Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ? (forw)

2005-12-21 Thread Joerg Mayer
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Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ? (forw)

2005-12-21 Thread Aric Cyr
Joerg Mayer jmayer at loplof.de writes: On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 07:48:09AM +, Aric Cyr wrote: Maybe I'll fire off an email to Turbolinux to see what they have to say, although technically unless I purchase or receive their product I am not directly entitled to the GPL/LGPL code from

Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ?

2005-12-21 Thread Andreas Mohr
Hi, On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 07:48:09AM +, Aric Cyr wrote: Seeing that SpecOps Labs history of ignoring Wine developers extends for more than a year, then yes I can agree with that. Yup, there has been more silence than anything else. According to their Partners' page, IBM and Turbolinux

Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ?

2005-12-21 Thread Jeremy White
It is not a requirement that patches be submitted - only that source code be made available. Patches are normally submitted because it is more convenient for the developer if the change is in the canonical version. If the developer does not see the value of having their patch in the

has the LGPL licence fell through ?

2005-12-20 Thread Tom Wickline
Yes I have read the licence just re read it for that matter... So why no patches from SpecOps? should Wine move to GPL to keep from being robbed of its code? If your wondering why I'm ranting : http://news.inq7.net/infotech/index.php?index=1story_id=60585 Tom

Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ?

2005-12-20 Thread Tom Wickline
On 12/20/05, Tom Wickline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your wondering why I'm ranting : http://news.inq7.net/infotech/index.php?index=1story_id=60585 http://www.specopslabs.com/projdav-framework.htm Okay, can someone from SpecOps please send me a nice .bz2 of there changes? Tom

Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ?

2005-12-20 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 05:24:40PM -0500, Tom Wickline wrote: Yes I have read the licence just re read it for that matter... So why no patches from SpecOps? should Wine move to GPL to keep from being robbed of its code? I would really like to see more than speculation on this product. LGPL

Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ?

2005-12-20 Thread Troy Rollo
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 09:24, Tom Wickline wrote: Yes I have read the licence just re read it for that matter... So why no patches from SpecOps? It is not a requirement that patches be submitted - only that source code be made available. Patches are normally submitted because it is more

Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ?

2005-12-20 Thread Willie Sippel
Am Dienstag, 20. Dezember 2005 23:38 schrieb Marcus Meissner: On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 05:24:40PM -0500, Tom Wickline wrote: Yes I have read the licence just re read it for that matter... So why no patches from SpecOps? should Wine move to GPL to keep from being robbed of its code? I would

Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ?

2005-12-20 Thread Troy Rollo
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 10:08, Jeremy White wrote: In fact, the only person that can demand anything wrt the LGPL is someone that is running their software. So if someone has bought a copy of TurboLinux 11 in Japan, they have the right to demand a copy of the source code to the Wine bits in

Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ?

2005-12-20 Thread Tom Spear
Troy Rollo wrote: On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 10:08, Jeremy White wrote: In fact, the only person that can demand anything wrt the LGPL is someone that is running their software. So if someone has bought a copy of TurboLinux 11 in Japan, they have the right to demand a copy of the source code to the

Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ?

2005-12-20 Thread Tom Wickline
There is a review here : http://digital.hmx.net/02contents/pc/linux/fuji.shtml You might need : http://babelfish.altavista.com/ to translate it. I'll post parts of there review here Ricoh TrueType font (JIS third fourth level support) Japanese input software ATOK for Linux Windows

Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ?

2005-12-20 Thread Aric Cyr
Troy Rollo wine at troy.rollo.name writes: On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 09:24, Tom Wickline wrote: Yes I have read the licence just re read it for that matter... So why no patches from SpecOps? It is not a requirement that patches be submitted - only that source code be made available. Patches

Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ?

2005-12-20 Thread Tom Wickline
On 12/20/05, Aric Cyr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounds like there is hardly an issue here (provided they do as they say)... move along, nothing to see here. :) Your a trusting fellow I see. You should look at this swamp land I have for sale, its guaranteed to perc. :D Tom - Aric

Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ?

2005-12-20 Thread Aric Cyr
Tom Wickline twickline at gmail.com writes: On 12/20/05, Aric Cyr Aric.Cyr at gmail.com wrote: It sounds like there is hardly an issue here (provided they do as they say)... move along, nothing to see here. :) Your a trusting fellow I see. You should look at this swamp land I

Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ?

2005-12-20 Thread Tim Schmidt
Trusting perhaps, but not an over-reationist for sure. Has anyone approached SpecObs Labs and asked for the code? Have they said no? This is all just speculation and hardly worthy of a thread until such comes to pass. For a company to (fairly) prominantely state on their product web page

Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ?

2005-12-20 Thread Brian Vincent
Wine is LGPL as I understand it. Codeweavers takes advantage of that, as do other companies I imagine (Transgaming?). What's one more company basing a product on Wine code, provided they follow the license they agreed to when they received the code? Give them a chance is all I am

Re: has the LGPL licence fell through ?

2005-12-20 Thread Aric Cyr
Tim Schmidt timschmidt at gmail.com writes: The SpecOps folks have been contacted before, search the archives. As for Transgaming, they use a pre-LGPL fork of the Wine code, parts of which they've released under the Aladin Public License, parts under a BSD-like license, parts have never been