Re: [Wikitech-l] Ethical question regarding some code

For better or worse, it seems clear that the cat is out of the bag. Identity detection through stylometry is now an established technology and you can easily find code on GitHub or elsewhere (e.g. https://github.com/jabraunlin/reddit-user-id) to accomplish it (if you have the time and energy to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Book referencing proposal

he problem (T8271 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T8271>) is disappointing, IMO. On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 12:17 PM Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:56 AM Ryan Kaldari > wrote: > > > While we're at it, can we add a separate tag, > > so that we can add footno

Re: [Wikitech-l] Book referencing proposal

Sounds like a great idea. It's sad that dealing with references on Wikipedia is so complicated and requires knowing at least a dozen templates and things like hash linking if you want to do it right (or edit a featured article without breaking the references). Any efforts to simplify this with

Re: [Wikitech-l] Book scans from Tuebingen Digital Library to Wikimedia Commons

>There is no good OCR for languages like Malayalam. Google Drive will do OCR on Malayalam, Kannada, and Telugu. Google Vision API (which is usable from a Wikisource gadget built by Sam Wilson) will do OCR on Tamil. I can't vouch for these being

Re: [Wikitech-l] Breaking change in ORES API: "wp10" models are renamed to "articlequality"

Thanks for the update (and the switch to a less confusing score name)! Just to clarify, when you say "we might pull the plug after four weeks after this announcement," does that refer to wp10 just in the generic scores request (e.g. https://ores.wikimedia.org/v3/scores/enwiki/855137823) or also in

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC Discussion Wednesday - new namespace for collaborative judgments about wiki entities

It should also be noted that there are some existing stop-gap implementations for specific use-cases that could effectively be replaced by JADE such as the PageAssessments extension , the page tags system in the PageTriage extension

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

ng that that's a ban against the word "fuck" is a straw man. On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 4:13 PM MZMcBride wrote: > Ryan Kaldari wrote: > >It's possible to highlight abuses while still being respectful and > >collegial. No one is seriously arguing that criticism should be ban

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

It's possible to highlight abuses while still being respectful and collegial. No one is seriously arguing that criticism should be banned (or the word "fuck"). On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 3:50 PM MZMcBride wrote: > Ori Livneh wrote: > >MZMcBride has a very good ear for grievances, and he knows how

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

> this committee to make that call to begin with. > > -I > >> On 08/08/18 19:35, Ryan Kaldari wrote: >> With all the clamoring for transparency, has anyone considered the privacy >> implications for publicly documenting every complaint against a Phabricator >&g

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

With all the clamoring for transparency, has anyone considered the privacy implications for publicly documenting every complaint against a Phabricator user? That seems like it could have just as much of a chilling effect on participation, if not more, than the idea that you can be blocked for

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Phabricator spam - account approval requirement enabled

Hey Greg, Thanks for the update. Should we go head and start manually reverting the vandalism where we see it or is there any possibility of rolling everything back to before the attack? On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 10:57 PM Giuseppe Lavagetto < glavage...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Sun, Jul 1, 2018

[Wikitech-l] Adding a page creation log to MediaWiki

One of the projects that I worked on during the Hackathon was resolving the 11-year old request to add a page creation log to MediaWiki ( https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T12331). Up til now, we've logged page deletions and page moves, but not page creations. Having such a log is important for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Page previews promoted out of beta on all Wikipedias

A huge congratulations on this awesome project! I know it's been a slog, but hopefully worth the pain :) Nice work, everyone involved! On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Olga Vasileva wrote: > Hi all, > > Page previews[1] have now been promoted out of beta to the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sunsetting Trending Edits Service before the holiday

One interesting thing that I noticed about the trending edits API is that it was fairly useful in identifying articles that were under attack by vandals or experiencing an edit war. A lot of times a vandal will just sit on an article and keep reverting back to the vandalized version until an admin

Re: [Wikitech-l] need a URL encoding expert

rvers don't support this (I think its mostly some java > things that do). See > https://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/appendix/ > notes.html#h-B.2.2 > Modern HTML5 abandoned this reccomendation afaik. > > -- > Brian > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Ryan Kalda

[Wikitech-l] need a URL encoding expert

Could someone knowledgeable about URL encoding take a look at this pull request? Thanks! https://github.com/wikimedia/DeadlinkChecker/pull/26/files ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikitech-l] CommTech Showcase happening today!

Curious what the Community Tech team has been up to for the past few months? Come to our showcase presentation at 2pm PDT (9pm UTC) in room 112 (the super big conference room), or watch it on the public YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm02V1ytJ0Y We will be covering: * CodeMirror

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on Discovery Projects

Thanks Deb! One question: Does "As needed, assist with individual language Wikipedia’s implementation of mapframe" mean just help support the implementation on the wikis where mapframe is already deployed, or does it mean potentially deploying mapframe to additional wikis? On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at

[Wikitech-l] use of @inheritdoc

A question that came up during Documentation Day was whether or not we should use the @inheritdoc convention for indicating that methods are documented in parent classes (rather than leaving them blank). Some arguments for using it include: * It can help code-sniffers and linters know that the

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Documentation Day is tomorrow!

Tomorrow (or today if you're in Asia/Australia) is the day to take a break from writing code and instead devote some time to writing and updating documentation. If you're not sure what would be good to write about, here are some places with suggestions: *

[Wikitech-l] get ready for MediaWiki Documentation Day on May 12th!

Mark your calendars! Friday, May 12th has been designated MediaWiki Documentation Day. This is a day to put aside normal development work and focus on improving MediaWiki documentation. This includes documentation for users, wiki administrators, and developers. Anyone with a good understanding of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Turkey ban

I think that's the first time I've heard Wikipedia described as bewitching. I'll take it as a compliment. FWIW, I have a hard time parsing this as bad news. Someone hiring 20,000 professional writers to create a freely accessible (though not distributable) encyclopedia is probably a net

[Wikitech-l] Community Tech team seeking back-end developer for anti-harassment tools

Sorry for the spam, but the Community Tech team at the WMF is currently looking for an experienced back-end developer for the anti-harassment tools team (a sub-team of Community Tech). To read about the sort of work that team will be doing, see

[Wikitech-l] changing the default category collation for Wikimedia wikis

I've posted an RFC at ... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Switch_default_category_collation_to_UCA_collation_with_numeric_sorting ... proposing that we change the default collation for Wikimedia wikis from "uppercase" to "uca-default-u-kn" (Unicode Collation Algorithm with

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017: Registration Open

I'm a little confused. Under the "WMF Staff Questions" section of the registration it's asking "Why should you be sponsored by WMF to attend the Wikimedia Developer Summit?" and it says that "We will only be approving WMF staff to attend this event who are planning to actively engage...", etc.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Maintenance of WMF project footers

The footers are controlled at 3 different levels: * The interface messages built into MediaWiki * Hook handlers that override those interface messages with other interface messages specifically for Wikimedia projects in the WikimediaMessages extension * Local message overrides controlled by local

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to check in wikipedia that a page is an article or not ?

This is actually a bit complicated. If you have the title of an article, like "Earth", you would want to do an API query like: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query=Earth=pageprops You would then need to check 3 different things in the result: 1. Is the page in the main namespace ("ns":

Re: [Wikitech-l] Advice on using mustache for templating

Hi Smriti, As you probably know, there is built-in support for Mustache templates in MediaWiki: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:HTML_templates. So that will at least get you part way there. The only MediaWiki code I know of that currently uses HTML email is the Echo extension:

Re: [Wikitech-l] [[Link]]s deprecated?

Verdy_p (Philippe Verdy) is not a MediaWiki developer (or WMF employee), so there is no need to pay attention to his bizarre claim that [[Link]]s is deprecated (it isn't). On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 2:12 AM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > I really, really don't think that

[Wikitech-l] job opening with the WMF Community Tech team

The Community Tech team just posted a new job opening for a developer to join the team (http://grnh.se/xp3wfk). We are especially interested in hiring someone with knowledge of MediaWiki and the community. As you may know, the Community Tech team works on requests from the community, typically

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should we switch the default category collation to uca-default?

OK, so it sounds like the best way forward is: 1. For any wikis that have specific language versions of uca collation available (for example, uca-fr), but haven't yet switched to it, go ahead and switch them to that collation. This should take care of a few dozen wikis. 2. Start a discussion on

[Wikitech-l] Should we switch the default category collation to uca-default?

There are currently 94 WMF wikis using UCA category collation rather than the default "uppercase" collation. The Unicode Collation Algorithm (UCA) is the official standard for how to sort Unicode characters, and generally follows how a human would typically alphabetize strings. For example,

Re: [Wikitech-l] update: wikipedia.org portal

On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 12:01 PM, rupert THURNER wrote: > quim, i would not be angry if you would show a little bit more empathy > towards a client, a volunteer. if mzmcbride is right and there is a > well established procedure to change this page which was not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

> > This is why I was hoping > that someone could explain the technicalities of the U.S. energy system to > me – can't we simply ask our datacenter providers to order renewable energy > for our servers, maybe for an extra charge? This is what you can do in > Europe, but I have a feeling things are

Re: [Wikitech-l] tags are a usability nightmare for editing on mediawiki.org

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Brion Vibber wrote: > 2) Some/many pages use ... incorrectly: spanning > paragraphs, markup level boundaries, etc. > The documentation says to do it that way: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Page_translation_example

[Wikitech-l] Wikipedia in Pig Latin

Due to popular demand, I've implemented a patch to dynamically convert all Wikipedia content into Pig Latin. Give it a try and let me know what you think: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/280927/ Note that this implementation is language agnostic, but it works best with Latin scripts. For those

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Community Tech: November report

Also, we should mention that most of the work for Gadgets 2.0 was originally done by Timo and Kunal and they have been a huge help getting us up to speed on it. We should have a demo up on Labs soon for people to play with. On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Danny Horn wrote:

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

Would it be worth running a CentralNotice banner in January specifically for IE8 users to inform them of the change and encourage them to upgrade? On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Krinkle wrote: > Hey all, > > Starting in January 2016, MediaWiki will end JavaScript

Re: [Wikitech-l] Short license blocks

I totally support switching to license identifiers instead of headers, provided that we also switch our licensing from GPL to MIT or BSD ;) On a serious note, we do have a fair number of extensions that are MIT Licensed and could go ahead and adopt this (

Re: [Wikitech-l] Short license blocks

Romeo <tylerro...@gmail.com> wrote: > Are you saying adopting the short license blocks? Or the MIT license? > Because I'm not sure how the licenses of extensions would affect the > license headers in core. > On Oct 27, 2015 12:43, "Ryan Kaldari" <rkald...@wikimedia.o

Re: [Wikitech-l] can't get git-review to work

#git gave > > > Kaldari and idea and it worked but he forgot to update the mailing > > > list. > > > > > > Cheers Rosalie > > > > > > On 10/22/15, Antoine Musso <hashar+...@free.fr> wrote: > > > > Le 21/10/2015 22:47, Ryan Kald

[Wikitech-l] can't get git-review to work

Recently I upgraded my Mac to OSX 10.10.5 and upgraded a lot of other stuff in the process. But now I can't get git-review to work. Whenever I try to run it, it gives the following stacktrace: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/git-review", line 11, in sys.exit(main())

Re: [Wikitech-l] can't get git-review to work

> > > > Kevin Smith > Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > >> Recently I upgraded my Mac to OSX 10.10.5 and upgraded a lot of other >> stuff >> in th

[Wikitech-l] Announcing Danny Horn's move to Community Tech

. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Community_Tech_team 2. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Community_Tech_team/Community_Wishlist_Survey 3. https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/104264?t=k7xsjm Ryan Kaldari Engineering Manager, Community Tech Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

And in case that isn't decided, I would suggest CC0 so that we don't have to link to a big explanation from each tile rendering :) On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > What is the license for the map tiles, i.e. the cartography rather than &

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

; > *-- * > *Tyler Romeo* > Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 > Major in Computer Science > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > > > And in case that isn't decided, I would suggest CC0 so that we don't ha

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

What is the license for the map tiles, i.e. the cartography rather than the data? Open Street Maps uses CC-BY-SA, although they don't really make it clear who is supposed to be attributed. It looks like our tiles are different though. On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Tomasz Finc

Re: [Wikitech-l] renaming Wikimedia domains

be-x-old.wikipedia.org has been waiting to be renamed since 2007, so apparently it's not a quick process. On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Kartik Mistry kartik.mis...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: In a few projects the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Page Curation for other wikis

As Oliver said, the only reason PageTriage isn't available for every language is because, like Twinkle, it is closely tied to wiki-specific workflows and templates. Our original plan with PageTriage was to make it configurable on-wiki and get volunteers to configure it for each wiki. The extension

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tools for dealing with citations of withdrawn academic journal articles

Per earlier discussion in this thread... New mailing list created: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/community-tech The old mailing list will be deleted shortly. On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Tilman Bayer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tools for dealing with citations of withdrawn academic journal articles

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: 1. I was thinking of a tool that would let users input a variety of ways of referring to the retracted articles, such as DOI numbers (Peaceray is an expert in these). The tool would accept multiple inputs simultaneously, such

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tools for dealing with citations of withdrawn academic journal articles

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the info, Tilman. I ended up looking at the Community Tech page on MediaWiki, which says that their scope of work includes Building article curation and monitoring tools for WikiProjects, so the kind of tools that

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

The idea for this was presented at Wikimania where it received a very positive reception. Most of what I was going to say about it has already been covered by Frances, so I'll just add that I support it as well. On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote:

Re: [Wikitech-l] API returns empty strings for boolean fields?

That's pretty normal (but admittedly confusing). For example, if you do a query for a page property, it will return empty string for true and nothing for false (which both evaluate to false in PHP): https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=querytitles=Bugprop=pagepropsppprop=disambiguation

Re: [Wikitech-l] API returns empty strings for boolean fields?

Feel free to reopen the declined bug: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T15299 I've always supported making our API more intuitive, but every bug I file about it gets declined :( On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Brian Gerstle bgers...@wikimedia.org wrote: For example: mainpage field is

Re: [Wikitech-l] API returns empty strings for boolean fields?

Guess I shouldn't be so quick to complain ;) Thanks Anomie and others for finally fixing that 7-year-old bug! On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/28/2015 02:58 PM, Brian Gerstle wrote: Is this the desired behavior? Yes-ish. It's a leftover from

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community project ideas

Since the team doesn't even exist yet, it's probably going to be a bit nebulous for now. According to the announcements so far: The Community Tech team is focused on meeting the needs of active contributors to Wikipedia and the sister projects for improved, expert-focused curation and moderation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community project ideas

I created that page as a volunteer on personal time with my volunteer account while I was on vacation, so if you don't like the page, you should complain about me, not the Foundation. I don't work on the Community Tech team (although I have applied) and no one instructed me to make it. Nor did I

Re: [Wikitech-l] API result formatting changes (being announced a little late), for developers

Wow, this list of changes fixes a lot of things that I've hated about our API for a long time (no more star properties! no more setIndexedTagName errors! consistent JSON formatting!). I feel like it's Christmas! Thanks for all your hard work on this Brad! It is much appreciated. Kaldari On Fri,

[Wikitech-l] client-side HTML templating now in core

MediaWiki core now has built-in support for using Mustache HTML templates from your client-side Javascript code. You can also use the same templates on the server-side with the TemplateParser class. Documentation: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:HTML_templates#mw.template_.28client-side.29

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Global user pages deployed to all wikis

This is awesome! When do we get a global language pref? ;) On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! Global user pages have now been deployed to all public wikis for users with CentralAuth accounts. Documentation on the feature is available at

Re: [Wikitech-l] (no subject)

Welcome to the list Angela! Let us know if there's anything we can help with. Also you may want to join the IRC channels #wikimedia-dev and #wikimedia-tech. Cheers! Ryan Kaldari On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Angela lum neh lumneh.angela...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, am Angela. Am

Re: [Wikitech-l] Boil the ocean, be silly, throw the baby out with bathwater, demolish silos, have fun

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Help me out here. Why does anyone care that the article was last edited 13 days ago by Omeganian? And even if they do, why is that the very first thing that someone sees? This is rather off-topic, but to answer the question

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

free software can be used in non-free ways doesn't defeat the goals of the free software movement (unless you believe that the free software movement really intends to displace all non-free software, in which case the movement is a complete failure). /flamebait Ryan Kaldari

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata betalabs

I can log in as well. On Jan 22, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Are we using http://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/ ? I can't seem to login ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Working around composer? (Fatal error: Class 'Cdb\Reader' not found)

This may be a dumb question, but has anyone worked on creating a web interface for running update and maintenance scripts (and viewing associated logs)? That would probably make the whole process less painful and confusing for 3rd party users, especially if the interface offered some guidance on

Re: [Wikitech-l] S Page debuts as Technical Writer

Yay! This is great news! I can't think of anyone that would be better for this job. On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Rachel Farrand rfarr...@wikimedia.org wrote: So excited to have you on the team, S! Looking forward to skiing related ECT team offsites too. ;) Rachel On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at

[Wikitech-l] update on how to do local testing on WikiGrok

Since https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/180811/ is now merged, the old WikiGrok suggestion data is now obsolete. You'll want to delete the old entries in your wikigrok_questions table and replace them with new ones. The specific changes are that the format version number (wgq_version) has changed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

The main reason our captcha is easy for bots to bypass isn't because it's easy to read (it's not); it's because it works the same way as 90% of other captcha's on the internet. So if you're a spam-bot writer, all you have to do is download one of the dozens of generic captcha-breaking programs on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

are to be able to solve our captchas? Ryan Kaldari On Nov 6, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Jon Harald Søby jhs...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, My apologies if this is the wrong place to start a discussion on this, but it's a better place than nowhere. I recently took part in two very different Wikipedia workshops

Re: [Wikitech-l] Default language of the API changed/broken

parts of the mobile interface are no longer properly localized for logged in users, e.g. notifications. I'll look into this further when I get to the office. Ryan Kaldari On Nov 4, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Daniel Kinzler

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

10 quotation templates instead of 60 it would be a more manageable issue. One of these days I'll start an on-wiki RfC about this. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Quotation_templates Ryan Kaldari On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: On mobile we

Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of skins

Hey Jon, You mentioned that you might want to experiment with Knockoff support in Mantle. Are you still planning on doing that? Apparently Knockoff is more mature now than when I tested it in MobileFrontend, so it would be good to give it another trial run (and a 2nd opinion). On Thu, Sep 4,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is simplicity is the key to success of Echo and Watchlist?

notifications are about articles. - simplicity is the key to success Totally agree with that. Ryan Kaldari On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 10:20 PM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: Hi, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: tl;dr -- Matma Rex I tried for about an hour to summarize a concern. Can you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is simplicity is the key to success of Echo and Watchlist?

that new notifications should be opt-in by default unless they are critical.[2] 1. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo_%28Notifications%29#Scope 2. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo_%28Notifications%29/Developer_guide#Conventions Ryan Kaldari On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Derric Atzrott datzr

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

Is it really necessary for people to openly mock the work of a volunteer developer on the list? No wonder we have so few volunteer developers. On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/18/14, 8:47 AM, Chad wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Brad

Re: [Wikitech-l] Do we have a universal font in production?

://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector/AutonymFont Ryan Kaldari On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:48 AM, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.org wrote: In general, one font to rule them all is highly discouraged/impractical as a means to achieve reasonable results in a variety of world

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML templating progress; Knockout Components curly brace syntax

, but we would be squandering the opportunity, IMO, if our only templating system is too complicated for novice programmers to figure out how to use. If we can offer the best of both worlds, that seems like the ideal solution to me. Ryan Kaldari ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML templating progress; Knockout Components curly brace syntax

, as Knockout is introducing curly-brace syntax, which is more widely known and intuitive for building text nodes. Ryan Kaldari On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 07/08/2014 03:04 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: At a minimum, it would seem to affect deployment

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mantle - coding sharing between Flow and MobileFrontend

named the extension TemplateDooDad (and hadn't emphasized the fact that he was avoiding putting the code into core), it wouldn't have raised anyone's hackles. Ryan Kaldari On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Trevor, That email you quote was about totally

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mantle - coding sharing between Flow and MobileFrontend

/HTML_templating_library/Knockoff_-_Tassembly/Mobile_spike Ryan Kaldari On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org wrote: Indeed, this thread is a bit silly. If someone wants to make an extension that provides a feature, and someone else wants to use it, there's nothing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Background color

best bet on solving the rendering issue as it will show exactly what CSS rules are being applied from where. Ryan Kaldari On Jun 30, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Jeffrey Barish jeff_bar...@earthlink.net wrote: On Friday, 27 June 2014 16:35:17 Nick White wrote: Hi Jeff, On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 01:02

Re: [Wikitech-l] Background color

Works for me. I added the background-color rule to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaldari/vector.css and it took effect immediately. Ryan Kaldari On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Jeffrey Barish jeff_bar...@earthlink.net wrote: Until two days ago, I was able to modify the background color

Re: [Wikitech-l] Background color

I'm pretty sure that no body CSS in core has changed recently. According to Firebug, the only background-color rule that is applied to body on en.wiki is the one that Isarra mentioned (which doesn't use !important). Are you trying this on English Wikipedia or a different wiki? Ryan Kaldari

Re: [Wikitech-l] Browser tests for core

Nice work guys! One slight issue though. The user Selenium_user (as set in environment_variables) was just indefinitely blocked on en.wiki :( Ryan Kaldari On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Chris Steipp cste...@wikimedia.org wrote: I just +2'ed a change to add a few basic selenium tests to core

Re: [Wikitech-l] Separating Special:MyLanguage from Extension:Collection

for MyLanguage features on wikis that don't have (and wont have) translate. Are there any concerns with separating out that special page into it's own extension? Or even better, moving Special:MyLanguage into core. Ryan Kaldari ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Separating Special:MyLanguage from Extension:Collection

in their own language. Right now, wiki administrators have to override this message locally to point to the correct translation (after checking to see if it actually exists). (Added this information to the bug as well.) Ryan Kaldari On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 5:49 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML templating systems MediaWiki - is this summary right?

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: And Ryan Kaldari wrote on April 1: The mobile web team will be evaluating Gabriel's KnockoutJS template implementation sometime between April 14 and April 28. The things we will be looking at include: how

Re: [Wikitech-l] Implementation JSON based localisation format for MediaWiki nearly completed

like it would be more efficient to implement a post-processing script and keep the MediaWiki codebase consistent regarding indentation. Ryan Kaldari ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Implementation JSON based localisation format for MediaWiki nearly completed

Opened a bug here for the tabs: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63444 Otherwise, I'm glad to hear the migration is nearly complete. This should give us a lot more capabilities on the client-side. Great work on this effort! Ryan Kaldari On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Alolita

[Wikitech-l] Optimizing our captcha images

% wrong: Keep - just right 30-100% wrong: Delete - too hard Ryan Kaldari ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Optimizing our captcha images

test it. Ryan Kaldari ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML templating systems MediaWiki - is this summary right?

be involved in migrating our existing templates to it. We'll update the list with our findings then. Ryan Kaldari On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 04/01/2014 03:49 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: I'm eager to get some closure on the overall RFC about HTML

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Design] Requesting feedback on Project- UploadWizard: Openstreetmap embedding

against your implementation and see if there are any ideas that would be useful to incorporate. Ryan Kaldari On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Anu George Enchackal inchikutt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I would like to invite your feedback on [1] prototype of Project-'UploadWizard:OSM

Re: [Wikitech-l] short RfC review meeting Wednesday: five quick decisions

Just to let you know, the Mobile team is going to be evaluating Gabriel's work on templating within the next two weeks. It would also be useful to have someone from the Flow team evaluate it to see if it will meet their needs. Ryan Kaldari On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Sumana Harihareswara

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Design] Requesting feedback on Project- UploadWizard: Openstreetmap embedding

while the map is loading, rather than requiring an extra click to get to the actual map. The rest of the functionality seemed quite smooth and intuitive. Nice work! Ryan Kaldari On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Ryan Kaldari

Re: [Wikitech-l] CSS Regressions

I believe the Java Selenium driver can take screenshots. No idea about performing comparisons. Kaldari On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: I just wondered if anyone doing MediaWiki development had any experience in catching CSS regressions? We have had a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

is that it has an extremely small installation base (Chrome OS). What do people think of the following stack: Arimo, Liberation Sans, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; Ryan Kaldari On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.orgwrote: I spent most of Friday

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; } Additional feedback is welcome. Ryan Kaldari On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: I came across Gerrit change 79948[1] today, which makes VectorBeta use a pile of non-free fonts (with one free font thrown

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

Yes, we only looked at Latin fonts. We are working on an FAQ, however, that explains how wikis that use non-Latin scripts can specify their own font stack using MediaWiki:Vector.css. Ryan Kaldari On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Alolita Sharma asha...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Ryan

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