Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill

2009-09-04 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Sep 3, 2009, at 12:49 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Actually Internet wasn't really made for anything. If you want to tie it to any one thing, commercial purposes was the primary focus. That isn't really an accurate description. The Internet was originally meant for academic and military

Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill

2009-09-04 Thread Chuck Bartosch
We've been on this slippery slope for almost a decade too. It's a worrisome trend but it's been with us for a while now. I would hope the trend would bother anyone who really thinks about it, regardless of where they sit politically. Now, how come we don't use the chat list (WISPA Chatter

Re: [WISPA] Ruckus, Cisco Beamforming article

2009-09-04 Thread Jack Unger
Good stuff Mike. Thanks. jack Mike Hammett wrote: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/beamforming-wifi-ruckus,2390.html - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill

2009-09-04 Thread Frank
The telegraph was the Victorian Internet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Internet Frank -Original Message- From: Robert West Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:07 AM Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the telegraph Strange but true.

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-04 Thread eje
Scada, railroad, cordless phones other wisps 30-50+ miles away. Just to mention a few sources we seen. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:55:02 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-04 Thread eje
Correct. If the wavelength was different then it wouldn't be 900MHz. You can break physics. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:42:17 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz

[WISPA] ATT 3G running out of bandwidth

2009-09-04 Thread Chuck Profito
ATT is starting to complain and possibly loose customers because of the I Phone success: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/03/technology/companies/03att.html?_r=1hpw WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill

2009-09-04 Thread RickG
I guess one might say that was the original concept. I suppose smoke signals would qualify as well. Or maybe a bottle with a note cast into the sea? LOL! On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Frankinetli...@gmail.com wrote: The telegraph was the Victorian Internet.

Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill

2009-09-04 Thread RickG
Amen! I think Orwell's 1984 would be a good read as well as Atlas Shrugged! On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:43 AM, jree...@18-30chat.netjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: The real shame here is that is has nothing to do with cyber-security. There is no inbound service attack that is not better dealt with

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-04 Thread RickG
Which was my point :) On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:57 AM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote: Correct. If the wavelength was different then it wouldn't be 900MHz. You can break physics. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 3

Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill

2009-09-04 Thread RickG
It too remember that. -RickG On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartoschch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: On Sep 3, 2009, at 12:49 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Actually Internet wasn't really made for anything.  If you want to tie it to any one thing, commercial purposes was the primary focus.

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG

2009-09-04 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
I run the next to latest full release, which is like build 2880 or 1.3.23b of version 3. I still have a few v2 cpe left not upgraded, somewhere in the half dozen range, probably. I have a few running the very latest release, because of it's higher throughput, but it has bugs and have

[WISPA] Broadband Stimulus Could Save Lives and Cash

2009-09-04 Thread Lists
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Re: [WISPA] Waverider CCU (old model)

2009-09-04 Thread Jack Unger
Try these guys http://www.surpluswirelessgear.com/. jack John Scrivner wrote: I am searching for spare gear. Lightning just took another old Waverider CCU. If any of you have some collecting dust I am buying. Hit me offlist with subject line of Waverider CCU. Thanks guys, Scriv

[WISPA] Waverider CCU (old model)

2009-09-04 Thread John Scrivner
I am searching for spare gear. Lightning just took another old Waverider CCU. If any of you have some collecting dust I am buying. Hit me offlist with subject line of Waverider CCU. Thanks guys, Scriv WISPA Wants

Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill

2009-09-04 Thread Robert West
That brings me back to a thought I had a few months back. Text messaging. It's been proven that a person using Morse code to enter a text message will beat someone using normal text entry. But with that, isn’t text messaging pretty much the same type of thing as sending in Morse? We went from

Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill

2009-09-04 Thread jp
Well, keying in letters on the dtmf keypad of a phone means it's 1-4 presses per digit. Morse code is 1-4 presses per letter or 5 for numbers. Input encoding: Morse code is 1-2 press options (depending on the input device), a phone is 10-12 keys to use. So I'd say they are comparable for text

[WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism

2009-09-04 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
fyi watch those towers! And don't forget to take the keys from any equipment left on site. marlon - Original Message - From: scottw...@verizon.net To: towert...@contesting.com Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism This link details recent

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism

2009-09-04 Thread jp
http://www.elfpressoffice.org/ Someone's gotta be pretty shallow in the gene pool (or a complete crack head) to destroy a big tower with your person AT THE BASE OF THE TOWER! Where else (on the ground) would be a worse place to be with a tower coming down? I'd want to be out of the fall

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG

2009-09-04 Thread Mark Nash
Can you verify on your AP that those features are actually functioning? Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism

2009-09-04 Thread Tom Sharples
And the site owners didn't install alarms and video surveillance equipment because... Tom S. - Original Message - From: jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism

2009-09-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Do you do those things? On 9/4/09, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: And the site owners didn't install alarms and video surveillance equipment because... Tom S. - Original Message - From: jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill

2009-09-04 Thread Mike Hammett
Apparently someone doesn't use T9 word mode or have a smart phone. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:39 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism

2009-09-04 Thread Jayson Baker
Absolutely. PTZ on the top, 2 fixed on the bottom pointing at parking area/fence gate. Motion sensor outdoors inside the fence area. Contact sensor on the door. Always a good idea. On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Do you do those things? On

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Stimulus Could Save Lives and Cash

2009-09-04 Thread RickG
Reminds me of when I worked at McDonald Douglas. The engineers there told me they could save more lives by putting in more safety equipment into the jets. The problem was airline travel would cost 1000 times more. Ever wonder why there are no seat belts on school buses? Money. The point is, we can

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism

2009-09-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Wow too rich for my blood. That has to cost a few grand right there! On 9/4/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Absolutely. PTZ on the top, 2 fixed on the bottom pointing at parking area/fence gate. Motion sensor outdoors inside the fence area. Contact sensor on the door.

Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill

2009-09-04 Thread Josh Luthman
That t9 stuff sucks like hell IMO. On 9/4/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Apparently someone doesn't use T9 word mode or have a smart phone. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com --

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism

2009-09-04 Thread Tom Sharples
Yes, it's what I do for a living :-) Good quality megapixel cams wirelessly backhauled cost $$, but even the most elaborate system would have been far less than the $25K reward the owners are now offering. An ounce of prevention ... etc...etc. Tom S. Qorvus Systems, Inc. - Original

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Stimulus Could Save Lives and Cash

2009-09-04 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Sep 4, 2009, at 10:46 PM, RickG wrote: Reminds me of when I worked at McDonald Douglas. The engineers there told me they could save more lives by putting in more safety equipment into the jets. The problem was airline travel would cost 1000 times more. Ever wonder why there are no seat

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism

2009-09-04 Thread Jayson Baker
The fixed cameras were about $30/ea. The composite to IP box was about $50. The alarm system was about $200 when we put it in 5 years ago. Yeah, the PTZ was about $2000 for a good one, great zoom, enclosure w/ fan and heat. But the news uses it as a weathercam, so we got them to foot the bill -