it into 16GB RAM. (Probably less than 8;
but I don't know how it's all going to work itself out in production.)
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 09/18/2013 06:06 PM, Matthew Walker
the org has permission to use the MediaWiki name/logo/domains
Name and Logo sure -- but why domains? This shouldn't be an exclusive
thing; we should not be moving towards having only one shop offering this
service. Maybe the WMF could have some sort of 'partners' program that
handled licensing.
MediaWiki exposes the right set of
interfaces for deep integration with configuration management and cloud
provisioning platforms, and ensuring that these interfaces are intuitive
and well-documented.
Not well documented yet; but I'll put in a shameless plug that I have a
patch [1] that will
I have an open bug in CentralNotice [1] where I have a search function by
name for old content. Naively this happens as a LIKE query on the table's
name column. Though this works, it fails at being case insensitive because
the table, like most(all?) other tables on the WMF cluster, has by default
I updated the CentralNotice banner proxy RfC [1] to reflect what was
discussed last night.
If it all looks good, I've attempted to evaluate some of the pros / cons of
using Node vs Varnish as the banner server -- and I'd like some feedback on
what technology I should use.
[1]
With all my prep work completed ahead of time; I can get a CentralNotice LD
out to both production branches in about 15 minutes (waiting on the Jenkins
merge is the longest bit of that.) I watch both the fatal and exception
logs whilst doing it and then quickly run through the patches to make sure
I can do it; I'm already deploying tomorrow for Centralnotice.
I thought you had deploy rights though?
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
Who would be a good person to lightning deploy the fix
I'm not on Ubuntu 13.10 (still running the LTS of 12.04); but I tried
downloading and installing the cabal manually just to try it out. I'm
getting the following error from installing the cabal in
mediawiki2latex-7.1.tar.gz; any thoughts? (Also for some reason the build
tells me that it's
Hey,
For the new renderer backend for the Collections Extension we've come up
with a tentative architecture that we would like operations buy in on. The
living document is here [1]. It's worth saying explicitly that whatever
setup we use must be able to handle the greater than 150k requests a day
our
configuration.
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hey,
For the new renderer backend for the Collections Extension we've come up
with a tentative architecture that we would like
fai...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 03:41:33PM -0800, Matthew Walker wrote:
* Node.JS itself should be installable via apt package (we'll have to do
a custom package so that we get Node v10)
I haven't looked at your document yet, but a quick note on that: I have
nodejs 0.10
Hey All,
For those who are not aware, the WMF is currently attempting to replace the
backend renderer for the Collection extension (mwlib). This is the renderer
that creates the PDFs for the 'Download to PDF' sidebar link and creates
books (downloadable in multipe formats and printable via
Randy,
Thanks for the concern -- if I understand your email correct the issue is
not that you cannot resolve donate.wikimedia.org; but it's that one of our
subdomains resolves to something that's not a WMF server?
If so; the behavior you're seeing, that links.email.donate.wikimedia.org goes
to
A related feature request I just submitted -- links to review dashboards
from all project pages:
https://code.google.com/p/gerrit/issues/detail?id=2336
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
I'm totally cool with the idea of code review for Gadgets so forth, just
not using Gerrit. We considered it for Scribunto (and heck, I wrote half of
a
proof of concept) but shot it down because the idea totally sucked.
Chad, can you expand on that statement. I've been toying for some time with
Jorsch (Anomie)
bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
I'm totally cool with the idea of code review for Gadgets so forth,
just
not using Gerrit. We considered it for Scribunto (and heck, I wrote
half
of
a
proof
I think I've seen a couple of the times this has happened. It appears to me
that it might be in reaction to a perceived misunderstanding of the topic
on either party. If we assume good faith on both sides; then I think it's
reasonable for the perceived 'trolling' party to gently restate their
It's not a bad thought; but I don't think it'll work for a couple of
reasons:
* It causes people to leave the site
* GItHub for various reasons requires an account (which most likely they
wont have and it doesn't seem correct to require one given our editing
philosophy)
* The editing interface is
Heh; wrong thread to discuss that in Jon -- this one is about
non-developers helping out writing documentation for configuration
variables and what not without having to modify the source file in gerrit.
The OTHER thread, which I forked from, is the one about what we already
allow (users to
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote:
As in any type of control structure. Mustache is explicitly a template
language without control structures. You can technically implement
Owen,
That's really nifty actually -- can you talk a little about how y'all
manage the i18n issues? Do you prerender all the messages outside of the
template? Or do you use Mustache lambda's to do some formatting inside the
template itself?
Additionally, where and how do you draw the line
All,
We've just finished our second sprint on the new PDF renderer. A
significant chunk of renderer development time this cycle was on non latin
script support, as well as puppetization and packaging for deployment. We
have a work in progress pipeline up and running in labs which I encourage
Gerard,
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:
- do you support other scripts used by languages like Malayalam (ml),
Persian (fa), Chinese (zh) Russian (ru) ??
In the final product yes; I'm not entirely sure where we are with ml, and
zh; but
Marco,
Is it also possible to set this up behind a firewall?
Yes; with the caveat that your wiki must be running Parsoid. It is also
theoretically possible to still use Print on Demand services behind a
firewall as we can POST a zip bundle to them -- likely however you'd just
disable that
So is the --title option for the collection title of for the input article
title?
It's for the title of the book generated by the bundler. The title of the
article you wish to render should just follow all the other options. So...
node bin/mw-ocg-bundler -o bundle.zip --prefix he ASCII
With some help from Hashar and Marktraceur I added some new CI build jobs
for some fundraising stuff -- I noticed we had a job that indicates it'll
build sphinx documentation so I figured I might as well add that and see
where I get.
... Which is not very far -- the build fails with
*19:11:58* +
not sure I want
to introduce a setuptools dependency.
Any thoughts about using some sort of documentation makefile?
/me has to go read up on how we automatically build the doxygen stuff.
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Matthew Walker mwal
Gabriel and I have posted about the current work, prototype
implementations, and proposed solution in a new wiki page:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/HTML_templating_library/KnockoutProposal
We hope everyone has a chance to read it and bring their comments /
questions /
Hey all,
I recently had a new repository created; and I wanted to create some jobs
for it.
I dutifully created and had merged:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/115968/
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/115967/
Hashar told me I then needed to follow the instructions on [1] to push the
jobs to
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.orgwrote:
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 04:28:52PM -0800, Matthew Walker wrote:
Hashar told me I then needed to follow the instructions on [1] to push
the
jobs to jenkins. Running the script myself was only pain; it kept
I note that there are security fixes in these release's -- did I miss
Chris' email about these patches or are we moving away from the model where
we send out an email to the list a couple of days before release?
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014
Yep; that's what I was saying above; the REST call to create the job 301
redirects back to integration.wikimedia.org/ when it should redirect to
integration.wikimedia.org/ci.
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Mark Holmquist
Wikitech admin peoples!
I was doing bad things to my phone last night (reflashing it) and I lost
the 2 factor auth metadata for my authentication app. Because of this I can
no longer log in to wikitech.
I wasn't able to find any documentation on wikitech about how to reset it
-- so I need your
Don't have them :p
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
I wasn't able to find any documentation on wikitech about
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Please reset my 2 factor auto preference in the wikitech database.
My GPG key is available from the MIT keyserver [0]. Establishment of
ownership of the Mwalker LDAP account by this email can occur via
gerrit [1], or the edit history of my user page
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Please reset my 2 factor auto preference in the wikitech database.
My GPG key is available from the MIT keyserver [0]. Establishment
Perhaps this is a question that has an answer elsewhere but, irrespective
of if this change should be made to WMF wikis, why are we:
a) Making this a change in core?
and b) Not making the change in core be a SASS variable that can then be
set as a preference somewhere? (I say this because we've
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote:
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Perhaps this is a question that has an answer elsewhere but, irrespective
of if this change should be made to WMF wikis, why are we
tldr; Gabriel Wicke and I completed the first iteration last week of our
intermediate templating language. The runtime is available in both
JavaScript [1] *and* PHP [2]. We're still working on optimizing the PHP
version, but the JS version is already the fastest of anything we've bench
marked
I'm happy to report that after a LONG time fighting with deployment the
test instance is available in beta labs (en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org and
all others) via the WMF PDF option in Special:Collection and on the side
panel.
It is very rough still in terms of reliable rendering (it doesn't like
I should have also noted -- there is something strange going on with the
frontend to Special:Collection. You have to manually refresh to see status
updates...
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.org
This also has knock on impacts elsewhere. BD808 has a patch that uses
PSR-log and Monolog for logging. We're starting to move to a model where we
recognize that we shouldn't write everything and that things in core have
significantly better replacements in the wider PHP community. It doesn't
make
Today, Kaldari wanted to have translate enabled on foundationwiki so that
Special:MyLanguage was available, but that would fall afoul of bug:44871
[1]. This is not a unique request, fundraising also has some use for
MyLanguage features on wikis that don't have (and wont have) translate.
Are there
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 5:49 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Can someone explain why Special:MyLanguage is needed on
wikimediafoundation.org?
I don't know why Kaldari wants it. But Fundraising can use it for our thank
you page. We would like to give a redirect like
The new renderer should already be working in Hebrew and other RTLs.
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote:
Any plans also to improve this module and make it work well also in Hebrew
(and maybe other RTL languages)?
On Fri,
Ambassadors (and developers),
I am tremendously happy to announce that the new PDF rendering service is
live for testing on the cluster. At this time, while we shake out
production bugs, it is only available via Special:Book using the 'e-book
(PDF, ocg latex renderer)'. You can also render a
As an addendum; when reporting bugs; we will need one of the following two
things to debug:
1) The title of page (or collection being rendered)
2) The collection_id parameter from the URL on the status page
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Matthew Walker mwal
Siebrand,
Mobile and Fundraising have been scheming for some time about various ways
to utilize what Varnish offers which may have been what you've heard about.
Mobile is further along the path than Fundraising in terms of utilizing
Edge Side Includes (ESI) -- but their approach as I understand
Are we just appropriating a random bikeshed somewhere in SF for this
project?
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote:
Hey,
What color should the bikeshed be?
I'll forgive you for your ignorance - one really needs to start with
picking the kind of
Is there a reason you can't just add them to $wgExtraNamespaces?
As long as the wikis are known (meta, testwiki, etc), then you can
just apply the namespaces to those wikis.
This is what I'm doing. It just happens in the setup script,
CentralNotice.php. Ideally I would gate the addition of
Well, the only reason I can think of this happening is because something
must have called MWNamespace::getCanonicalNamespaces before your extension
initialized, thus causing the cache it has to be filled without the
extension's namespaces. Maybe try calling
Good call. This is part of the story. Part of what I had been doing in the
wgExtensionFunctions
hook was:
1) $wgCentralBannerDispatcher = {$wgScript}/{$wgContLang-specialPage(
'BannerRandom' )};
-- Eventually makes a call to Language-getNamespaces() which then
caches the localized
We will most likely change the file names back to their original names in
a month or so
Please don't. It'll serve as a visible marker for the future for when we go
back and look at the files and do a WTF.
~Matt Walker
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If we can come up with some sane rewrite rules, I think we could
redirect gitweb urls to gitblit.
+1 -- like Mark I've used gitweb URLs in several places that I wouldn't
like to see breaking (one of them is original source of images moved to
commons from git).
~Walker
All,
The Fundraising and Mobile teams have been scheming about how we can start
to use the capabilities of the Varnish cache in our respective extensions.
Mobile already does use ESI, but this would be extensions to it.
As I know multiple other parties have been thinking along the same lines,
/Requests_for_comment/Partial_page_caching
Ryan Kaldari
On 2/4/13 2:42 PM, Matthew Walker wrote:
All,
The Fundraising and Mobile teams have been scheming about how we can start
to use the capabilities of the Varnish cache in our respective extensions.
Mobile already does use ESI
All,
Do we have an existing method for extensions to
autogenerate documentation (via a commit hook or something) and then to
upload that to a documentation server? (Something akin to what we do with
MediaWiki core.)
We should have this for Doxygen, and make something similar for JSDuck --
the JS
I am liking the new UI features. However -- I notice that I seem to have
lost +2 rights to mediawiki/core. Are we rolling back the policy that all
foundation developers have +2?
~Matt Walker
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:49 PM,
Yep. Logged in as mwal...@wikimedia.org. It's odd because I still have +2
on the fundraising repos. Maybe the ACL computation changed and I'm not in
some group that I should have been in?
~Matt Walker
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.comwrote:
Are you
Greetings all,
Victor is releasing a video tomorrow for valentines day and whilst I was
discussing it with him, the topic of how many users actually watch our
videos came up. Do we currently have a way of collecting play/click stats
for content played by the TimedMediaHandler off of commons?
If
On the presumption that we still don't want to put the *.wm.org on
wikitech; what's preventing us from getting a wikitech.wikimedia.org cert?
I further presume we can go with the 'cheap' option - 128bit, no extended
validation.
/me grumbles about annoying certificate providers and the broken
Chad (or anyone else that might know),
I've a patch [1] that's been hanging out in gerrit for a while, and I was
going to go back and revise it but for some reason I cannot get git review
to download it. It gives a fatal: Couldn't find remote ref
refs/changes/24/44224/10. Manually doing a git
I'm an idiot. I was in a submodule instead of core where that patch
actually was (thanks for that Tim!)
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Chad (or anyone else that might know),
I've
All,
I noticed when going through recent patches to DonationInterface that we
had an instance of someone not in fundraising self commit some code --
similar changes resulting from the same 'bug' were affected across our code
base. Admittedly this was was a minor textual fix - but as per [1]
Asher,
Do we know what our numbers are now? That's probably a pretty good baseline
to start with as a discussion.
p99 banner request latency of 80ms
Fundraising banners? From start of page load; or is this specifically how
fast our API requests run?
On the topic of APIs; we should set similar
People throw around words like graphite, but unless im mistaken us
non staff folks do not have access to whatever that may be.
Graphite refers to the cluster performance logger available at:
http://graphite.wikimedia.org/
Anyone with a labs account can view it -- which as a commiter you do
Don't forget about the potentials of a priority based queue! (That being
said I actually have no idea what goes into our job queues; so can't say if
there's good candidates for priority based queuing.)
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 6:30
You are definitely not the only one who finds these issues annoying. I too
worry about the same.
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:39 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Hi.
I'm concerned that Gerrit actively discourages discussion
I have a message dictionary in the form of
{languageCode = message, ...}, and looking for a way to inject those
messages into the message cache.
My immediate reaction was to suggest that you create wikipages of all the
messages. But I'm guessing this is for Zero and you can't have those
Take a look at the CentralNotice extension. It provides it's own interface
for adding custom translatable messages. There might be some code there
that is useful to you.
Sadly unlikely; CN adds messages by creating WikiPages.
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
Does anyone know what this means:
mwext-CentralNotice-merge : LOST
... or why I'm getting:
Please wait while Jenkins is getting ready to work
Your browser will reload automatically when Jenkins is ready.
from https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising
Same here
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote:
We have a lot of these coming in as of late (which is awesome!), so we're
At the risk of starting another huge bikeshed like [1] I feel like we need
some good guidance on just how in the heck we are required to license
extensions/images/source code files. With the help of Marktraceur we now
have
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding_conventions#Source_File_Headers
Additional pressure to update Special:Version is going to come when we
start using noun project icons -- like the ones that came out of the
Iconathon. The license there is CC-BY but they strongly recommend we put
statements to that effect in our 'About' pages for each image resource we
use.
I'll
We enabled it for about an hour previously (before reverting due to
the centralauth bug), and the change was barely noticeable in ganglia.
Do we have numbers on what this did to the number of active editors during
that time period? Esp. broken down on a per country basis?
I think I want to
But let's not have some weird exception just because someone didn't
understand it[1] and we all copied it and want to keep it for no
rational reason.
I think its probably because Die, List, Array, and Exit are also keywords
but require the ().
It also makes sense when looking at language
In the mobile team we are increasingly finding overlap in things we need
to render in javascript and in PHP
Out of curiosity -- what are you rendering in JS that you wouldn't already
have in the DOM or wouldn't be able to render server side?
We'd love the same for PHP - there's even a bug for
Hey all,
Fundraising uses deploy branches -- and this is a question about how to
manage them via gerrit / git-review. Effectively -- what am I doing wrong
that causes gerrit to reject my changes as exampled below:
Take for example CentralNotice (I created a test branch mwalker_test that
was
Genius!
I swore I tried git push gerrit HEAD:refs/for/??? and it not working -- but
clearly I had done something else boneheaded.
It was indeed the .gitreview file pointing to the wrong branch that was the
cause of all my troubles.
Thanks :)
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising
Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Genius!
I swore I tried git push gerrit HEAD:refs/for/??? and it not working --
but clearly I had done something else boneheaded.
It was indeed the .gitreview file pointing
Could we maybe get use PHPDoc to generate MediaWiki docs, so that we can
compare them side-by-side.
This is an important request because (to play devil's advocate here a
little bit)...
1. Not be tortoise slow
Pretty sure this only matters because we do continuous integration -- we
probably
Technology Team
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Could we maybe get use PHPDoc to generate MediaWiki docs, so that we can
compare them side-by-side.
This is an important request because (to play devil's advocate here a
little bit)...
1
Depends on what you want to do; but ab -- the apache benchmark -- isn't a
bad place to start.
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Jacobo Nájera jac...@metahumano.orgwrote:
I am exploring around Varnish Cache, do you know some tools
As for whether MW should use assertions, I don't remember/wasn't there for
the original discussion, so I can't comment on that, although personally I
don't see how they're that bad an idea.
I wasn't there either; but from my experience assertions are bad because
you are using them to guard
Time to start adding a random amount of extra packets with each request? :)
We would need to be very careful to not cause detectable entropy changes
which is not trivial!
Perhaps we promote the deployment of SPDY/QUIC which interleaves requests?
~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising
Interesting timing. DNSSEC came up on the NANOG list today -- someone sent
out an FYI to a USENIX paper [1] which shows that the law of unintended
consequences is still strong and active. In the case of DNSSEC; there is an
increased chance of a user being unable to resolve a protected domain --
Hey all,
Chris Steipp found a bug in CentralNotice yesterday and I've applied a
modified version of his patch. He has asked me not to commit it to gerrit
until Friday's security release.
I've applied that patch to wmf12 and wmf13.
Please do not git submodule update the CentralNotice extension!
Hey all,
I've been scheming for a while on how to reduce the number of calls up to
the server for CentralNotice. At the same time I want to greatly reduce the
number of objects I have in cache.
To do this I propose to change the architecture to having an intermediate
proxy server with a static
Hello!
I'm guessing I'm seeing the same thing you are; but as MZ indicated a URL
would be very useful. In any case: I just attempted to render to PDF
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