Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-24 Thread L. Rahyen
On Monday October 8 2007 23:01, TheBlunderbuss wrote: L. Rahyen wrote: Please test with your uniprocessor and get back to us on it. Not all of us can have the top-of-the-line system. To all: stay away from Celerons! 128KB L2 isn't enough! Sorry for a big delay in reply. In practice

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-24 Thread TheBlunderbuss
L. Rahyen wrote: Now 2.6.23 is stable so everyone can easily try and test it. All major distribution should provide precompiled 2.6.23 kernels in near future. Thanks for your test!

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-14 Thread Stéphan Kochen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 King InuYasha schreef: I would like to suggest that eventually Wine would support PulseAudio as a sound output natively. I am already aware of Wine supporting ESD, which PulseAudio can use, but supporting PulseAudio natively I think would be much

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-11 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On Thursday 11 October 2007 04:02:22 Jan Zerebecki wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 06:22:19PM -0500, King InuYasha wrote: That way, there isn't a conflict between audio streams to send to audio output. Any mixing resolves this conflict, the only thing that does not support this is bare oss. I

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-11 Thread Christoph Frick
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 11:44:03AM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote: On Thursday 11 October 2007 04:02:22 Jan Zerebecki wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 06:22:19PM -0500, King InuYasha wrote: That way, there isn't a conflict between audio streams to send to audio output. Any mixing resolves

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-10 Thread Maarten Lankhorst
Hello Dave, Dave Phillips schreef: I'm not a Wine devel, but I am closely allied with the Linux audio community (yes, there is such a thing) and I use Wine frequently for running Windows ASIO-based music and sound apps. I use Robert Reif's wineasio driver, which basically does what Maarten

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-10 Thread King InuYasha
While PulseAudio can work through ALSA, it makes you lose the finer grains of control over audio when it is sent through ALSA to PulseAudio. It is also redundant in most cases, since PulseAudio generally will be connected to localhost to ALSA on localhost, so it is not very smart to rely on

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-10 Thread Jan Zerebecki
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 06:22:19PM -0500, King InuYasha wrote: While PulseAudio can work through ALSA, it makes you lose the finer grains of control over audio when it is sent through ALSA to PulseAudio. Then it seems that is a limitation of the alsa plugin pulseaudio provides. Fixing that

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-09 Thread Jan Zerebecki
I agree that wineoss needs to remain. I don't remember anymore if there was still some reason for keeping wineesd. Both jack and pulseaudio can provide alsa support for applications. So in principle there is no reason for direct support in wine for either of them. We might be able to get trough

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-08 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On 10/7/07, Michael Stefaniuc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! King InuYasha wrote: I would like to suggest that eventually Wine would support PulseAudio as a sound output natively. I am already aware of Wine supporting ESD, which PulseAudio can use, but supporting PulseAudio natively I

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-08 Thread Maarten Lankhorst
Damjan Jovanovic schreef: Pulseaudio isn't yet another sound server, it's a full-blown replacement for all other sound servers. It mixes sound better than alsa's dmix, it's a drop-in replacement for ESD, and it works even for OSS applications using oss2pulse. Some of its interesting features

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-08 Thread L. Rahyen
On Monday October 8 2007 10:48, Maarten Lankhorst wrote: Damjan Jovanovic schreef: Pulseaudio isn't yet another sound server, it's a full-blown replacement for all other sound servers. It mixes sound better than alsa's dmix, it's a drop-in replacement for ESD, and it works even for OSS

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-08 Thread Adam Petaccia
On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 23:07 +0200, Michael Stefaniuc wrote: Hello! King InuYasha wrote: I would like to suggest that eventually Wine would support PulseAudio as a sound output natively. I am already aware of Wine supporting ESD, which PulseAudio can use, but supporting PulseAudio

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-08 Thread Dave Phillips
Maarten Lankhorst wrote: Damjan Jovanovic schreef: Pulseaudio isn't yet another sound server, it's a full-blown replacement for all other sound servers. It mixes sound better than alsa's dmix, it's a drop-in replacement for ESD, and it works even for OSS applications using oss2pulse. Some of

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-08 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On Monday 08 October 2007 14:43:30 Dave Phillips wrote: Well, first I'd suggest simply supporting ALSA as thoroughly as necessary or possible. It is the default kernel sound system, Wine may as well incorporate it as well as it can. Supporting the deprecated OSS API might be a good idea too,

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-08 Thread King InuYasha
On 10/8/07, King InuYasha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wine must not let go of the OSS support since OSS was recently made GPL'd and CDDL'd for use in FOSS kernels by its maker (4Front) and OSS is the POSIX audio system of choice for nearly every time except Linux. Linux does not use OSS anymore

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-08 Thread TheBlunderbuss
L. Rahyen wrote: You probably should try new linux kernel. There is high chances that it will fix these problems for you. Personally I use 2.6.23-rc8. You find that with new kernel performance is very good even under heavy load ...But when I have purchased 3 GHz quad-core system with

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-08 Thread King InuYasha
Wine must not let go of the OSS support since OSS was recently made GPL'd and CDDL'd for use in FOSS kernels by its maker (4Front) and OSS is the POSIX audio system of choice for nearly every time except Linux. Linux does not use OSS anymore and uses ALSA. Since Linux is the primary target of

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-08 Thread L. Rahyen
On Monday October 8 2007 23:01, TheBlunderbuss wrote: L. Rahyen wrote: I didn't tested yet my one-core system with new 2.6.23 kernel so I'm not sure how well it will behave with uniprocessor system but I guess it should work as expected. Please test with your uniprocessor and get

PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-07 Thread King InuYasha
I would like to suggest that eventually Wine would support PulseAudio as a sound output natively. I am already aware of Wine supporting ESD, which PulseAudio can use, but supporting PulseAudio natively I think would be much better.

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-07 Thread Roderick Colenbrander
I would like to suggest that eventually Wine would support PulseAudio as a sound output natively. I am already aware of Wine supporting ESD, which PulseAudio can use, but supporting PulseAudio natively I think would be much better. Audio in wine is still a problematic area. The situation

Re: PulseAudio as a sound output?

2007-10-07 Thread Michael Stefaniuc
Hello! King InuYasha wrote: I would like to suggest that eventually Wine would support PulseAudio as a sound output natively. I am already aware of Wine supporting ESD, which PulseAudio can use, but supporting PulseAudio natively I think would be much better. There are already a couple too