++the EFF for more ideas, they are actively doing great work on so-called
perfect forward secrecy.
There are simple things we could do to achieve a better balance between
privacy and sockpantsing, such as cryptolog [1], in which IP addresses are
hashed using a salt that changes every day. In
but maybe browser and preferences
fingerprinting would be more effective anyway, since: tor.
Probably not as effective as straight up blocking tor as we do now? :P
(Although seriously - I would love if we didn't block tor like we do
now. However you can't abuse the site with tor when you can't
The CC BY-SA license, used on most WMF projects, requires /attribution/.
Attribution for edits made by unregistered/unlogged users is done by the
exclusive means of their IP address.
By clicking the 'Save' button, they agreed to release their edits under
CC BY-SA, and that their IP address
On 7/18/14, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote:
The CC BY-SA license, used on most WMF projects, requires /attribution/.
Attribution for edits made by unregistered/unlogged users is done by the
exclusive means of their IP address.
By clicking the 'Save' button, they agreed to
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014, at 23:34, Gilles Dubuc wrote:
IP addresses are closely guarded for registered users, why wouldn't
anonymous users be identified by a hash of their IP address in order to
protect their privacy as well?
While I don't horribly mind some changes in the direction you're
(a little off topic diversion)
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 06:22:17PM +1000, Gryllida wrote:
An IP, as a fundamental identifier, has as much to do with privacy
as a car number you see on a street. (Anyone can look up a name by
car number, in my area, which I expect to be common.)
Actually
This interesting bot showed up on hackernews today:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8018284
While in this instance the access to anonymous' editors IP addresses is
definitely useful in terms of identifying edits with probable conflict of
interest, it makes me wonder what the history is
@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: July 11, 2014 at 9:34:18
To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Anonymous editors IP addresses
This interesting bot showed up on hackernews today:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8018284
While in this instance the access
wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Anonymous editors IP addresses
This interesting bot showed up on hackernews today:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8018284
While in this instance the access to anonymous' editors IP addresses is
definitely useful in terms
: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: July 11, 2014 at 9:34:18
To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Anonymous editors IP addresses
This interesting bot showed up on hackernews today:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8018284
...@wikimedia.org
Reply: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: July 11, 2014 at 9:34:18
To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Anonymous editors IP addresses
This interesting bot showed up on hackernews today:
https
in the
database.
--
Tyler Romeo
0x405D34A7C86B42DF
From: Gilles Dubuc gil...@wikimedia.org
Reply: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: July 11, 2014 at 10:59:55
To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Anonymous editors IP addresses
To my knowledge, there are currently six of these Twitter bots
(Canada, Denmark, France, Sweden, UK, US). I have collected them in a
Twitter list: https://twitter.com/palnatoke/lists/wikiedit
Please speak up if you notice more, so I can include them in the list, too.
Regards,
Ole
On Fri, Jul
Am 11.07.2014 17:19, schrieb Tyler Romeo:
Most likely, we would encrypt the IP with AES or something using a
configuration-based secret key. That way checkusers can still reverse the
hash back into normal IP addresses without having to store the mapping in the
database.
There are two problems
On Friday, July 11, 2014, Daniel Kinzler dan...@brightbyte.de wrote:
Am 11.07.2014 17:19, schrieb Tyler Romeo:
Most likely, we would encrypt the IP with AES or something using a
configuration-based secret key. That way checkusers can still reverse the
hash back into normal IP addresses
On Friday, July 11, 2014, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
This is one of those perennial proposals that never quite seems to take
off; I can remember having some version of this discussion back in 2008,
and I know that some of our earliest edits show a partially obscured IP
address, not the
I kinda like the idea of an
anonymous-but-consistent proto-account that can be transformed into a
named login if desired, but it needs to be thought out in more detail to
resolve potential difficulties.
One could automatically create a pseudo-account (Anonymous #12345) upon
first edit. And
On 11 July 2014 17:10, Gilles Dubuc gil...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Maybe it's a cookie-based approach you had in mind? Where we automatically
create an account tied to the user agent. That would mitigate the issue of
converting a pseudo-account that might have been shared between several
people
On 07/11/2014 11:45 AM, Brion Vibber wrote:
As I recall, UseModWiki (the perl-based wiki software we used before
switching to a custom solution which evolved into MediaWiki) obscured the
last octet of the IP address, which still left you with enough information
in most cases to track down an ISP
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