[Wikitech-l] RfC review meeting on 2015-09-16

Hi folks, We have an RfC review meeitng scheduled for 2015-09-16 at 21:00 UTC. Full details can be found on Phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E66 The meeting will be on the IRC channel #wikimedia-office on chat.freenode.net. We haven't worked out the agenda yet, but please comment

Re: [Wikitech-l] Picking the RfC to discuss on IRC next week

On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Legoktm <legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 09/03/2015 12:11 AM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > > I have it as a TODO to completely rework that board, but I'm not doing > > it by next week. What RfC needs attention now? > > If no o

[Wikitech-l] Picking the RfC to discuss on IRC next week

Hi everyone, Aaron did a great job leading the discussion about "Master/slave datacenter strategy for MediaWiki" (T88666). Someone (maybe you!) will publish a link to the IRC conversation, and someone (maybe you!) will make our IRC transcripts from #wikimedia-office more robustly stored.

[Wikitech-l] What does "Director of Architecture" mean anyway?

Hi everyone, It's been a while since I've been involved here, and I've got a pretty good excuse. I'm going to avoid going into too much detail, but in short, I was involved in a pretty nasty traffic collision, and have only recently returned to work. It turned out the way that a lot of bike

[Wikitech-l] RFC meeting this week

Hi all, I'm going to take on the RFC review meeting announcement duties for Tim. Discussion topic this week: "RFC: Master/slave datacenter strategy for MediaWiki": I've put the meeting details in Phab's event tool here:

[Wikitech-l] Org changes in WMF's Platform Engineering group

Hi folks, First things first: I'm not burying the lede in this email, so if you aren't interested in the inner workings of WMF's Platform Engineering team, feel free to ignore the rest of this. :-) We're making a few changes effective in April for Platform Engineering, which you all care

[Wikitech-l] Welcome Eric Evans to the WMF Services team

Hi everyone, I'm pleased to welcome Eric Evans as a new engineer in our Services team. Eric lives and works in San Antonio, TX Eric's formative years in his current career were at Rackspace, which at the time he joined (February 2000) was a small 30 person hosting company in southern Texas. At

[Wikitech-l] What architectural fissures do we want in MediaWiki?

Hi everyone, There has been a lot of talk over the past year or so about SOA and what it means for MediaWiki. What I've taken from the conversation is the following: 1. There is a general desire for us to separate user interface code from data manipulation code. This is mainly in service of

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: The GPLv3 is not more restrictive. As I mentioned, if anything it’s more permissive, since it is compatible with more licenses, and because it allows distributors to add some certain additional clauses to the license at

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Our code is GPLv2 or later, which is the functional equivalent of being multi-licensed under GPLv2 and GPLv3 (and all later versions of the GPL

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

Hi Tyler More comments inline: On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure exactly what you mean. The MPL is compatible with both GPL 2.0 and 3.0. MPL v1.1 was not compatible with any version of the GPL, hence the reason why Mozilla eventually

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] DevSummit appreciation

Huge +tons to everything below (and top posting to drive Mz up the wall) :-) As Erik said, I know I'm probably going to be driving Rachel and Quim nuts with my handwringing and second guessing as we figure out the pros and cons of how things went this year so that we can keep improving this.

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Developer Summit: Future of the Architecture Committee

is a BFD) :-) Rob -- Forwarded message -- From: Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org Date: Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:04 PM Subject: Fwd: No more Architecture Committee? To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org (Alright...let's try this again!) Hi everyone, The current

Re: [Wikitech-l] Brion's role change within WMF

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: Great news Brion! I'm excited about what your energy will bring (back) to this part of the software stack. And I'll remain reserved and not make fanboy comments; professionalism and all. What he said ^ My getting

Re: [Wikitech-l] VE without Parsoid

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@nichework.com wrote: Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org writes: HTML storage would be a pretty simple feature, and would allow third-party users to use VE without Parsoid. I've been thinking about how to implement an alternative to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: No more Architecture Committee?

On Jan 15, 2015 8:33 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu Jan 15 2015 at 8:05:18 PM Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: So, where does that leave us? Do we need a BFDL? If so, who should pick? Should it be someone in the project? Should the WMF hire someone to lead

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: No more Architecture Committee?

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 16/01/15 15:04, Rob Lanphier wrote: I believe no one would dispute the credentials of every member of the group. Brion, Tim, and Mark have an extremely long history with the project, being employees #1, #2

[Wikitech-l] No more Architecture Committee?

Hi everyone, The current MediaWiki Architecture Committee[1] has its roots in a 2013 Amsterdam Hackthon session[2], where we ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: No more Architecture Committee?

(Alright...let's try this again!) Hi everyone, The current MediaWiki Architecture Committee[1] has its roots in a 2013 Amsterdam Hackathon session[2], where we had a pair of sessions to try to establish our architectural guidelines[3]. It was there that we agreed that it would be good to revive

Re: [Wikitech-l] No more Architecture Committee?

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi everyone, The current MediaWiki Architecture Committee[1] has its roots in a 2013 Amsterdam Hackthon session[2], where we Hehhow's that for a teaser. Well, now I'm committed to finishing this email :-) Stay

Re: [Wikitech-l] Stance on Social Media

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 9:35 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Adding social media icons is a lot of pain for very little gain, in my opinion. I'm in the eh camp, but I also don't think it's that much pain if done properly. This article sums it up pretty well:

[Wikitech-l] Welcome, Marko Obrovac, to the Services team

Hi everyone I'm pleased to (belatedly) welcome another new member of the Services team: Marko Obrovac. Marko started working in the Services team with Gabriel Wicke and James Douglas on RESTbase. Marko comes to us from Reflected Networks, a Croatian web-hosting company specializing in

[Wikitech-l] RFC meeting wikignoming (Re: RFC meeting this week)

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: In the next RFC meeting we would like to discuss the following RFC: * Text extraction https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Text_extraction The meeting will be on the IRC channel #wikimedia-office on

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: New in Platform Engineering: James Douglas and Stas Malyshev

Hi everyone, We have two new people starting this week in Platform Engineering. James Douglas James started yesterday as the second member of our newly formed Services group. Services in this context are standalone software components that often run on their own machines and have very specific

Re: [Wikitech-l] JSON and Scribunto

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Yuri Astrakhan yastrak...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: There's a long-standing request for Scribunto to provide library functions for JSON encoding and decoding. [Advantages: lots of use

Re: [Wikitech-l] Backing out REL1_24

On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Markus Glaser gla...@hallowelt.biz wrote: Let me be clear about one thing: this is a matter of unclear responsibilites. I'm not blaming anyone personally for what they did. Let's clarify the process (maybe here on this list) and make _better_ mistakes tomorrow

[Wikitech-l] Roadmap and deployment highlights - week of August 25th

Hi all, Welcome to this week's deployment highlights! I'm pretending to be Greg today. The full log of planned deployments next week can be found at: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments#Week_of_Aug_25th A couple of notable items on Tuesday of next week * Global user CSS and JS

[Wikitech-l] Release Engineering team (new! improved!)

Hi everyone, I’d like to announce an organizational change at Wikimedia Foundation in the Platform Engineering group. For those that aren't terribly interested in how WMF's org chart looks, you can skip the rest of this email. :-) Yesterday, we formalized “Release Engineering” as a team, and

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: HHVM deployment update

Hi everyone, The email below was written with an internal audience in mind, but Krenair pointed out that there would generally be a lot of general interest in this. Rob -- Forwarded message -- From: Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org Date: Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 5:20 PM Subject: HHVM

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML templating progress; Knockout Components curly brace syntax

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: In terms of benchmarks, I was thinking more along the lines of benchmarking on the client, in particular for mobile devices which may have less memory. This would essentially be, time to load the template from the server

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML templating progress; Knockout Components curly brace syntax

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Is there someone who has the time to perform and publish an independent audit on performance specifically? We currently have this: https

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-tech] reviews needed for pubsubhubbub extension

On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: Wikimedia Germany has been working with a team of students over the past months. They have among other things developed a pubsubhubbub extension. The idea is that we allow 3rd parties to easily subscribe to

[Wikitech-l] Summer contractors for Multimedia

Hi folks, I just wanted to provide a brief (and belated) announcement regarding some added help we've enlisted over the summer on the Multimedia team. Brian Wolff has been doing little bits of contracting work over the course of his school year (as well as a lot of volunteer development), and

[Wikitech-l] Welcome, Dan Duvall, Automation Engineer

Hi everyone, I'd like to welcome Dan Duvall to Wikimedia Foundation in his role as Automation Engineer in our Release and QA group. Dan comes to us most recently from Giant Rabbit, where he worked for a few months doing web development consulting, and before that, at National Novel Writing Month

[Wikitech-l] Welcome, Mukunda Modell, new Release Engineer joining Platform Engineering

Hi everyone, I'm pleased to announce Mukunda Modell, a new member of our Release and QA group[1] in Platform Engineering. He'll be working on the multitude of things that need to be done to make the process of getting code from the first developer submission out into production in a reliable and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Image scaling proposal: server-side mip-mapping

Hi Gilles, Thanks for the comparison images. When I was playing around with this a while back, I found that images with lots of parallel lines and lots of easily recognized detail were the best to see what sorts of problems rescaling can cause. Here's a few

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Core Team plans for the coming quarter

Hi everyone, I wanted to give everyone a heads up on our plans for the next quarter. The long version is here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_MediaWiki_Core_Team/Quarterly_review,_April_2014 The short version: we're planning to primarily focus on: * HHVM deployment. No promises

[Wikitech-l] Aaron Schulz - Senior Performance Engineer

Hi everyone I'm pleased to announce that Aaron Schulz is taking on a new role in Wikimedia Foundation's Platform Team: Senior Performance Engineer. Aaron works on MediaWiki internals -- components that every user-visible feature depends on, but which are rarely user-visible themselves. The

Re: [Wikitech-l] Implementation JSON based localisation format for MediaWiki nearly completed

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Siebrand Mazeland siebr...@kitano.nlwrote: With the merging of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/122787/ , probably the largest patch set for MediaWiki ever (+548314, -714438), MediaWiki core is now using JSON for localisation of interface messages, per a

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML templating systems MediaWiki - is this summary right?

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: I don't see a huge case for discussing this in the RFC meeting. It's mostly about the implementation at this point, and IMO code review and pull requests are a better place to discuss that. We'll post benchmark results

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mapping our upstream projects

On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Faidon Liambotis fai...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:47:04AM -0700, Quim Gil wrote: * projects we develop that we want others to use and contribute to (e.g. MediaWiki) * projects others develop and we embed in our architecture (e.g.

[Wikitech-l] Engineering Community Team changes

Hi everyone, I'd like to announce some changes in the Engineering Community Team[1]. The headlines: * Quim Gil is taking over as the new Engineering Community Manager, effective immediately * Sumana Harihareswara is stepping into a new role as Senior Technical Writer, also effective immediately

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

Hi Tyler, I understand you're frustrated here. As Jon says: communication in the wikiverse is hard. Also, running a top 10 website is also hard. Others have covered many of the other points, but I wanted to make sure I addressed one of the points that hasn't been covered yet: On Thu, Mar 6,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

Hi everyone, I wanted to give everyone an update from an in-person conversation I had with Ryan (see...see...I do talk to people in person!) :-) Ryan and crew, I'm really glad you all are following through with documentation and doing all of the testing you are. Thank you! If we're going to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making it possible to specify MediaWiki compatibility in extensions

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, As you are probably aware of, it has been possible for some time now to install Composer compatible MediaWiki extensions via Composer. Markus Glaser recently wrote an RFC titled

[Wikitech-l] Decisions on HTML templating + Service Oriented Architecture (was Re: RFC review this Friday: HTML templating + Service Oriented Architecture)

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: This week, we're mostly discussing the HTML templating and SOA RFCs - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_Summit_2014/HTML_templatingand

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drop support for PHP 5.3

On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Faidon Liambotis fai...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Last time we were discussing PHP 5.4 it was quite a while ago but I remember hearing that we'd need to do some porting work for our extensions. Plus, we we re having a debate we were having about Suhosin that I

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Design] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote: Sacrificing the readability and beauty of content for most users because there is no universally perfect solution is the kind of hard-line approach that limits the reach of FOSS, and ultimately undermines our

[Wikitech-l] Meetings vs mailing list (Re: Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?)

On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Brad since you work for the for the foundation and seem to have a lot of expertise in this area and seem to have been one of the more vocal supporters of free fonts have you reached out to your work colleagues over video

Re: [Wikitech-l] Meetings vs mailing list (Re: Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?)

On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:03 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 February 2014 23:42, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: For what it's worth, I think I can represent Brad's viewpoint pretty well, so if anyone wants to discuss this with me in the office, I'm happy

Re: [Wikitech-l] Notes from Architecture Summit (and call for wiki gnome help)

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: Can/should notes about specific RfC be copied into the respective talk pages? Some of them include DocumentMode bits that can be part of the RfC text itself, but not many. In particular I'd like to see updates to

[Wikitech-l] Notes from Architecture Summit (and call for wiki gnome help)

Hi everyone, A big thank you to everyone who participated in the Architecture Summit this year! We covered a lot of ground this year, and collectively learned a lot about how to put these things together. A lot of our work from this summit on this is only just beginning. Speaking of that, just

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposed Program Architecture Summit 2014

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Diederik van Liere dvanli...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:11 PM, legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Given that the Configuration cluster had the second most number of votes in the poll, why was it left of the agenda entirely? We

[Wikitech-l] Welcome, Gilles Dubuc to the WMF Multimedia team

Hi everyone, I'm pleased to introduce Gilles Dubuc, who is a newly-arrived Senior Software Engineer and serving as Tech Lead for the Multimedia team here at WMF. We searched far and wide to find him, and we're thrilled to finally have him to filling this role. One of the biggest responsibilities

Re: [Wikitech-l] Straw poll to determine program for Architecture Summit

On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Diederik van Liere dvanli...@wikimedia.org wrote: Best wishes for 2014! I hope on your list of resolutions for the New Year is to participate in the straw poll for the Architecture Summit -- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_Summit_2014/Straw_poll Hi

[Wikitech-l] Summarizing the RFC clusters

Hi everyone, It would be extremely useful to have summaries for all RFC clusters[1] similar to the one I provided yesterday[2] for HTML templating. No, I'm not volunteering :-) As Diederik mentioned, we're going to have to figure out some way of prioritizing all of the RFC clusters in advance

[Wikitech-l] RFC deadline this Friday, December 20

Hi everyone, Everything I said below still stands, except now there are only two days, so please make the most of them. Don't make me break out the caps lock. I'll do it. :-) Thanks Rob -- Forwarded message -- From: Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org Date: Wed, Dec 11, 2013

[Wikitech-l] RFC deadline approaching for Arch Summit: December 20

Hi everyone, We're just over a week away from the Friday, December 20 deadline for RFCs as items to consider at the Architecture Summit.[1] That's not a hard and fast rule (we've never done this before), but we should definitely have a reasonable amount of time between the point an RFC is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mailing list etiquette and trolling

On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: In recent months I've come across a few mails on this list that only contained accusations of trolling. Those are very much not constructive and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making MediaWiki extensions installable via Composer

On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Bryan Davis bd...@wikimedia.org wrote: Finding a way to separate MW the library from MW the application may be a solution to this conflict. I don't think this would be a trivial

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making MediaWiki extensions installable via Composer

Hi Jeroen, I'd love for someone to take a crack at writing an RFC for this, and maybe we can get this on the agenda for the Architecture Summit. It seems to be a topic that comes up frequently, and has a number of champions, so it doesn't have to be you that does this. Thoughts? Rob On Sun,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making MediaWiki extensions installable via Composer

if stage. I honestly don't think it would take that much of a shove to put us on a trajectory to using it much more seriously. Rob On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Jeroen, I'd love for someone to take a crack at writing an RFC for this, and maybe

[Wikitech-l] OpenID deployment delayed until sometime in 2014

Hi everyone, If you were following our planning process this past spring/summer, you probably heard that we had planned to deploy both OAuth and OpenID by the end of 2013. The good news is that we were able to complete our OAuth deployment (see Dan Garry's blog post on the subject[1]). The bad

[Wikitech-l] Welcome, Aaron Arcos (volunteer!)

Hi everyone, I'm thrilled to announce that Aaron Arcos has agreed to volunteer for the Wikimedia Foundation as a developer with our Multimedia team through May. Aaron most recently worked at Google Switzerland (from 2005 until August 2013), where he was a frontend software engineer and UX

Re: [Wikitech-l] New Bugzilla users have restricted accounts

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Not all teams have drank the Mingle Kool-Aid yet ;-) That includes mine. :) Chad: does Platform really depend on bug assignment? Yes. Rob

Re: [Wikitech-l] New Bugzilla users have restricted accounts

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:24 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Our Bugzilla installation at https://bugs.wikimedia.org/ currently restricts the capabilities of new users as a knee-jerk response to prior Bugzilla-related vandalism. There are further details at

Re: [Wikitech-l] New Bugzilla users have restricted accounts

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:18 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Rob Lanphier wrote: We can certainly do something different than what we're doing, though. It should be easy to get editbugs; just not so easy that a vandal can get it. Okay, let's. I proposed reverting the settings change

Re: [Wikitech-l] Architectural leadership in Wikimedia's technical community

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Option D: We come up with some kind of open process for designating/confirming folks as architects, according to some well-defined criteria

[Wikitech-l] Welcome, Rummana Yasmeen

Hi everyone, I'd like to introduce Rummana Yasmeen, a new Software Test Engineer in our QA team through April in our San Francisco office. Rummana is going to be working with our Visual Editor team primarily on manual testing, finding bugs so you don't have to. Depending on how things go in the

[Wikitech-l] Possible topics for the next RFC review

Hi folks, Here's the RFCs that have the most interest expressed on the Architecture Summit invite page[1]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/TitleValue https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Configuration_database

[Wikitech-l] Architecture Summit sign up deadline: Tuesday, October 22

-- From: Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:25 PM Subject: Sign up for the MediaWiki Architecture Summit (deadline October 22) To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Hi everyone, Registration for the MediaWiki Architecture Summit is now open

Re: [Wikitech-l] Optimizing the deployment train schedule

Hi Erik, I'm not a fan of removing one of the stages of our current deployments. More inline: On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Option B: No Monday deploy. This would mean we'd have to improve our testing process to catch issues affecting the

[Wikitech-l] Welcome Gergő Tisza!

Hi everyone, I'm pleased to announce Gergő Tisza is joining our Mulitmedia team today as a Software Engineer on the team. He'll be working most closely with Mark Holmquist and Fabrice Florin on new media handling features (first up: helping Mark finish off the new Media Viewer). He joins us

[Wikitech-l] RFC: Refactoring the Title object

Hi folks, I think Daniel buried the lede here (see his mail below), so I'm mailing this out with a subject line that will hopefully provoke more discussion. :-) This is an RFC we originally conceived at the Hong Kong Wikimania architecture discussion. The notes from that are here:

[Wikitech-l] Ori Livneh's new role on site performance

Hi everyone, I'm excited to announce that Ori Livneh will be moving into Platform Engineering as Senior Performance Engineer. This work is riffing off of the work that he's done with the Growth (nee E3) team, where a big part of his job was instrumenting new features to measure their impact on

[Wikitech-l] Sign up for the MediaWiki Architecture Summit (deadline October 22)

Hi everyone, Registration for the MediaWiki Architecture Summit is now open, and will close Tuesday, October 22, 17:00 UTC (10am PDT). Here is the essential event information: January 23-24, 2014 SPUR - 654 Mission Street San Francisco, CA, USA Please put your name/information on the following

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki's Login Security

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Chris Steipp cste...@wikimedia.org wrote: With all the talk about turning on $wgSecureLogin for WMF sites, there has been a lot of misconceptions about how the option works, and difference of opinions about how they should work in the future. I started:

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki's Login Security

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: No it doesn't change the security consideration. What changes is the recognition that the problem may actually be bigger than initially thought. Everyone knew about China and Iran. Probably nobody knew about Pakistan,

[Wikitech-l] HTTPS for logged in users delayed. New date: August 28

Hi everyone, After assessing the current readiness (or lack thereof) of our HTTPS code, we've decided to postpone the deployment for a week. We have a number of things that we'd like to get cleaner resolution on: * Use of GeoIP vs enabling on per wiki basis * Use of a preference vs login form

Re: [Wikitech-l] Key community metrics to influence our plans

Hi all, Recapping a conversation that I had in person with Quim: On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: # Queue of open Gerrit change requests in relation to total amount of contributions. Shorter == Better. ## Same points as above. I'm personally interested in

Re: [Wikitech-l] git.wikimedia.org update

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: You can rely on the Gitblit urls, they're not going anywhere or changing. Gitweb I had been making promises of killing for a long long time (and never a promise of 1:1 mapping of all urls for rewriting), so here we are with

[Wikitech-l] Discussions regarding archtitecture at Wikimania

Hi folks, As many of you may recall, we had some great conversations in Amsterdam about how to move the architecture of MediaWiki forward (see notes from last meeting [1]) One of the many things we resolved to do was to have similar conversations when we had a critical mass of developers

[Wikitech-l] New Senior Software Engineer: Bryan Davis

Hi everyone, I'm pleased to welcome Bryan Davis to Wikimedia Foundation's Platform Engineering team. Bryan joins us from Keynetics in Boise, Idaho, where he was the senior programmer and architect on a team responsible for new product development, building the Kount fraud control system. Bryan

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of MediaWiki Release Management RFP

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Is there a status update regarding the MediaWiki Release Management RFP? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_Management_RFP#Timeline indicates that the goal for an announcement was the second week of July. Hi Mz, I'll

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deprecating use of the style attribute (part 1)

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to Matt and Daniel for your input so far. I would really appreciate some more heads commenting/voting on this so it is possible to start building this... Hi Jon, You probably want to make sure you link to it from

Re: [Wikitech-l] Separation of Concerns

On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/06/13 01:17, Tyler Romeo wrote: By saying you can only use OAuth if you're open source, it's the same as saying if you're closed source you must use insecure authentication methods. Because just saying OAuth must be

[Wikitech-l] Brian Wolff's summer gig, with Wikimedia!

Hi everyone, Many of you already know Brian Wolff, who has been a steady contributor to MediaWiki in the the past several years (User:Bawolff), having gotten a start during Google Summer of Code 2010[1]. Brian is back for another summer working with us, working generally to improve our

Re: [Wikitech-l] Brian Wolff's summer gig, with Wikimedia!

On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:29 PM, James Alexander jalexan...@wikimedia.org wrote: Someone else can very much correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that the difference is that this is as a normal contractor in that he's doing what is directed/needed rather then an accepted project on his

[Wikitech-l] Welcome, Nik Everett

Hi everyone It is my pleasure to introduce Nik Everett as a new Senior Software Engineer specializing in Search, working remotely from his home in Raleigh, North Carolina. Nik joins us from Lulu, a company founded by Bob Young[1] to enable anyone to publish a book (dealing with print,

[Wikitech-l] Architecture guidelines and RFCs

Hi folks, Many of us met at the Amsterdam Hackathon to discuss architecture guidelines (almost everyone with +2 in MediaWiki core, plus other knowledgeable people), and generally about the need to have more substantive conversations about MediaWiki architecture. It was a really productive

[Wikitech-l] HipHop forum/mailing list (was HipHop VM support....)

On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Dmitriy Sintsov ques...@rambler.ru wrote: On 12.05.2013 1:18, Tyler Romeo wrote: FWIW, here is what I have so far: http://pastebin.com/hUQ92DfB Perhaps you should send the link to HipHop developers (or to their list, if there's any). Unfortunately, they

Re: [Wikitech-l] HipHop forum/mailing list (was HipHop VM support....)

On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 05/12/2013 06:24 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Dmitriy Sintsov ques...@rambler.ru wrote: On 12.05.2013 1:18, Tyler Romeo wrote: FWIW, here is what I have so far: http://pastebin.com

[Wikitech-l] Roadmap page on mediawiki.org updated from spreadsheet

Hi folks, A few months back, we switched to updating the WMF Engineering Roadmap in Google Docs[1], and deprecated the on-wiki version. This wasn't an ideal solution, but the way that we were doing updates before also wasn't working, so it was worth trying something else. Now there's a

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Proposal: Let's move to a one-week deploy cycle

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: Extrapolating from our experience from two-week deploy cycles and what bugs we find at each stage, would moving to a one-week deploy cycle substantially increase the number of users exposed to really bad bugs?

Re: [Wikitech-l] High-resolution Score images for printing, hi-dpi displays: two possible ways?

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: I've done a little weekend hacking experimenting with adding higher-resolution output support for the Score extension -- the current PNG images look pixelated or fuzzy when printed or viewed on high-DPI (eg 'Retina')

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMF Engineering Roadmap Update - 20130417

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 8:13 AM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org wrote: Wow, thank you for pointing to Framasoft. Looks like they've got some really useful stuff going on there. Could be done very easily and

[Wikitech-l] Temporarily disabling l10n update

Hi folks, We've had at least a couple of site outages which we believe are due to l10nupdate. The root cause is identified in a fairly old ResourceLoader bug that seems to be biting us a little harder than it normally does: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27320 Disabling

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who is responsible for communicating changes in MediaWiki to WMF sites?

On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 23/03/13 03:26, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: On 03/21/2013 09:54 PM, Tim Starling wrote: Also, community managers generally see it as their responsibility to extract as much work from volunteers as possible The

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs and Lua modules

Hi Bináris, Could you file a bug report for this? I think I might be able to tease out what the bug is from your email, but it would be a lot better if you could document what the expected behavior is, and what the actual behavior is. Here's my attempt to describe the problem, but I don't want

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nightly shallow clones of mediawiki/core

Hi Ori, I'm at the office now, but (heh) that may be a tougher test than my home connection. More below On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: Rob, thanks for checking. I tried it yesterday and again just now, and in both cases it took around 15 minutes:

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