Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-06 Thread Vincent Povirk
It is not so much the technical details that are the problem. It is the LEGAL problems and potential legal problems that are at the root of my complaint. Telling me that I have the technical details wrong does not help.  I have very carefully tried to move the discussion away from secondary

Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-06 Thread Matijn Woudt
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Vincent Povirk madewokh...@gmail.com wrote: It is not so much the technical details that are the problem. It is the LEGAL problems and potential legal problems that are at the root of my complaint. Telling me that I have the technical details wrong does not

Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-05 Thread Max TenEyck Woodbury
On 06/05/2012 01:50 AM, Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Mon, 4/6/12, Max TenEyck Woodburym...@mtew.isa-geek.net wrote: On 06/04/2012 03:05 AM, Frédéric Delanoy wrote: On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Dan Kegeld...@kegel.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Frédéric Delanoy

Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-05 Thread Francois Gouget
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012, Max TenEyck Woodbury wrote: [...] A native MSWindows application that wants .net support would either connect to the installed dll that provides the required services or install such a dll. It would know nothing about 'mono'. It is only non-MSWindows platform programs

Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-05 Thread Michael Stefaniuc
On 06/05/2012 08:53 AM, Max TenEyck Woodbury wrote: The issue is access from linux native code to the .net framework. That should require a specific decision on the part of the system administrator to make it available. It is that package that I believe is called 'mono'. I have taken steps

Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-05 Thread Hin-Tak Leung
--- On Mon, 4/6/12, Max TenEyck Woodbury m...@mtew.isa-geek.net wrote: On 06/04/2012 03:05 AM, Frédéric Delanoy wrote: On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Dan Kegeld...@kegel.com  wrote: On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Frédéric Delanoy frederic.dela...@gmail.com  wrote: On Sun, Jun 3,

Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-05 Thread Hin-Tak Leung
--- On Tue, 5/6/12, Max TenEyck Woodbury m...@mtew.isa-geek.net wrote: The issue is access from linux native code to the .net framework.  snipped Please stop your anti-mono ranting. You have no idea what you are talking about. wine-mono is an modified version of a *win32* build of mono.

Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-05 Thread Max TenEyck Woodbury
On 06/05/2012 03:00 AM, Francois Gouget wrote: On Mon, 4 Jun 2012, Max TenEyck Woodbury wrote: [...] A native MSWindows application that wants .net support would either connect to the installed dll that provides the required services or install such a dll. It would know nothing about 'mono'.

Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-05 Thread Vincent Povirk
If it is NOT a linux native interface, it is NOT an analog of 'mono'. Mono is available on many platforms, including Windows. What we have is a fork/package of Mono that is built for Windows and only used by Wine's internals. If Mono is contaminated then our package is just as much so. On

Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-05 Thread Max TenEyck Woodbury
On 06/05/2012 01:16 PM, James Eder wrote: You obviously have absolutely no idea what the wine-mono package is for. You should read up and apologize. NO APOLOGY! You are missing the point. You are missing the point. You're argument lacks weight because you clearly have no idea what

Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-04 Thread Frédéric Delanoy
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Dan Kegel daniel.r.ke...@gmail.com wrote: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh now also installs mono. It should be probably be called wine-install-addons.sh now, maybe I'll rename it that soon.  If you have a better idea for the

Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-04 Thread Frédéric Delanoy
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Frédéric Delanoy frederic.dela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Dan Kegel daniel.r.ke...@gmail.com wrote: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh now

Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-04 Thread Dan Kegel
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Frédéric Delanoy frederic.dela...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't it be better (and more acceptable for people disliking/wanting to avoid mono) to - keep install-gecko.sh as is - create install-mono.sh - create wine-install-addons.sh calling the former ? The

Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-04 Thread Rosanne DiMesio
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:24:26 -0700 Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: The point of this script is to make life easier for me and for the average user.  It's not to make life easier for people who don't like mono, mostly because I doubt there are many of them. There are many average users

Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-04 Thread Vincent Povirk
Actually, now that I'm looking at the script a little more carefully, it doesn't actually install anything, just puts the installers in a place where Wine can find them. So if you already have native .NET installed, you won't get wine-mono in your prefix. If you're planning to install it, I'd

Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-04 Thread Max TenEyck Woodbury
On 06/04/2012 03:05 AM, Frédéric Delanoy wrote: On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Dan Kegeld...@kegel.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Frédéric Delanoy frederic.dela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Dan Kegeldaniel.r.ke...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: http://winetricks.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/install-gecko.sh also installs mono

2012-06-04 Thread Vincent Povirk
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Max TenEyck Woodbury m...@mtew.isa-geek.net wrote: mono hate Let's not hijack Dan's thread for this.