should start a page at mediawiki.org listing the Pros and Cons of each option. Put it as a subpage of [[RFC]]. -Chad I started it at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Page_deletion Please, collaborate

Re: [Wikitech-l] View deleted edit

2010-05-17 Thread Platonides
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Bryan Tong Minh wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:41 PM, church.of.emacs.ml church.of.emacs...@googlemail.com wrote: Special:Undelete doesn't use a pager like in the page history, where you can browse the revisions. Instead, all revisions are displayed – and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual impairment

2010-05-17 Thread Platonides
Tim Starling wrote: Audio CAPTCHAs, like visual CAPTCHAs, are not accessible for all people and do not conform to W3C accessibility guidelines. What's more, they're easier to crack than visual CAPTCHAs due to their one-dimensional nature. This is especially true if you use a public source

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual impairment

2010-05-15 Thread Platonides
emijrp wrote: Hi all; Solving captcha during registration is mandatory. Can this be replaced with a sound captcha for visual impairment people? It is a suggestion to the usability project too. Thanks. Regards, emijrp That's an old bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4845

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-14 Thread Platonides
vyznev wrote: I'd suspect some script is trying to do an API query using a very long URL, and the fact that this only happens when JS is enabled lends support to this. I don't see any long url requested on enwiki. I would guess that the Javascript associated with Vector is using more

Re: [Wikitech-l] ExtAuth, wgSecretKey questions...

2010-05-12 Thread Platonides
Daniel Friesen wrote: I've been experimenting with a MW related project after all this time away. No-one is in IRC so I had two minor questions I needed clarified. Perhaps not at the time you sent the email. You should try at an appropiate US time (around evening in Europe). What's the

Re: [Wikitech-l] bold and italic

2010-05-12 Thread Platonides
Alex Brollo wrote: On 11 May 2010 17:23, Makelesi Kora-Gonelevu makele...@gmail.com wrote: Hi i seem to have a problem with my wiki. Everytime i bold or italise a text and save it, it keeps adding more ' ' '. Has anyone ever come across this problem? Do you have magic quotes or another

Re: [Wikitech-l] bold and italic

2010-05-12 Thread Platonides
Svip wrote: On 12 May 2010 13:33, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Alex Brollo wrote: This question gives me the opportunity for a question to experts about server load. Is really so harder for the server to manage html tags like b, /b, i,/i instead of usual wiki markup

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2010-05-12 Thread Platonides
Tomasz Finc wrote: I think that would be a nice status update. If someone can write the code .. I'll happily dig up where this report lives. --tomasz The report is generated from isidore:/home/reporter/bugzilla_report.php The script living at svn-private/wmf/reports It probably isn't using

Re: [Wikitech-l] bold and italic

2010-05-12 Thread Platonides
Svip wrote: On 12 May 2010 13:57, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: You could use span style=font-weight: bold, but what's the point of that? Because it would be correct HTML. Using b and i where what you really want is to make it bold and italic isn't deprecated. Incorrect

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2010-05-12 Thread Platonides
Roan Kattouw wrote: 2010/5/12 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com: $n = Sql_query( SELECT (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM code_rev WHERE cr_repo_id=1 AND cr_timestamp = '$epoch' $extra AND cr_path LIKE /trunk/phase3%) + (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM code_rev WHERE cr_repo_id=1 AND cr_timestamp = '$epoch

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2010-05-10 Thread Platonides
Could be CodeReview data easily merged here? Would be cool having (for phase3) the number of new revisions, how many revisions are marked new since the latest release, the number of fixmes... That would be a few simple of sql queries, so I don't think there would be issues on it (although

Re: [Wikitech-l] Named entity references and XML well-formedness

2010-04-26 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:02 AM, Dmitriy Sintsov ques...@rambler.ru wrote: Wouldn't it be enough just to define an entity? http://www.criticism.com/dita/dtd2.html#section-ENTITIES I used such definition for nbsp once in XSL sheet. Don't know how well it works alone in XML.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Automatic links to man pages

2010-04-19 Thread Platonides
You don't need to specify all parameters: {{man|bash}} Open bash(1) {{man|passwd|section=5}} Documentation about /etc/passwd {{man|read|section=2|os=bsd}} Open the man page of the syscall read(2) {{man|apt-get|section=2|os=debian|version=5}} Use the man page from Debian 5 (I know, I know,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump character set problems

2010-04-15 Thread Platonides
Aran Dunkley escribió: Hi I'm wondering if anyone can help with this multibyte character corruption: http://aqes.organicdesign.tv/Categor%C3%ADa:Arquitecto The site was moved from a shared host to a dedicated server, but now it's not rendering the multibyte characters properly in the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump character set problems

2010-04-15 Thread Platonides
Aran Dunkley escribió: $wgDBmysql5 is set to false, the show create table for page gives this on both the original and the new server: mwiki_page | CREATE TABLE `mwiki_page` ( `page_id` int(8) unsigned NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT, `page_namespace` int(11) NOT NULL DEFAULT '0',

Re: [Wikitech-l] Maintenance costs

2010-04-13 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: Anyway, this list is used mainly by MediaWiki developers and Wikimedia sysadmins, not third-party/corporate users. You could try asking at the mwusers.com forum, or some place like that, for an answer from someone who's actually in a similar situation to you. In fact,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Languages

2010-04-11 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: There's no config var for that like there is for the skin, cache and upload paths, but you could always use symlinks for the /languages/messages/ directory (provided you're not on Windows).

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wiki syntax for representing that a page is a child of another page?

2010-04-10 Thread Platonides
You could express those relantionships using semantic mediawiki. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC project advice: port texvc to Python?

2010-03-30 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Chad wrote: What if it was written as an extension and moved to /extensions? Then we get the benefit of decoupling Math from the core software, What benefit is this? It's not realistically decoupled from the core software unless it

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC project advice: port texvc to Python?

2010-03-30 Thread Platonides
Damon Wang wrote: Option (2) is the most maintainable and feasible option, and it's precisely the one that cannot be done in PHP. As far as I know, PHP has no parser-generator package. (Please, please let me know if that's incorrect so I can stop embarrassing myself and get on with writing a

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

2010-03-30 Thread Platonides
Roan Kattouw wrote: 2010/3/26 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il: Thanks. Note, however, that if you add JS snippets, it may make it usable to me, but probably not quite usable to many people who don't want to learn to edit their vector.js. I've been editing Wikipedia for 5 years

Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for comments: New Message class

2010-03-30 Thread Platonides
The new Message system should allow passing a Language class representing the language that is to be used. This way, passing $wgContLang instead of a default $wgLang you could get the message in content language. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC project advice: port texvc to Python?

2010-03-30 Thread Platonides
Bryan Tong Minh wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Platonides wrote: Changing to python will also break for people that compiled math, update without reading the release notes and don't have python. While this is ofcourse possible, how big is the chance that somebody will have ocaml

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lots of proxy errors on secure server

2010-03-30 Thread Platonides
RobH will be installing a new secure gateway (gilman) shortly. It was racked some hours ago. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Common.css not working

2010-03-25 Thread Platonides
Jean-Marc van Leerdam wrote: Regardless of whether you succeed in hiding the 'view source' tab, how will you counter URL manipulation by the user? AFAIK anyone can change the URL to ...index.php?title=Pagenameaction=edit and then get presented with the 'view source' results (or the edit

Re: [Wikitech-l] ? earlier versions of user access levels + permissions

2010-03-25 Thread Platonides
Chad wrote: He's not asking about rights changes for user accounts. He was wanting to look at the historical values of $wgGroupPermissions. Like was said earlier in the thread, the only way to find that is to do some digging through Bugzilla and who knows where else to find discussions

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC project advice: port texvc to Python?

2010-03-24 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: As long as the worst that could happen on a large majority of installations is DoS, I don't think we should be afraid to rewrite the code just because *maybe* it would be less secure. We should obviously check over the new code carefully, but I wouldn't say it's any more

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC project advice: port texvc to Python?

2010-03-23 Thread Platonides
Python is a nice language. PHP (portability) or C/C++ (speed) would be better but Python is preferable to OCaml. You mention ANTLR, something like that could be a good because it should allow to generate the same parser in a different language with not so much effort (probably you won't have

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC project advice: port texvc to Python?

2010-03-23 Thread Platonides
Happy-melon wrote: I took it to mean that he wanted to split the math parsing out as a **MediaWiki** extension, implementing math as a parser tag hook in the usual way. Which is definitely highly desirable. --HM Making it a MediaWiki extension is of course desirable (moving texvc out of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Auto Reply: Re: Auto Reply: Auto Reply: Transclude contemporary template states to page hisories?

2010-03-21 Thread Platonides
Thomas Dalton wrote: How about an anti-flood filter than stops emails that are identical to an email sent within the last hour? That ought to stop people auto-responding to themselves, at least. I think we can live with one auto-response per person (which is all most clients send, anyway,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-admin-l] 2010-03-11 01:10:08: enwiki Checksumming pages-meta-history.xml.bz2 :D

2010-03-18 Thread Platonides
Zeyi wrote: Hi, Firstly, congratulations for this! as i Know it has taken for a long time! and May I ask a small question: what difference between current dump and history dump. I know current one only includes current edits, and history one has all edits as introduction said. You have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Commons new file feed

2010-03-14 Thread Platonides
Tisza Gergő wrote: Hi, is there a MediaWiki feature or external tool to get a live feed of Commons file uploads? (By live I mean something that can be used to show a realtime slideshow of new images. I vaguely remember someone saying that the WMF office has a screen with such a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Uploads on small wikis

2010-03-12 Thread Platonides
Dmitriy Sintsov wrote: Casey Brown: You can change the language of the Commons interface in your preferences, instead of using the ?uselang= parameter all the time. As other peoples correctly pointed out, it is not convenient to select the language manually in user's options (especially for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Summer of Code and Wikimedia Foundation

2010-03-12 Thread Platonides
K. Peachey wrote: The reason I suggested a separate IRC channel, since i wrote about it at night and my crazied ramblings probably didn't resemble much, (or communication venue in general, for example people have pointed out a mailing list) is because as someone pointed out (someone, Dmitriy i

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-admin-l] 2010-03-11 01:10:08: enwiki Checksumming pages-meta-history.xml.bz2 :D

2010-03-11 Thread Platonides
Tomasz Finc wrote: Brian J Mingus wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Tomasz Finctf...@wikimedia.org mailto:tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Yup, that's the one. If you have a fast upload pipe then I'm more then happy to setup space for it. Otherwise it should be arriving in our

Re: [Wikitech-l] Selenium tests

2010-03-10 Thread Platonides
Roan Kattouw wrote: 2010/3/10 Conrad Irwin: This should work the same way as extension parser-tests, with the tests in the extension's directory, included using a config variable. Otherwise, extensions are split over two places, so there's not such an easy way to just tarball them, and it's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Selenium tests

2010-03-10 Thread Platonides
Roan Kattouw wrote: 2010/3/10 Platonidesplatoni...@gmail.com: Shouldn't that server have the extensions checked out and installed on a local mediawiki before running them ? (I am assuming it's a single server testing against localhost) The point is it's not a single server testing them

Re: [Wikitech-l] Including tables in templates

2010-03-04 Thread Platonides
Makelesi Kora-Gonelevu wrote: I know how to include tables but i'm not sure how to include them in the template. Just write the table in the template. It's the same syntax. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] modernizing mediawiki

2010-03-03 Thread Platonides
Chris Lewis wrote: I hope I am emailing this to the right group. It is. My concern was about mediawiki and it's limitations, as well as it's outdated methods. As someone wo runs a wiki, I've gone through a lot of frustrations. Maybe you should list your frustrations? It maybe a problem on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help with addition of a contacts database

2010-03-03 Thread Platonides
Danese Cooper wrote: Would we not just run an ldap server? Its an open standard, afterall. How do you envision using a contact database? D It's nice to see you here Danese :) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] modernizing mediawiki

2010-03-03 Thread Platonides
fl wrote: No, they can't. As far as I am aware, MediaWiki is released under the GNU General Public License[1], which stipulates, among other things, the requirement to release a program's source code to the public and to release any derived changes under the same license[2]. If the WMF were

Re: [Wikitech-l] Central Auth

2010-02-12 Thread Platonides
Huib Laurens wrote: Hello, I was trying to figure out how to work with Central Auth but the page on the wiki is kind of small and not clear. I have four wiki's all running on the same server with mediawiki 1.16alpha and mysql All four wiki's have a own database main intern llam

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extensions in SVN looking for a maintainer

2010-02-12 Thread Platonides
Siebrand Mazeland wrote: Would also appreciate information about any extension in this list that may be obsolete on MediaWiki trunk; this will allow us to tag it in trunk and remove it after branching the next MediaWiki version. How are we dealing with obsolete extensions? Just deleting the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Skin system rewrite

2010-02-10 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org wrote: Merging Monobook and Modern is actually a good point for one of my other ideas, which is to have themes for skins. In other words, same HTML generation, different CSS. Then Monobook and Modern

Re: [Wikitech-l] Skin system rewrite

2010-02-09 Thread Platonides
Trevor Parscal wrote: I've been very busy with deployments, so I've been waiting to talk here, but I think that there are allot of considerations for a skinning system that I could help shed some light on when I get some time (maybe next week?). The Usability Initiative's last hard deadline

Re: [Wikitech-l] Skin system rewrite

2010-02-08 Thread Platonides
Roan Kattouw wrote: 2010/2/8 Jack Phoenix: Hi all, MediaWiki's skin system has been quite a mess for some while. I decided to try rewriting it AWESOME! Someone finally took up this task :D and you can see the end result on [1]. It's quite a big patch, which is why I want to encourage all

Re: [Wikitech-l] Facebook introducing PHP compiler?

2010-02-03 Thread Platonides
Domas Mituzas wrote: However, that article is just rumour. I think it's more likely they made some apc-like cache/optimizer than a compiler. http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=280583813919id=9445547199ref=nf And the conclusion that it will be open source is questionable. In such

Re: [Wikitech-l] Chrome frame support?

2010-02-03 Thread Platonides
Nimish Gautam wrote: Hey all, I really want to turn on Google chrome frame support for the mediawiki projects: http://code.google.com/chrome/chromeframe/ Basically, it would just involve us putting in a meta tag on our pages that would trigger an IE plugin Google wrote, assuming the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Facebook introducing PHP compiler?

2010-01-31 Thread Platonides
David Gerard wrote: http://www.sdtimes.com/blog/post/2010/01/30/Facebook-rewrites-PHP-runtime.aspx Facebook is written in PHP. Unlike Wikimedia, they have money to pay people to speed it up. Looks like they're introducing a PHP compiler. Open source. Might be of interest to WMF and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Search article error (Inner error)

2010-01-30 Thread Platonides
李琴 wrote: I turned off all my extentions,but it still has that error :( vanessa What's the wikitext of that Infobox_housi(ing?) template / the pages containing it? Try finding the wikitext that produces the error. It's probably that search is truncating the wikitext, but still

Re: [Wikitech-l] Search article error (Inner error)

2010-01-29 Thread Platonides
李琴 wrote: Hi all, I search an article in my localwiki,sometimes it shows the error: Inner error Preprocessor_DOM::preprocessToObj generated invalid XML why does this happen?how can I solve this problem? Thanks :-) vanessa This shouldn't happen. Do you use any search

Re: [Wikitech-l] (no subject)

2010-01-28 Thread Platonides
李琴 wrote: Hi all, I have built a LocalWiki. Now I want the data of it to keep consistent with the Wikipedia and one work I should do is to get the data of update from Wikipedia. I get the URLs through analyzing the RSS

Re: [Wikitech-l] checking understanding of file uploading

2010-01-28 Thread Platonides
Let me see if i have understood it. You wrote an extension we don't know anything about. You then changed the wiki settings in a specified way. The extension now doesn't work for normal users. and you want us to fix the extension for you just from that description?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Range Contribs tool; anti-vandal software; anon IPs' User-Agents; the netblocks that vandalize the most; etc.

2010-01-27 Thread Platonides
Unforgettableid wrote: A) Did I go too far when I did all the research I described above? Do you yourself often use the Range Contributions tool[4] for looking at vandals' ISPs' contributions? B) What do you think are the chances that the same person made both the first[1] and the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Hiding Special:UnwatchedPages

2010-01-19 Thread Platonides
Tisza Gero wrote: Huji huji.huji at gmail.com writes: Just because some page is watched doesn't mean somebody is really caring about it. A better feature could be to list pages which are not being actively watched; an active watcher could be defined as someone who has made a login/edit in the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Hiding Special:UnwatchedPages

2010-01-19 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: Why do we hide Special:UnwatchedPages from regular users? Unwatched pages are something that people should know about so they can be sure to watch them. If no one is actively watching a page, it's more likely that vandalism will stick around. Yes, vandals and trolls

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feedback for Bugzilla3.4.4

2010-01-19 Thread Platonides
Brianna Laugher wrote: All better now. Can someone confirm for me, that basically the way to add yourself to the CC list for a bug is just view the bug and hit commit? I think there used to be more steps involved. Brianna Yes. Thanks to the magic of Add me to CC list being checked. It

Re: [Wikitech-l] RDFa and Microdata in MediaWiki

2010-01-16 Thread Platonides
Philip wrote: Certainly, but if wiki editors are *able* to do it by hand, then IMHO microdata is much less error-prone. Manu Sporny wrote: I don't think that the best approach for Wikipedia is to allow direct Microdata or RDFa markup. There are already many templates in use at Wikipedia via

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