Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-07-01 Thread Peter Rosin
On 2013-06-29 18:33, Alan W. Irwin wrote: Those have been mentioned before here, and I have looked at them. Cygwin is a very large collection of software so the number of bugs that are reported does not seem excessive to me, and for my personal needs (building and testing software on the

Re: [wine-devel] Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-07-01 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-07-01 06:13+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: [...]In terms of relative importance, consider that mingw (both native and cross) GNU toolchain works well, the toolchain part of cygwin is hardly a priority. Once again you are implying the MinGW GNU toolchain is better than the Cygwin GNU

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-07-01 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-07-01 18:13+0200 Peter Rosin wrote: On 2013-06-29 18:33, Alan W. Irwin wrote: Those have been mentioned before here, and I have looked at them. Cygwin is a very large collection of software so the number of bugs that are reported does not seem excessive to me, and for my personal needs

Re: [wine-devel] Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-07-01 Thread Hin-Tak Leung
--- On Mon, 1/7/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: ... I hope your negative attitude toward the Cygwin toolchain is not typical of such developers.  After all, even though the Windows GNU toolchain code bases have diverged between the two groups of developers, there is still

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-07-01 Thread David Laight
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 06:13:26PM +0200, Peter Rosin wrote: I would like to point out that it seems that the current bug does not appear to be *in* setup.exe, but rather occurs when setup.exe runs a bash post-install script, where the bash.exe that interprets the script depends on

Re: [wine-devel] Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-07-01 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-07-01 19:58+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Mon, 1/7/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: ... I hope your negative attitude toward the Cygwin toolchain is not typical of such developers.  After all, even though the Windows GNU toolchain code bases have diverged between

Re: [wine-devel] Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-07-01 Thread Austin English
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: On 2013-07-01 19:58+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Mon, 1/7/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: ... I hope your negative attitude toward the Cygwin toolchain is not typical of such developers.

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-30 Thread André Hentschel
On 29.06.2013 23:34, Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Sat, 29/6/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: ... Also, running cygwin on wine, compared to other windows software which has no unix/linux equivalents, is hardly a priority. That is obviously personally true for you. And for

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-30 Thread Hin-Tak Leung
--- On Sun, 30/6/13, André Hentschel n...@dawncrow.de wrote: On 29.06.2013 23:34, Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Sat, 29/6/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: ... Also, running cygwin on wine, compared to other windows software which has no unix/linux equivalents, is

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-29 Thread Hin-Tak Leung
--- On Sat, 29/6/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: ... The Mingw GNU toolchain works wells under wine. The cygwin GNU toolchain don't, the last time I checked. That may be true, but the best way to make that point about the Cygwin GNU toolchain is with official Cygwin bug

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-29 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-06-29 11:57+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Sat, 29/6/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: ... The Mingw GNU toolchain works wells under wine. The cygwin GNU toolchain don't, the last time I checked. That may be true, but the best way to make that point about the

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-29 Thread Hin-Tak Leung
--- On Sat, 29/6/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: ... Also, running cygwin on wine, compared to other windows software which has no unix/linux equivalents, is hardly a priority. That is obviously personally true for you.  And for my personal needs Cygwin on Wine is a

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-28 Thread Hin-Tak Leung
--- On Thu, 27/6/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: On 2013-06-26 18:14-0700 Alan W. Irwin wrote: Note in retrospect I realized that this period leading up to the release of Wine-1.6.0 has been a lousy time to ask wine developers with Cygwin expertise to take on the

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-28 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-06-28 22:07+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Thu, 27/6/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: [...]I asked Arjen Markus, a PLplot colleague of mine with Cygwin contacts, to try and get the debugging process started with the Cygwin developers.  The response

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-28 Thread Hin-Tak Leung
--- On Fri, 28/6/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: ... But I _know_ the MSYS version of cat works fine on recent Wine just like the rest of the GNU toolchain used for building software so if the MSYS and Cygwin GNU toolchain code bases have not diverged too much it should

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-28 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-06-28 23:13+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Fri, 28/6/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: ... But I _know_ the MSYS version of cat works fine on recent Wine just like the rest of the GNU toolchain used for building software so if the MSYS and Cygwin GNU toolchain code

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-27 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-06-26 18:14-0700 Alan W. Irwin wrote: Note in retrospect I realized that this period leading up to the release of Wine-1.6.0 has been a lousy time to ask wine developers with Cygwin expertise to take on the additional distraction of getting the debugging process for bug 24018 started