Le 12/12/12 21:57, David Gerard a écrit :
On 12 December 2012 11:44, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:
Could we host h.264 videos and related transcoders in a country that
does not recognize software patents?
Hints:
- I am not a lawyer
- WMF has server in Netherlands, EU.
If
On 14 December 2012 10:26, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:
Le 12/12/12 21:57, David Gerard a écrit :
If anyone owning a chunk of H.264 had a problem with Wikimedia doing
things with H.264 in the US, it could only be bad for them. I would
suggest this aspect isn't really a problem.
On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:35:40 -0800, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12 December 2012 18:38, Michael Dale md...@wikimedia.org wrote:
* No one is proposing turning off webm, an ideological commitment to
support free access with free platforms in royalty free formats, does
not
On 12/13/2012 12:38 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
It's much, MUCH easier for us to flip the H.264 switch... there are
ideological reasons we might not want to, but we're going to have to put
the effort into making those player apps if we want all our data accessible
to everyone.
+1 its non trivial
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I was able to play the WebM file of the locomotive on the front page
of https://commons.wikimedia.org just now on my Nexus 7 using Chrome,
so at
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I can play the current media on the front page of Commons in Chrome on my
Nexus 7, but it won't play in position on either desktop
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serge_Haroche or mobile
On 12/13/2012 04:56 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I was able to play the WebM file of the locomotive on the front page
of
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Michael Dale md...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think this relates to the page not being purged after the transcodes are
updated. If you purge the page, will probably give the nexus a more
playable flavour.
Le 12/12/12 00:15, Erik Moeller a écrit :
Since there are multiple potential paths for changing the policy
(keeping things ideologically pure, allowing conversion on ingestion,
allowing h.264 but only for mobile, allowing h.264 for all devices,
etc.), and since these issues are pretty
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:
Le 12/12/12 00:15, Erik Moeller a écrit :
Since there are multiple potential paths for changing the policy
(keeping things ideologically pure, allowing conversion on ingestion,
allowing h.264 but only for mobile, allowing
FirefoxOS/Boot2Gecko phones presumably also support Ogg Theora
and WebM formats, but they're not really a market share yet and may never
be in the developed world.
Without trying to downplay the importance of ideological purity, keep in
mind that Mozilla, who have largely the same ideology on the
On 12 December 2012 17:26, Luke Welling lwell...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Without trying to downplay the importance of ideological purity, keep in
mind that Mozilla, who have largely the same ideology on the matter have
conceded defeat on the practical side of it after investing significant
As Brion points out, we get much better coverage. I enabled h.264
locally and ran though a set of Android , iOS and desktop browsers I had
available at the time:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TimedMediaHandler/Platform_testing
Pro h.264:
* No one is proposing turning off webm, an
Original thread from March starts here:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/59684
As I noted back then, this is a drastic policy change that needs a lot
wider discussion, including on the wikis, than just wikitech-l.
On 12 December 2012 18:38, Michael Dale
Thanks for the link. I'll try and stay out of it until I've had time to
read the old thread, but I think this is an unfair characterization:
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:35 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
This proposal is not about anything other than enhancing the shiny for
owners of
On 12 December 2012 11:44, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:
Could we host h.264 videos and related transcoders in a country that
does not recognize software patents?
Hints:
- I am not a lawyer
- WMF has server in Netherlands, EU.
If anyone owning a chunk of H.264 had a problem
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:35 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Original thread from March starts here:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/59684
As I noted back then, this is a drastic policy change that needs a lot
wider discussion, including on
On 12/11/2012 03:02 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
However, every other mobile browser I've tested doesn't support Ogg Theora
or WebM formats. Mobile Safari, Chrome, the old stock Android browser,
Opera Mobile, and the IE 10 engine in our Windows 8 tablet app will show
the thumbnail, but won't play
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Matthew Flaschen
mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 12/11/2012 03:02 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
However, every other mobile browser I've tested doesn't support Ogg Theora
or WebM formats. Mobile Safari, Chrome, the old stock Android browser,
Opera Mobile, and the
Since the switch from OggHandler to TimedMediaHandler we are one step
closer to supporting video on mobile browsers.
In fact, there's one it works in now -- Firefox for Android!
We've been able to close out this Firefox evangelism bug about our broken
mobile video:
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Just thought I'd check in on what it'll take to get it going. No immediate
rush, but I'd really love to have videos working on smartphones and
tablets, and not everybody runs Firefox. :)
As a recap, this is about
On 11 December 2012 23:15, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Since there are multiple potential paths for changing the policy
(keeping things ideologically pure, allowing conversion on ingestion,
allowing h.264 but only for mobile, allowing h.264 for all devices,
etc.), and since these
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