Re: [Wikitech-l] talk about MediaWiki groups in Berlin

2013-02-04 Thread Quim Gil
Just a reminder, this is today. If you are in Berlin you are invited to join. Explaining MediaWiki Groups is the main topic of the meetup but of course we can discuss other topics people are interested about. Bis bald! On 01/21/2013 04:03 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: Heya :) On the 4th of

[Wikitech-l] Gerrit 2.6 - coming to a server near you

2013-02-04 Thread Chad
Hi, After much delay, Gerrit 2.6 will be coming to our servers. This release brings a *lot* of really cool features and fixes, but I'd like to outline a couple of the major ones: * A stable, documented RESTful api * Plugin support: ** We'll be replacing Gitweb with Gitblit once the initial dust

[Wikitech-l] Extending Scribunto with new Lua functions

2013-02-04 Thread Jens Ohlig
Hello, I guess this can be answered by Tim or Victor, but I'm grateful for any pointers that can help me with a rather specific problem with Scribunto. I'm currently working on the Wikidata project to include Lua functions for templates that access Wikidata entities. I've toyed around a bit

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit 2.6 - coming to a server near you

2013-02-04 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 02/04/2013 06:44 AM, Chad wrote: ** We'll be replacing Gitweb with Gitblit once the initial dust of the upgrade settles Does this mean new links will be in place? I've used links like

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit 2.6 - coming to a server near you

2013-02-04 Thread Chad
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org wrote: On 02/04/2013 06:44 AM, Chad wrote: ** We'll be replacing Gitweb with Gitblit once the initial dust of the upgrade settles Does this mean new links will be in place? I've used links like

[Wikitech-l] testable javascript tutorial

2013-02-04 Thread Chris McMahon
Given the Javascript LevelUp Bootcamp sessions coming up, I thought this would be of interest: https://shanetomlinson.com/2013/testing-javascript-frontend-part-1-anti-patterns-and-fixes/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit 2.6 - coming to a server near you

2013-02-04 Thread Sébastien Santoro
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Does this mean new links will be in place? I've used links like https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki%2Fcore.git;a=commit;h=f04103185a071fc7ceb7f25daf1467791f2ae391 and it would be nice if those didn't break.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit 2.6 - coming to a server near you

2013-02-04 Thread Chad
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Sébastien Santoro dereck...@espace-win.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Does this mean new links will be in place? I've used links like

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extending Scribunto with new Lua functions

2013-02-04 Thread Brad Jorsch
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Jens Ohlig jens.oh...@wikimedia.de wrote: Here are my questions: 1. Is there an easy way to add your own Lua functions (that call PHP Api functions) to Scribunto other than writing them into LuaCommon.php? Yes. Probably the best example to look at right now is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extending Scribunto with new Lua functions

2013-02-04 Thread Daniel Werner
2013/2/4 Brad Jorsch bjor...@wikimedia.org: You'd add your library object in Lua as a child of the mw object. Sounds like same little mistake we are already dealing with in JavaScript, see:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extending Scribunto with new Lua functions

2013-02-04 Thread Gabriel Wicke
Hi Jens! On 02/04/2013 05:46 AM, Jens Ohlig wrote: I'm currently working on the Wikidata project to include Lua functions for templates that access Wikidata entities. I've toyed around a bit and extended LuaCommon.php with a getEntities function and a wikibase table to hold that function.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit 2.6 - coming to a server near you

2013-02-04 Thread Matthew Walker
If we can come up with some sane rewrite rules, I think we could redirect gitweb urls to gitblit. +1 -- like Mark I've used gitweb URLs in several places that I wouldn't like to see breaking (one of them is original source of images moved to commons from git). ~Walker

[Wikitech-l] Congrats Krenair, new core maintainer

2013-02-04 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
Just wanted to note that volunteer Alex Monk (Krenair) now has +2 rights in MediaWiki core and all extensions. https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Git%2FGerrit_project_ownershipdiff=640776oldid=638743 Alex joined our community as a developer about a year ago and has consistently been

[Wikitech-l] New repository sandbox

2013-02-04 Thread Chad
Hi everyone, I've setup a new repository called sandbox. The purpose of this repository is simple--it's meant to be a home for one-liners, quick patches, and other things that don't have a proper home. I've made pushing review permissions super liberal on it (as in, granted to all registered

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: IRC office hours with the Editor Engagement Experiments team

2013-02-04 Thread Steven Walling
Sorry for cross-posting, but for MediaWiki developers, this is a good opportunity to ask any questions you might have about the newly-released Extension:GuidedTour, and how to leverage it to build any tours yourself. -- Forwarded message -- From: Steven Walling

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: IRC office hours with the Editor Engagement Experiments team

2013-02-04 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/04/2013 03:58 PM, Steven Walling wrote: Sorry for cross-posting, but for MediaWiki developers, this is a good opportunity to ask any questions you might have about the newly-released Extension:GuidedTour, and how to leverage it to build any tours yourself. Specifically, any extension

Re: [Wikitech-l] Audio derivatives, turning on MP3/AAC mobile app feature request.

2013-02-04 Thread Brion Vibber
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: On 03.02.2013, 2:02 Brion wrote: On Feb 2, 2013 1:45 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Your system does not seem to support OGG audio format. Downloading this file without ogg support may need a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Audio derivatives, turning on MP3/AAC mobile app feature request.

2013-02-04 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
It seems Opus is going full speed ahead with both Mozilla and Chrome already supporting it in beta. Any plans for that? http://www.infoworld.com/d/applications/webrtc-creates-interop-between-chrome-and-firefox-212230

[Wikitech-l] Varnish Caching - Using ESI

2013-02-04 Thread Matthew Walker
All, The Fundraising and Mobile teams have been scheming about how we can start to use the capabilities of the Varnish cache in our respective extensions. Mobile already does use ESI, but this would be extensions to it. As I know multiple other parties have been thinking along the same lines,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit 2.6 - coming to a server near you

2013-02-04 Thread Chad
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, After much delay, Gerrit 2.6 will be coming to our servers. This release brings a *lot* of really cool features and fixes, but I'd like to outline a couple of the major ones: * A stable, documented RESTful api *

Re: [Wikitech-l] Varnish Caching - Using ESI

2013-02-04 Thread Ryan Kaldari
There's already an RfC on this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Partial_page_caching Ryan Kaldari On 2/4/13 2:42 PM, Matthew Walker wrote: All, The Fundraising and Mobile teams have been scheming about how we can start to use the capabilities of the Varnish cache in our

Re: [Wikitech-l] Varnish Caching - Using ESI

2013-02-04 Thread Matthew Walker
Ah shoot -- well -- I'll merge them then and retire my RfC. Thanks Kaldari On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: There's already an RfC on this: https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/Requests_for_comment/**

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews

2013-02-04 Thread Arthur Richards
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:35 AM, Asher Feldman afeld...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Regarding varnish cacheability of mobile API requests with a logging query param - it would probably be worth making frontend varnishes strip out all occurrences of that query param and its value from their backend

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews

2013-02-04 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Asher, I understand your hesitation about using HTTP header fields, but there are a couple problems I'm seeing with using query string parameters. Perhaps you or others have some ideas how to get around these: * We

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews

2013-02-04 Thread Arthur Richards
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.org wrote: Asher, I understand your hesitation about using HTTP header fields, but there are a couple problems I'm seeing with using query string

Re: [Wikitech-l] Varnish Caching - Using ESI

2013-02-04 Thread Arthur Richards
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Mobile already does use ESI, but this would be extensions to it. Not in production. We've done some experimentation with ESI and have some implementations of Varnish ESI in MobileFrontend sitting in a remote branch that

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews

2013-02-04 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.org wrote: * How could this work for the first pageview request (eg a user

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews

2013-02-04 Thread Arthur Richards
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Arthur Richards

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews

2013-02-04 Thread Asher Feldman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Asher, I understand your hesitation about using HTTP header fields, but there are a couple problems I'm seeing with using query string parameters. Perhaps you or others have some ideas how to get around these: * We

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews

2013-02-04 Thread Asher Feldman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.orgwrote: In the case of the cookie, the header would actually get set by the backend response (from Apache) and I believe Dave cooked up or was planning on cooking some magic to somehow make that information discernable when

[Wikitech-l] Merge Vector extension into core

2013-02-04 Thread Sébastien Santoro
Good evening, Hashar and me discussed about the Vector extension this morning on #wikimedia-tech and we wonder if the code shouldn't be merged to core. Rationale: Vector is the main design of our product and the Vector extension contains enhancement for this skin. -- Best Regards,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews

2013-02-04 Thread Asher Feldman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Asher Feldman afeld...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.orgwrote: In the case of the cookie, the header would actually get set by the backend response (from Apache) and I believe Dave cooked up or was

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge Vector extension into core

2013-02-04 Thread maiki
Core of MediaWiki, or core of the Vector skin? I am fine with doing that for the skin, but I would keep it out of MediaWiki. The design is going to change, and lots of folks use different skins and don't use the extension. maiki On 02/04/2013 06:02 PM, Sébastien Santoro wrote: Good evening,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Audio derivatives, turning on MP3/AAC mobile app feature request.

2013-02-04 Thread Michael Dale
Yes' all that changed is we added support for audio derivatives. We have not enabled mp3 or AAC. The same code can be used for flac - ogg or whatever we configure. On Feb 3, 2013 2:33 AM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: Just to be sure that I'm reading this right - nothing actually changed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: IRC office hours with the Editor Engagement Experiments team

2013-02-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The UI obviously should be internationalised. Obviously this will enable the software in other languages. But when a tour is to be translated, it is not internationalisation, it is translation. The point is that translation and internationalisation/localisation are quite different and they