Re: Time-based releases idea

2008-05-05 Thread Kai Blin
On Monday 05 May 2008 05:13:16 Dan Kegel wrote: I just wrote up an idea related to release management for post-1.0 wine releases. It's online at http://wiki.winehq.org/TimeBasedReleases Essentially, the idea is to release in March and September, in time for the April and October releases

Re: Time-based releases idea

2008-05-05 Thread Scott Ritchie
Dan Kegel wrote: I just wrote up an idea related to release management for post-1.0 wine releases. It's online at http://wiki.winehq.org/TimeBasedReleases Essentially, the idea is to release in March and September, in time for the April and October releases of Ubuntu. You have my 120%

Re: Time-based releases idea

2008-05-05 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 04:12:52AM -0700, Scott Ritchie wrote: Dan Kegel wrote: I just wrote up an idea related to release management for post-1.0 wine releases. It's online at http://wiki.winehq.org/TimeBasedReleases Essentially, the idea is to release in March and September, in

Re: Time-based releases idea

2008-05-05 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Scott Ritchie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The alternative, truthfully, is choosing between shipping Ubuntu with a 2+months out of date Wine version or an untested one. Either option sucks. I don't see how we can possibly have a tested release ready every time some distro decides to ship. On the

Re: Time-based releases idea

2008-05-05 Thread Dan Kegel
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:12 AM, Alexandre Julliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see how we can possibly have a tested release ready every time some distro decides to ship. That wasn't the proposal. The proposal was to ship every 6 months, and to pick a release date that made some sense

Re: Time-based releases idea

2008-05-05 Thread Scott Ritchie
Alexandre Julliard wrote: Scott Ritchie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The alternative, truthfully, is choosing between shipping Ubuntu with a 2+months out of date Wine version or an untested one. Either option sucks. I don't see how we can possibly have a tested release ready every time some

Re: Time-based releases idea

2008-05-05 Thread Dan Kegel
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Alexandre Julliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's the distro that changed the mmap config, not the kernel. I'm not sure I understand their reasoning, apparently this was an attempt to work around the vulnerability without fixing the kernel. Oh, right. I think

Re: Time-based releases idea

2008-05-05 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Dan Kegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That wasn't the distro; that was an upstream kernel vulnerability fix announced in February, http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Patching_CVE-2008-0600_Local_Root_Exploit It's the distro that changed the mmap config, not the kernel. I'm not sure I understand their

Re: Time-based releases idea

2008-05-05 Thread Reece Dunn
2008/5/5 Kai Blin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 05 May 2008 05:13:16 Dan Kegel wrote: I just wrote up an idea related to release management for post-1.0 wine releases. It's online at http://wiki.winehq.org/TimeBasedReleases Essentially, the idea is to release in March and September,

Re: Time-based releases idea

2008-05-05 Thread Zachary Goldberg
I think that a missing factor in making this decision is the shape of an automatic test suite. Its been mentioned a dozen times and has the potential to tip the scales in favor of the time-based releases (making QA easier - shorter freezes). In the event that we are able to maintain QA (by test

Re: Time-based releases idea

2008-05-05 Thread Maarten Lankhorst
Hello Zachary, 2008/5/5 Zachary Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think that a missing factor in making this decision is the shape of an automatic test suite. Its been mentioned a dozen times and has the potential to tip the scales in favor of the time-based releases (making QA easier -

Time-based releases idea

2008-05-04 Thread Dan Kegel
I just wrote up an idea related to release management for post-1.0 wine releases. It's online at http://wiki.winehq.org/TimeBasedReleases Essentially, the idea is to release in March and September, in time for the April and October releases of Ubuntu. For instance, following this strategy, we

Re: Time-based releases idea

2008-05-04 Thread Austin English
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Dan Kegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wrote up an idea related to release management for post-1.0 wine releases. It's online at http://wiki.winehq.org/TimeBasedReleases Essentially, the idea is to release in March and September, in time for the April

Re: Time-based releases idea

2008-05-04 Thread Steven Edwards
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Dan Kegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I look forward to discussing this idea... perhaps we shouldn't bother to until after 1.0 is released, but I wanted to get it out early so the discussion can begin in time for us to move on it if we want to. I think having