Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-12 Thread TimM
Well add my name to this request as well to having this work be put to the top of the list Since Purely WiX patching requires generation of the .wixpdb files I would like to know how these work if the install supports multiple languages? We had generation of the .wixpdb files turned off as at

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-11 Thread Blair Murri
: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 00:40:53 + Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Blair, this sounds really promising! Are there any examples of this that you can share? Stephen Tunney Nuance Communications, Inc. Solutions Architect, Imaging Division Waterloo, Ontario, Canada

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-09 Thread Blair Murri
. That would solve the issue for your build, and you won't have to enter the quagmire of IgnoreRange. From: stephen.tun...@nuance.com To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 18:26:11 + Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef I love the idea

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-09 Thread Tunney, Stephen
) -Original Message- From: Blair Murri [mailto:os...@live.com] Sent: November-09-13 2:09 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef For whole file patching, you need to write a BinderFileManager and put it into an extension

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread TimM
Okay I have done a bit more testing with Pure Wix and Melt and here is what I have found with my testing. Create Product.wxs with a bunch of components in root and I also create a fragment with is bunch more components. I then built this msi and associated .wixpdb file. I then updated some of

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread Rob Mensching
PatchFamilies. Then the filtering pulls in everything that changed... like PCP does (IIRC). -Original Message- From: TimM [mailto:timmay...@smarttech.com] Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 9:37 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread Tunney, Stephen
12:37 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Okay I have done a bit more testing with Pure Wix and Melt and here is what I have found with my testing. Create Product.wxs with a bunch of components in root and I also create a fragment

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread Tunney, Stephen
] Sent: November-08-13 12:49 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef I'm always a bit behind on patching stuff but it sounds like your adding PatchFamilies and that kicks in filtering. Filtering is designed to provide very fine

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread Tunney, Stephen
-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef I guess I that is what I get from following documentation examples like what is in the current Wix Toolset documentation: http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/patching/wix_patching.html Okay Rob I'll relook at my samples, make the modifications

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread TimM
Hey Stephen, Here is the contents for my sample build.bat file: @echo call melt.exe to fix the Version 1.0 wixpdb file so that we do not have to worry about original source files/folders. Melt.exe Ver1.0\product.msi -out Ver1.0Corrected\product.wixpdb -pdb Ver1.0\product.wixpdb -x

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread TimM
Okay Rob, taking out the PatchFamily does allow the patch to all updated files to be correctly patched and therefore does reduce the complexity of this method... Now if we look at Stephen's issue I can see this being a major concern as we also do the same thing where files are updated with

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread John Cooper
.(r) Shawnee Mission, KS 66227 Office: 913-341-3434 x791011 jocoo...@jackhenry.com www.jackhenry.com -Original Message- From: TimM [mailto:timmay...@smarttech.com] Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 1:16 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread Tunney, Stephen
toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef The latter. Binary diffs are non-trivial. For example of this, see how TFS handles binary check-ins. Like you, my builds version every rebuilt assembly every build. So, we're guaranteed at least several dozen new assemblies

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread TimM
Well I just did a test of Patch Creation using two different builds of our next release of our software, which the .msi files are 118 MB in size, and if I set the WholeFilesOnly=yes the patch .msp size is 20MB. Now if I set the WholeFilesOnly=no then the size of the .msp is only 3.8 MB. Way

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread Rob Mensching
Is this: pyro -delta ? -Original Message- From: TimM [mailto:timmay...@smarttech.com] Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 1:04 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Well I just did a test of Patch Creation using two different

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread TimM
?type=nodenode=7590487i=0] Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 1:04 PM To: [hidden email]/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=7590487i=1 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Well I just did a test of Patch Creation using two different builds of our next release of our software

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread John Cooper
jocoo...@jackhenry.com www.jackhenry.com -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 3:30 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Is this: pyro -delta

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread Rob Mensching
: John Cooper [mailto:jocoo...@jackhenry.com] Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 1:59 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Learn something new every day. Gave -delta a spin and it seems good. I'll have to give it a spin without

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread John Cooper
about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Learn something new every day. Gave -delta a spin and it seems good. I'll have to give it a spin without PatchFamily next and compare results. -- John Merryweather Cooper Build Install Engineer -- ESA Jack Henry

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread TimM
-Original Message- From: John Cooper Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 3:59 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Learn something new every day. Gave -delta a spin and it seems good. I'll have to give it a spin without PatchFamily

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-07 Thread TimM
On 28-Oct-13 22:05, Tunney, Stephen wrote: Ok, good to know. I have thousands of components though spread across a dozen features. Those features are shared amongst 8 products :) Stephen, how did you make out with your patch creation using this Pure-Wix method? We are just looking into the

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-04 Thread Blair Murri
12:51 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Hey Bob, Thank you for your feedback, perhaps you could assist me with my problem then. It appears as though my work with Melt and Torch is ignoring me :( Here is a link

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-10-29 Thread Tunney, Stephen
the wixmst and wixpdbs if you'd like. Stephen -Original Message- From: Bob Arnson [mailto:b...@joyofsetup.com] Sent: October-28-13 11:18 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef I would choose none of the above. :) The primary

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-10-29 Thread Tunney, Stephen
] Sent: October-29-13 12:51 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Hey Bob, Thank you for your feedback, perhaps you could assist me with my problem then. It appears as though my work with Melt and Torch is ignoring me :( Here

[WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-10-28 Thread Tunney, Stephen
Hello again everyone, Ok, so I've finally managed to get a patch generated. Good for me, I get a gold star :) Now I have a few questions 1) It looks as through using FeatureRef in my PatchFamily doesn't work. The result is an empty CAB file and a pyro.exe error PYRO0227 2) If I

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-10-28 Thread Tunney, Stephen
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Hello again everyone, Ok, so I've finally managed to get a patch generated. Good for me, I get a gold star :) Now I have a few questions 1) It looks as through using FeatureRef

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Arnson
On 28-Oct-13 20:38, Tunney, Stephen wrote: Adding DirectoryRef to the same boat as FeatureRef. I've added all directoryRefs, including the one that includes the component that I know has been updated and still no dice. :( When used in patch family filtering, only a ComponentRef will include

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-10-28 Thread Tunney, Stephen
-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef On 28-Oct-13 20:38, Tunney, Stephen wrote: Adding DirectoryRef to the same boat as FeatureRef. I've added all directoryRefs, including the one that includes the component that I know has been updated

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Arnson
. Thanks for everything so far! WiX rocks!! :) -Original Message- From: Bob Arnson [mailto:b...@joyofsetup.com] Sent: October-28-13 9:37 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef On 28-Oct-13 20:38, Tunney, Stephen wrote