Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC meeting this week

Am 28.10.2015 um 07:44 schrieb Tim Starling: > In the next RFC meeting, we will discuss the following RFC: > > * Dependency Injection for MediaWiki core > I'll be there. Luckily, I just realized that it's an hour earlier than usual, due to Daylight

[Wikitech-l] RFC: make Parser::getTargetLanguage aware of multilingual wikis

E89> [2] <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114640> [3] <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114662> -- Daniel Kinzler ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: make Parser::getTargetLanguage aware of multilingual wikis

Quick poke: the IRC discussion is coming up on #wikimedia-office in less than two hours, at 22:00 UTC. -- daniel Am 10.11.2015 um 20:07 schrieb Daniel Kinzler: > Hi all! > > Tomorrow's RFC discussion[1] on IRC (22:00 UTC at #wikimedia-office) will be > about my proposal to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Mail marking Phabricator and Gerrit notification emails as spam

You can whitelist mails from wikimedia.org via gmail's web interface: http://email.about.com/od/gmailtips/qt/et_whitelist.htm Am 14.10.2015 um 19:35 schrieb Greg Grossmeier: > Just FYI for those on Google-hosted email. > > See: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115416 > > TL;DR: Check your

Re: [Wikitech-l] [RfC] Content model storage

Am 12.07.2015 um 03:29 schrieb Legoktm: Hi, I've written up an RfC to change the way we currently store a page's and revisions' content model and format: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Content_model_storage in the database. Please leave comments on the talk page.

[Wikitech-l] Developer Summit planning: code quality sessions

Hi all! If you are interested in code quality and you are attending the Dev Summit, please have a look at . I would appreciate any input on which additional sessions you think are important, or how you would prioritize and group them. Any session

Re: [Wikitech-l] Enabling shared tabular data pages

Am 04.06.2016 um 18:47 schrieb Yuri Astrakhan: > In line with the "release early, release often", we will not have any > elaborate data editing interface beyond the raw JSON code editor for the > first release. A word of caution about this strategy: this is great for user facing things, but it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Enabling shared tabular data pages

Am 06.06.2016 um 15:40 schrieb Yuri Astrakhan: > Do you have any thoughts about the proposed data structure? The structure looks sane and future-proof to me, but since it's all-in-one-blob, it'll be hard to scale it to more than a few ten thousand lines or so. I like this model, but if you want

[Wikitech-l] Per-language URLs for multilingual wikis (RFC T114662)

Hi all! During next Wednesday's RFC meeting on IRC, we are planning to discuss introducing "Per-language URLs for pages of multilingual wikis". This is an exploratory discussion, with no expectation of a final decision. We are looking for concerns and suggestions. If you care about improved

[Wikitech-l] Mass migration to new syntax - PRO or CON?

Now that we target PHP 5.5, some people are itching to make use of some new language features, like the new array syntax, e.g. . Mass changes like this, or similar changes relating to coding style, tend to lead to controversy. I want to make sure we

[Wikitech-l] Today's RFC meeting on IRC: Per-language URLs for multilingual wiki pages

llowing time: * UTC: Wednesday 22:00 * US PST: Wednesday 14:00 * Europe CET: Wednesday 23:00 * Australia AEDT: Thursday 09:00 -- Daniel Kinzler ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinf

[Wikitech-l] RFC: Expiring watchlist entries

they can't make it to the live meeting. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] RFC meeting (E148): Review backlog, Thumb API

Hi everyone, We plan to discuss two RFCs at the 2016-03-16 RFC Meeting (21:00 UTC on Wednesday, that's 2pm Pacific, 22:00 CET, beware the DST shift between US and Europe!): * Use content hash based image / thumb URLs & define an official thumb API

[Wikitech-l] Review Service Locator / DI Container proposal (upcoming RFC discussion on March 23)

Hi all! Over the last couple of months, I have worked on introducing a dependency injection mechanism into MediaWiki core (don't fear, no auto-wiring). My proposal is described in detail at (yea, TL;DR - just read the top and search the rest if you have

Re: [Wikitech-l] productivity of mediawiki developers

I personally reserve -2 for "this is a fundamentally bad idea" or "this requires community consensus before being implemented". Anything that is fixable in the code should get a -1 or 0. Btw, I personally prefer to get -1 reviews over 0 reviews, simply because it's easier to spot them as "todo"

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia in Pig Latin

Am 01.04.2016 um 19:08 schrieb C. Scott Ananian: > On a somewhat serious note, I'm a big fan of enabling pig Latin as a > language variant in enwiki. Yes, please! I have been using a patch that Liangent wrote a few years ago, but which never got merged, for exactly this purpose. Piglatin may

Re: [Wikitech-l] MathML is dead, long live MathML

Am 07.04.2016 um 20:00 schrieb Moritz Schubotz: > Hi Daniel, > > Ok. Let's discuss! Great! But let's keep the discussion in one place. I made a mess by cross-posting this to two lists, now it's three, it seems. Can we agree on as the venue of discussion? At least

[Wikitech-l] MathML is dead, long live MathML

Peter Krautzberger, maintainer of MathJax, apparently thinks that MathML has failed as a web standard (even though it succeeded as an XML standard), and should be removed from HTML5. Here's the link: https://www.peterkrautzberger.org/0186/ It's quite a rant. Here's a quick TL;DR: > It doesn’t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia in Pig Latin

Am 05.04.2016 um 17:55 schrieb Bartosz Dziewoński: > On 2016-04-05 17:37, Jon Robson wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Daniel Kinzler <dan...@brightbyte.de> wrote: >>> Yes, please! I have been using a patch that Liangent wrote a few years ago, >>&g

Re: [Wikitech-l] MathML is dead, long live MathML

Am 07.04.2016 um 23:01 schrieb Paul Topping: > I have no problem with that but are some of these lists members-only? I was > told when I replied that my message would be reviewed by the moderator as I > wasn't a member. Perhaps that was the W3C list. Oh... both the Wikimedia lists are members

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom RFC update #4

Thanks for doing this, Gabriel! Am 07.04.2016 um 01:38 schrieb Gabriel Wicke: > This week things have been relatively quiet, with many engineers attending > the Jerusalem Hackathon > . Daniel and > others discussed dependency injection >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia in Pig Latin

Am 05.04.2016 um 21:47 schrieb Siebrand Mazeland: > We just had April fools. Please don't. A single test variant is fine, but > we don't need more. I realize that this was probably a joke. But i do think it would be useful. I'd be fine with making this an extension though, instead of baking it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Review Service Locator / DI Container proposal (upcoming RFC discussion on March 23)

Quick reminder: this is coming up today on #wikimedia-office. See <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E150> for details. Am 18.03.2016 um 20:44 schrieb Daniel Kinzler: > Hi all! > > Over the last couple of months, I have worked on introducing a dependency > injection mechan

Re: [Wikitech-l] Review Service Locator / DI Container proposal (upcoming RFC discussion on March 23)

experiments to vet this proposal against. thanks, daniel Am 23.03.2016 um 19:04 schrieb Daniel Kinzler: > Quick reminder: this is coming up today on #wikimedia-office. > See <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E150> for details. > > > Am 18.03.2016 um 20:44 schrieb Dani

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving Wikimedia's Code Review process

There will be an RFC meeting tonight about this: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E148 One thing that I don't remember coming up during the summit is: Can we perhaps get all the people with +1 rights to use them and actually review stuff? So that people with +2 rights can look at things that

[Wikitech-l] Today's RFC session: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap

nfo=interwikimap could be ported to Sites and expose more information. Distinction from SiteMatrix is becoming somewhat unclear then. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. __

[Wikitech-l] Installer broken on master, please merge the fix!

Adam noticed that I broke the installer when introducing MediaWikiServices (see T135169). In particular, localization and CSS stopped working. Here's the fix: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/288648/ Please review! -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland

Re: [Wikitech-l] Best practice for WIP patches to help code review office hours

Am 13.05.2016 um 18:23 schrieb Greg Grossmeier: > >> Gerrit also has drafts... > > Drafts are only visible to the author, unfortunately. And anyone the author adds as a reviewer. Works nicely in my experience. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the "correct" content model when rev_content_model is NULL?

... configuration in the database is nasty to maintain by hand, and also annoying for extensions that define content models. Do we introduce a simple hook that makes sure the content model and format gets registered in the database? Am 11.07.2016 um 21:26 schrieb Daniel Kinzler: > Hi Jaime, tha

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the "correct" content model when rev_content_model is NULL?

ocumentation that defines and explains these concepts? Currently, there is only <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595>. I plan to move it to a wiki page and update it with the current draft and open questions from the various discussions. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software De

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the "correct" content model when rev_content_model is NULL?

Am 12.07.2016 um 12:25 schrieb Jaime Crespo: > Your last question is a non issue for me- I do not care if things are > on the database or on configuration- that is not the issue I have been > complaining about. Yea, still something we need to figure out :) I'm fine with the DB based solution, if

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the "correct" content model when rev_content_model is NULL?

Am 12.07.2016 um 13:23 schrieb Jaime Crespo: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Daniel Kinzler > <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> wrote: >> Yea, still something we need to figure out :) > >> That was, if I remember correctly, one of the arguments for using readable >&

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the "correct" content model when rev_content_model is NULL?

mpact than the other, that may tip the scale the other way... But in any case, it seems we have to just fix the data in the database to get around the issue. My problem is now, when installing Wikibase, how do we detect which revisions need rewriting? -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software De

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the "correct" content model when rev_content_model is NULL?

in the process. What do you think? Am 11.07.2016 um 14:27 schrieb Jaime Crespo: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Daniel Kinzler > <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> wrote: >> It seems there is disagreement about what the correct interpretation of NULL >> in >> the rev_c

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the "correct" content model when rev_content_model is NULL?

Am 12.07.2016 um 17:02 schrieb Brad Jorsch (Anomie): > On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 4:40 AM, Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de > > One simple method: assign the numeric IDs by making the numeric ID column > auto-increment, and insert the model strings into the table as needed

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the "correct" content model when rev_content_model is NULL?

Am 12.07.2016 um 18:00 schrieb Rob Lanphier: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de >> The original design of ContentHandler used integer IDs for content models >> and formats in the DB. A mapping to human readable names is only nee

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the "correct" content model when rev_content_model is NULL?

, they are not concerned with the internal ids. They are considered an internal optimization, an implementation detail. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] What's the "correct" content model when rev_content_model is NULL?

fields in old revisions when converting a page. I think it would be a good thing to do that. If we have the content model change between revisions, it seems prudent to record it explicitly. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutsch

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Status & Meeting Minutes, WD5

ery; similarity to template-data would be good for consistency. * Daniel is working on [[phab:T152425]]: "make use of varnish xkey" and [[phab:T154674]]: "HookRunner"; these are soon to become RFCs. -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Plat

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deprecation logging in production

But that's only removals, not deprecation. -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Status & Meeting Minutes, WD4

/Content_model_storage -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Status & Meeting Minutes, WD6

is how this relats to ResourceLoader. * [[phab:T129842]]: Launch the Wikimedia "Code Review Special Interest Group" has gained some tracktion. Quim is looking for participants! * Schema migration for the oldimage table pending implementation: [[phab:T28741]] -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Eng

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Status & Meeting Minutes, WD3

rbitrary wiki page's default category sort key -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Status & Meeting Minutes, WD3

Am 18.01.2017 um 21:45 schrieb MZMcBride: > Daniel Kinzler wrote: >> * ArchCom is considering changes to the RFC process. Discussion is >> ongoing. > > Where is discussion ongoing? Internally. We have to decide on a MO. I'm sharing this summary here to keep you posted, an

Re: [Wikitech-l] Final Call for Comments on the Content Model Storage RFC

. Implementation work and deployment schedule should be coordinated with the imminent work on Multi-Content-Revisions. If you are going to work on Content Model Storage, please talk to me first. Thanks, Daniel Am 14.12.2016 um 12:29 schrieb Daniel Kinzler: > Hi all! > > This is a Final Call for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Final Call for Comments on the new Deprecation Policy for PHP code

being raised. The RFC is thus approved. The deprecation policy as described in the RFC should be considered official policy. Regards, Daniel Am 16.12.2016 um 07:04 schrieb Daniel Kinzler: > Hi all! > > At the ArchCom office hour (aka RFC IRC meeting) on December 14, we discussed &g

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2016W33 ArchCom-RFC meeting: Revisiting Content model storage

with the original proposal or with the modified version (or start over). Either way, I hope we can get this moving again. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] No ArchCom IRC office hour planned for this week (2016W37)

iki/Multi-Content_Revisions/Content_Meta-Data> -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mail

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cleaning up ContentHandler technical debt (was Re: Opening up MediaWiki dev summit in January?)

Am 15.09.2016 um 19:06 schrieb Legoktm: > On 09/15/2016 01:09 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > Lovely! I just filed about 20 tasks on cleaning up ContentHandler's > technical debt (you know, just in time to rewrite it all over again), > help would be appreciated! <https://phabricato

Re: [Wikitech-l] Opening up MediaWiki dev summit in January?

Am 15.09.2016 um 18:53 schrieb Rob Lanphier: > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 1:09 AM, Daniel Kinzler > <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> wrote: >> Am 15.09.2016 um 01:54 schrieb Chad: >>> Bummer. I think paying down tech debt is fun and way more rewarding >>> than maki

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to check that the page contents has change from API

I know I can always do 2 API calls, one for the page and one for > the item, but that's time consuming. > > Thanks, > Strainu > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mai

Re: [Wikitech-l] Opening up MediaWiki dev summit in January?

Am 15.09.2016 um 01:54 schrieb Chad: > Bummer. I think paying down tech debt is fun and way more rewarding > than making shiny new things. > > But I'm also weird as hell... /me waves to a kindred soul. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gese

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom IRC office hour: Content Meta-Data Storage for MCR

ata> [2]: <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E261> [3]: <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E273> Upcoming meeting [4]: <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_committee/Status> -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förd

[Wikitech-l] Feedback wanted: Mutli-Content-Revisions draft

the experiment has progressed since the draft, in others, the draft contains lessons learned from the experiment that never made it into code. The canonical proposal is always the one on the wiki. Please comment on the talk pages. Thanks! -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia De

Re: [Wikitech-l] Public Event Streams (AKA RCStream replacement) question

ir use cases > (it was about Wikidata change invalidation on third-party wikis, I think). > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- Daniel Kinzler Senior

[Wikitech-l] 2016W45 ArchCom-RFC meeting: official thumb API

appologies for initially linking to the wrong RFC in [E355]. [E355]: <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E355> [T66214]: <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214> [ArchComStatus]: <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ArchComStatus> -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wik

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Status & Meeting Minutes

i pages'' (T114662). -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Per-language URLs for multilingual wiki pages (RFC discussion on Wednesday)

this first? * How do we make a wiki-link to a specific language version of a page? If you are interested, please comment on the ticket[2] and join the meeting[1]. [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E384 [2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114662 -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer

[Wikitech-l] RFC board grooming/triage (2016W46 ArchCom-RFC meeting)

chcom-rfc/> [ArchComStatus]: <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ArchComStatus> -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.w

[Wikitech-l] Final Call for Comments on the new Deprecation Policy for PHP code

] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Deprecation [3] https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2016/wikimedia-office.2016-12-14-22.04.html [4] https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2016/wikimedia-office.2016-12-14-22.04.log.html -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia

[Wikitech-l] Final Call for Comments on the Content Model Storage RFC

/Requests_for_comment/Content_model_storage [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142980 [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multi-Content_Revisions/Content_Meta-Data#Database_Schema -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikitech-l] Arbitrary Wikidata querying

ct design is > 80% of the work, so...). Visualizations already have query capabilities > (mainly because they have strong caching model embedded and because > there are not too many of them and you need to create them so we can > watch the load carefull

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom RFC Meeting W51: Deprecation policy for PHP code in MediaWiki (2016-12-14, #wikimedia-office)

iawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Deprecation_policy> [ArchComStatus]: <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ArchComStatus> -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Meeting Minutes (2016-12-07)

ish’s xkey feature in Wikibase (T152425) (Daniel) * Victoria suggest to have a regular meeting to review/prioritize technical debt. ArchCom to be invited. * Lego’s Deprecation Policy RFC (T146965) to be discussed on December 14. Fallback: thumb API (T66214). -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software De

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Status & Meeting Minutes (WD48)

the charter draft. ** Plan to revive content model storage RFC (T105652), which got tangled with multi-content-revisions. ** RFC on oldimage table refactoring ready to go on last call next week (T589) ** Deprecation policy (T146965) to be discussed next week (Dec 7) -- Daniel Kinzler Senior

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom office hour today: talök about the DevSummit

) and place (#wikimedia-office). For an overview of ArchCom activity, see [ArchComStatus]. -- Daniel [ArchComStatus]: <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ArchComStatus> -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wisse

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Minutes 2017-03-22

oming RFC discussion, Wednesday, March 29: * “Canonical data URIs and URLs for machine readable page content” <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161527>. * The discussion will take place in the IRC channel #mediawiki-office on Wednesday 21:00 UTC (2pm PDT, 23:00 CEST). -- Daniel Kinzler P

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Minutes 2017-03-22

Am 27.03.2017 um 21:57 schrieb Marko Obrovac: > Did you mean(TM) #wikimedia-office ? :) Haha! Of course. After all these years, I still get it wrong sometimes! Thanks! -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Minutes, News, and Outlook

will aid in searchability. > > Thanks, > > Risker/Anne > > On 17 March 2017 at 09:52, Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> > wrote: > >> Hi all! >> >> Here are the minutes from this week's ArchCom meeting. You can also find >> the >&

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Minutes, News, and Outlook

am to work. * We did not come close to the 25 person limit for hangout. * Using IRC for logging is useful. Relaying questions and notes between IRC and Hangout works, but takes effort. * Please give feedback about using Hangout for this kind of meeting! No public meeting planned for next week (

Re: [Wikitech-l] Letting configurations override namespace registration of extensions

Since I reported the issue, I'd like to provide some context and feedback Am 21.03.2017 um 19:18 schrieb Amir Tafreshi: > Hey, > There is a bug (or a feature, depends on how you see it) in mediawiki > extension namespace registration [1]. If an extension registers a > namespace, there is no way

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing JSON in MediaWiki

izing Scribunto, but this seems to right place to plug this in. The alternative is to try to have some kind of "cascading" ContentHandler, that generates a WikiTextContent object first, and then turns that into HTML. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellsc

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing JSON in MediaWiki

tter for that than JSON is. And Wikitext is designed to mix well with HTML. -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.w

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Minutes 2017-03-29

nent concerns are raised during the last call period, the RFC will be approved an April 12. * There is no public RFC discussion scheduled for next Wednesday, April 5. -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. __

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing JSON in MediaWiki

ons, from UI design to law making! -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Radar, 2017-04-05

pm PDT, 23:00 CEST). -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Radar, 2017-04-12

g/T161647. ArchCom likes the idea, but the RFC could use some more fleshing out (what needs changing, what are the priorities, what should be kept and why, etc) -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung

[Wikitech-l] Final Call for comments: RFC Canonical data URLs for machine readable page content

y of the concerns raised and addressed. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

instead of using IRC. Other topics: * Tim Starling has been looking at etcd <https://coreos.com/etcd/> for configuration management and potentially other use cases. See also T149617 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149617>. -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutsc

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

izationUpdate, see [[phab:T158360]] * The new MediaWiki team is up and running, with Tim Starling in the lead. There is a job opening for Product Manager for MediaWiki, see https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/613548?gh_src=1u385n1 -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschlan

Re: [Wikitech-l] Last Call: ArchCom/TechCom Charter

Hi Nemo! Thanks for your comments. Please note that the last call period is over, and the charter has been officially adopted on Wednesdays. I mentioned this in the Radar email yesterday. I'll send out a separate announcement today. You wrote: > Daniel wrote: >> This finally gives the committee

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom adopts Charter, becomes TechCom

o undo. The committee has also given itself a new name, to better fit the scope as defined in the charter: we are now the Wikimedia Technical Committee (TechCom). Daniel Kinzler TechCom Chair ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Last Call: ArchCom/TechCom Charter

y comparable. What I was getting at is: for volunteer developers, the new charter effectively changes nothing. Except perhaps that they gain some more influence on wmf development via TechCom, which now has at least some authority within the wmf org chart. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Develope

Re: [Wikitech-l] Last Call: ArchCom/TechCom Charter

kplace satisfaction at the WMF - that's an entirely different topic. I sure hope that the involvement of TechCom in certain questions doesn't make people's job horribly frustrating now. I rather hope it would reduce frustration, at least in the long run. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Timeless skin now available on mw.org

> Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wik

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Radar, 2017-07-12

week: Migrate to HTML5 section ids <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152540> As always, the discussion will take place in the IRC channel #wikimedia-office on Wednesday 21:00 UTC (2pm PDT, 23:00 CEST). -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschla

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Radar, 2017-07-05

le, but decided that this is really a product decision, depending on the desired behavior. * There is no IRC meeting scheduled for next week, as the Architecture Committee will focus on finalizing the Charter. Last minute comments are welcome on the talk page. <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Arch

[Wikitech-l] Last Call: ArchCom/TechCom Charter

basis of the committee's operation and authority. Note: with the new charter comes a rebranding: ArchCom becomes TechCom, the Wikimedia Technical Committee! We think the name better fits the scope of the committee as defined by the charter. -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deuts

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Radar, 2017-07-19

gt; * Renewed interest in shadow namespaces: <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91162> * Approved after Last Call: Deprecate use of php serialization <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161647> * No public meeting on IRC next week -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer W

Re: [Wikitech-l] Last Call: ArchCom/TechCom Charter

nd volunteer contributors when making high impact technical decisions. Regards, Daniel PS: Please note that this is my personal view. The view of other committee members may differ. Am 20.07.2017 um 18:52 schrieb MZMcBride: > Daniel Kinzler wrote: >> Over the last couple of mont

[Wikitech-l] TechCom Radar, 2017-07-26 (was: ArchCom Radar)

n team is working on refactoring RecentChanges/Watchlist code * Mobile team(s) working on a new content API <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162179> -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. _

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Radar, 2017-06-28

eorg: <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166010#3369408> * Support for /data/ URLs is coming, see <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T163921> and subtasks. -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Final Call for comments: RFC Canonical data URLs for machine readable page content

This RFC has been approved for implementation. No objections were raised during the final call period. IMplementation is being tracked at <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T163921>. -- daniel Am 13.04.2017 um 20:57 schrieb Daniel Kinzler: > This is a final call for comments on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Final Call for comments: RFC Canonical data URLs for machine readable page content

Huh... if nobody tells me when I write "RDF" instead of "RFC", I'll start to think that nobody reads my mails ;) Sorry about that... Am 13.04.2017 um 20:57 schrieb Daniel Kinzler: > This is a final call for comments on > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T

[Wikitech-l] Final Call for comments: Deprecate using PHP serialization inside MediaWiki

first candidates for conversion: *LocalisationCache *MediaHandler metadata. The php serialization output format of the API is outside of the scope of this RFC, since we never ingest it. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Fr

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Radar, 2017-04-26

/User:Brion_VIBBER/Compacting_the_revision_table_round_2 for context. -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Help needed: check unsafe calls to Title::getTalkPage in all extensions

[] ReaderFeedback [] WatchSubpages [] WikiLove [] WikibaseQualityConstraints [] Wikidata [] XMLContentExtension [] CologneBlue [] Nimbus [] Tempo For a more detailed list, see the phabricator task. -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien

[Wikitech-l] TechCom Radar, 2017-08-02 (was: ArchCom Radar)

vel. TechCom Will resume its regular schedule on August 23rd, the next RFC discussion will probably be on August 30th. -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. __

[Wikitech-l] TechCom Radar, 2017-08-09 and 2017-08-16

://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147137> * Active discussion: load multi-file packages via ResourceLoader <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133462> PS: Goats are the new kittens <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/goatification/> -- Daniel Kinzler Princi

[Wikitech-l] RFC discussion today: how to store long(er) revision comments

table, or whether it should be done in an isolated way, so it is not blocked on other projects. Another point is if and how deduplication should be applied. The discussion will take place on the #wikimedia-office channel on Freenode, at 21:00 UTC (2pm PDT, 23:00 CEST). -- Daniel Kinzler Principal Pl

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