Daniel Friesen wrote:
I wanted to use runkit but had issues installing
it. So I ended up messing with php's horrid proc_open to sandbox it in
another process to act as the vm in the case my system needs to extract
info from the wiki (not for virtualizing the actual wiki, that is done
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* Happy-melon happy-me...@live.com [Fri, 4 Jun 2010 00:33:30 +0100]:
One way to achieve this would be to develop the MediaWiki class to
actually
be what it originally
* Happy-melon happy-me...@live.com [Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:03:14 +0100]:
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One way to achieve this would be
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* Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com [Tue, 25 May 2010 20:58:54
+0200]:
2010/5/25 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com:
Having Wikimedia servers send HTTP requests to each other instead of
just doing database queries does not sound like a great idea to me.
You're hitting several
Dmitriy Sintsov wrote:
* Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com [Tue, 25 May 2010 20:58:54
+0200]:
2010/5/25 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com:
Having Wikimedia servers send HTTP requests to each other instead of
just doing database queries does not sound like a great idea to
Daniel Friesen wrote:
^_^ hackish isn't that bad in some sense. I'm currently experimenting
with some farm code that works completely outside of MediaWiki rather
than as a extension sitting inside of it. Using a sandbox it can get
access to the MediaWiki install and extract info from it in
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* Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com [Tue, 25 May 2010 20:58:54
+0200]
Having a something like FarmRequest or FarmApi classes would be a great
think for wiki farms (I run a
Platonides wrote:
Daniel Friesen wrote:
^_^ hackish isn't that bad in some sense. I'm currently experimenting
with some farm code that works completely outside of MediaWiki rather
than as a extension sitting inside of it. Using a sandbox it can get
access to the MediaWiki install and
* Happy-melon happy-me...@live.com [Fri, 4 Jun 2010 00:33:30 +0100]:
One way to achieve this would be to develop the MediaWiki class to
actually
be what it originally promised: an object representing a wiki, of
which
there can in principle be more than one instantiated at any one time.
I have updated my proposal with a fourth version [1]
I am still waiting for comments from Tim Starling. I have contacted
him on IRC for this.
[1]
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Peter17/Reasonably_efficient_interwiki_transclusion#Fourth_version_.(to_be_discussed)
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Peter Potrowl
@peter: here a recent thread into MediaWiki-API ml about API and sections:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-api/2010-May/subject.html
No mention of labelled sections used by #lst exstesion ... :-( but
remember the name of ThomasV as a reference.
Alex
Peter17 wrote:
I didn't set $wgUploadPath. Just $wgUseInstantCommons = true; The
images URLs are actually transformed to remote URLs:
I work on my own local wiki, which address is
http://localhost/mediawiki/ and transcluding
{{mediawikiwiki::User:Peter17}} which contains
2010/5/25 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
Seems it doesn't work so well. It was inadvertedly broken for wikitext
transclusions when the interwiki points to the nice url. See
'wgEnableScaryTranscluding and Templates/Images?' thread at mediawiki-l
Well, in my tests, images are well included
About the question from Alex about transcluding sections: is it
possible to request only a section through the API? I searched about
this but didn't find :(
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Ask ThomasV, #lst is particularly cared by him, to deepest level of
knowledge! I guess he met too your same
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Peter17 peter...@gmail.com wrote:
Mmmh sorry, I'm not really sure I understand... My suggestion is
to use a shared database that would store the remote calls, not the
content of the pages... In my mind, fetching the distant pages would
be done through the
Aryeh Gregor wrote:
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Q overlo...@gmail.com wrote:
I would have to suggest to not go the shared database route unless the
code can be fixed so that shared databases actually work with all of the
DB backends.
I don't see why it shouldn't be easy to get it
church.of.emacs.ml wrote:
However, you'd have to worry that each distant wiki uses only a fair
amount of the home wiki server's resources. E.g. set a limit of
inclusions (that limit would have to be on the home-wiki-server-side)
and disallow infinite loops (they're always fun).
Infinite loops
On 25 May 2010 15:30, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
church.of.emacs.ml wrote:
However, you'd have to worry that each distant wiki uses only a fair
amount of the home wiki server's resources. E.g. set a limit of
inclusions (that limit would have to be on the home-wiki-server-side)
and
(I'm going to use local wiki here for what Peter is calling distant
wiki, and foreign wiki for what he's calling home wiki. This
seems to better match the terminology we use for Commons.)
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Peter17 peter...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes. The shared database would be only
2010/5/25 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com:
Having Wikimedia servers send HTTP requests to each other instead of
just doing database queries does not sound like a great idea to me.
You're hitting several extra servers for no reason, including extra
requests to an application server.
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote:
This is true if, indeed, all parsing is done on the distant wiki.
However, if parsing is done on the home wiki, you're not simply
requesting data that's ready-baked in the DB and API calls make sense.
That's true -- if
2010/5/25 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com:
Templates will often miss the parser cache, because different
invocations will use different parameters. Even *with* the parser
cache, parsing is *still* one of the most expensive operations
Wikimedia does, so I'm not so sanguine.
I
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.comwrote:
To the point of whether parsing on the on the distant wiki makes more
sense: I guess there are points to be made both ways. I originally
subscribed to the idea of parsing on the home wiki so expanding the
same template
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote:
Also note that you wouldn't technically be parsing, just preprocessing
on the home wiki, which is certain to be less expensive (how much less
I don't know)
This is a good point.
and that you'd be doing this on some
Aryeh Gregor wrote:
Ok, I will keep this in mind. Parsing the template on the home wiki
seems necessary because it can use other templates hosted on that wiki
to render correctly... I think it is the most logical way to do, isn't
it?
I think parsing the template on the local wiki is better,
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
But I guess that's much better handled by just using a proper export,
and having the templates included in that, so never mind.
Yes. Perhaps they could have a Special:ImportFromRemote to do one-click
imports.
And this
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
There are imho fewer variables set by the caller wiki, which could be
passed with the query.
I don't get what you're saying here.
For intra-Wikimedia query, they could directly ask an apache. They can
even send the query
On 2010-05-25 23:41, Peter17 wrote:
2010/5/25 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
Seems it doesn't work so well. It was inadvertedly broken for wikitext
transclusions when the interwiki points to the nice url. See
'wgEnableScaryTranscluding and Templates/Images?' thread at mediawiki-l
Well,
2010/5/26 Jim Tittsler j...@onnz.net:
On 2010-05-25 23:41, Peter17 wrote:
2010/5/25 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
Seems it doesn't work so well. It was inadvertedly broken for wikitext
transclusions when the interwiki points to the nice url. See
'wgEnableScaryTranscluding and
Hello to all!
I'm a French student and I am participating the Google Summer of Code
this year on Mediawiki!
My mentor is Roan Kattouw (Catrope) and my subject is Reasonably
efficient interwiki transclusion. You can see my application page
here: [1].
I have already discussed with my mentor and
2010/5/24 Peter17 peter...@gmail.com
Hello to all!
I'm a French student and I am participating the Google Summer of Code
this year on Mediawiki!
My mentor is Roan Kattouw (Catrope) and my subject is Reasonably
efficient interwiki transclusion. You can see my application page
here: [1].
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 17:44, Peter17 peter...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello to all!
I'm a French student and I am participating the Google Summer of Code
this year on Mediawiki!
My mentor is Roan Kattouw (Catrope) and my subject is Reasonably
efficient interwiki transclusion. You can see my
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 17:44, Peter17 peter...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello to all!
I'm a French student and I am participating the Google Summer of Code
this year on Mediawiki!
My mentor is Roan Kattouw
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 18:48, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
The title of the subject is a bit confusing. Interwiki, for better
or worse, refers to interlanguage links.
No it doesn't. Interwiki links
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Peter17/Reasonably_efficient_interwiki_transclusion#Good_points
Seems it doesn't work so well. It was inadvertedly broken for wikitext
transclusions when the interwiki points to the nice url. See
'wgEnableScaryTranscluding and Templates/Images?' thread at
Hi,
On 05/24/2010 04:44 PM, Peter17 wrote:
It is now open for comments, so, could you please read it and let me
know about your remarks and suggestions, on this list and/or on the
talk page?
first of all, I let me tell you that I'm really excited about this
project. It may very well
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:42 PM, church.of.emacs.ml
church.of.emacs...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi,
On 05/24/2010 04:44 PM, Peter17 wrote:
It is now open for comments, so, could you please read it and let me
know about your remarks and suggestions, on this list and/or on the
talk page?
first
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On 5/24/2010 6:42 PM, church.of.emacs.ml wrote:
Hi,
On 05/24/2010 04:44 PM, Peter17 wrote:
It is now open for comments, so, could you please read it and let me
know about your remarks and suggestions, on this list and/or on the
talk page?
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Q overlo...@gmail.com wrote:
I would have to suggest to not go the shared database route unless the
code can be fixed so that shared databases actually work with all of the
DB backends.
I don't see why it shouldn't be easy to get it working with all DB
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