Re: [Wikitech-l] Revisiting becoming an OpenID Provider

2010-05-28 Thread Daniel Friesen
Ryan Lane wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Jon Davis w...@konsoletek.com wrote: I could see some real use cases for OAuth. Especially with regards to the cases mentioned above. People could potentially build apps like AWB and Huggle using OAuth. In general I think this would be a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revisiting becoming an OpenID Provider

2010-05-28 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Jon Davis w...@konsoletek.com wrote: As for being an OpenID provider... only one major thought:  Having this Foundation be a provider would be a lot of additional server load (It is 100% non-cacheable) without any benefit to the main goal of providing free

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revisiting becoming an OpenID Provider

2010-05-28 Thread Robb Shecter
I imagine the load wouldn't be a big deal. An OpenID server is pretty simple, no? Yeah. I couldn't imagine it adding much load. I've done several OpenID client implementations; so watching the conversation with the server, it seems like there's no overhead at all beyond a normal login

[Wikitech-l] Revisiting becoming an OpenID Provider

2010-05-27 Thread Robb Shecter
Here's the last post I could find on the subject: For my part, I'm firmly against joining the provider but not consumer camp. It's of no benefit to anyone . . . I just thought of a great benefit, however. Consider this true scenario: I want to write a MediaWiki API client for editors;

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revisiting becoming an OpenID Provider

2010-05-27 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Robb Shecter r...@weblaws.org wrote: Here's the last post I could find on the subject: For my part, I'm firmly against joining the provider but not consumer camp.  It's of no benefit to anyone . . . Not totally sure who wrote that. It may have been a while

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revisiting becoming an OpenID Provider

2010-05-27 Thread Mike.lifeguard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Robb Shecter wrote: But there's one problem: people would need to log in to Wikipedia *through my app*. They'd have to enter their username and password to my app, which would turn around an authenticate via the MediaWiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revisiting becoming an OpenID Provider

2010-05-27 Thread Jon Davis
I could see some real use cases for OAuth. Especially with regards to the cases mentioned above. People could potentially build apps like AWB and Huggle using OAuth. In general I think this would be a cool thing to have for all MediaWiki installs. As for being an OpenID provider... only one

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revisiting becoming an OpenID Provider

2010-05-27 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Jon Davis w...@konsoletek.com wrote: I could see some real use cases for OAuth.  Especially with regards to the cases mentioned above.  People could potentially build apps like AWB and Huggle using OAuth.  In general I think this would be a cool thing to have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revisiting becoming an OpenID Provider

2010-05-27 Thread Michael Dale
Robb Shecter wrote: Consider this true scenario: I want to write a MediaWiki API client for editors; something like the Wordpress Dashboard. Really give editors a modern web experience. I'd want to do this as a Rails app: I could build it quickly and find lots of collaborators via

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revisiting becoming an OpenID Provider

2010-05-27 Thread Robb Shecter
Not to derail the open-id idea I think we should support oAuth 100% and it certainly would help with persistent applications and scalability... I don't think that's a derail at all. I don't know OAuth that well, but it seems to provide the same benefits of OpenID Provider. Now... going to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revisiting becoming an OpenID Provider

2010-05-27 Thread Ryan Lane
Not to derail the open-id idea I think we should support oAuth 100% and it certainly would help with persistent applications and scalability... But ...for the most part you can build these types of applications in pure javascript.  Anytime you need to run an api action that requires you to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revisiting becoming an OpenID Provider

2010-05-27 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Robb Shecter r...@weblaws.org wrote: Not to derail the open-id idea I think we should support oAuth 100% and it certainly would help with persistent applications and scalability... I don't think that's a derail at all.  I don't know OAuth that well, but it