Re: [Wikitech-l] Ideas for tech-related IdeaLab Campaigns?

2015-12-08 Thread Quim Gil
About the original topic of this thread, thank you Chris for the note about this survey. I was hesitating about forwarding the email to this list and/or feature the link in the Developer Relations Weekly Summary, and you moved faster. :) A technical theme for IEG would be useful to channel

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ideas for tech-related IdeaLab Campaigns?

2015-12-08 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > > On the collateral topic of where to publish project concepts... it's > complicated. I think this deserves its own discussion in the context > of the WMF product development process in the drafts. I have created a > topic at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ideas for tech-related IdeaLab Campaigns?

2015-12-08 Thread Oliver Keyes
I don't think it's complicated; I think it's very simple. Put it in the venue where the audience you're aiming at will see it. For the IdeaLab, that's on-wiki. For purely technical tasks, that's Phabricator. The movement is about transparency, and that's more than posting publicly; transparency is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ideas for tech-related IdeaLab Campaigns?

2015-12-08 Thread Chris Schilling
Hi Rob, Oliver sums up my thoughts on this matter quite well; IdeaLab is pretty well-suited for building initial ideas, getting feedback from relevant communities at large, revising/expanding proposals, and preparing it for a WMF grant (we even have buttons that migrate IdeaLab proposals into

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ideas for tech-related IdeaLab Campaigns?

2015-12-07 Thread Oliver Keyes
As a long-time phabricator user (and long-time community member) I really don't get the desire to push this to Phabricator. This is not to say it is bad: it is good at what it is designed to do (handling technical tasks in an all-encompassing sorta way). But lately it feels like every conversation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ideas for tech-related IdeaLab Campaigns?

2015-12-07 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi Chris, I wonder if we can use Phabricator as an incubator for IdeaLab proposals? We already have the #possible-tech-projects tag in Phabricator [1], which seems like a sensible place to discuss the ideas amongst the people who have ideas in this area. I know there is some cynicism about the

[Wikitech-l] Ideas for tech-related IdeaLab Campaigns?

2015-12-07 Thread Chris Schilling
Hey everyone, I've recently initiated a consultation to help decide on topics for IdeaLab campaigns for the future, and I'm very interested in your input on what technical issues, gaps, or general features we could consider focusing our attention upon. These campaigns can generate novel

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ideas for tech-related IdeaLab Campaigns?

2015-12-07 Thread Brian Wolff
On 12/7/15, Chris Schilling wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I've recently initiated a consultation to help decide on topics for IdeaLab > campaigns for the future, and I'm very interested in your input on what > technical issues, gaps, or general features we could consider