Re: [WSG] Tim Berners-Lee - Keeping Web Universal

2004-06-27 Thread Mordechai Peller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this is ok to ask. This subject is of great interest to me and I can't find the original message it: Tim Berners-Lee - Keeping Web Universal. I haven't check this mailbox in a week so I've got hundreds of messages and may have accidentally deleted the original

Re: [WSG] Tim Berners-Lee - Keeping Web Universal

2004-06-27 Thread Kay Smoljak
I hope this is ok to ask. This subject is of great interest to me and I can't find the original message it: Tim Berners-Lee - Keeping Web Universal. I haven't check this mailbox in a week so I've got hundreds of messages and may have accidentally deleted the original post. Would someone

[WSG] Some links for reading...

2004-06-27 Thread russ - maxdesign
Fluid Shadows: http://www.thoughtanomalies.com/archives/2004/06/20/fluid_shadows/ Structural Naming: http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/06/26/structural-naming/ Integrated Web Design: Strategies for Long-Term CSS Hack Management: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=170511

RE: [WSG] Site Check - Firefox flicker problem

2004-06-27 Thread Avril Bowie
Hi Peter, I can confirm that your site's menu was flickering in firefox 0.8 last Monday when I first looked at it, but this morning it isn't. Have you fixed the problem? I was having the same problem on a site I'm working on and was curious how you got around the problem. Thanks -Avril

[WSG] Importing hacks into CSS? Whats the point?

2004-06-27 Thread Michael Kear
I was reading the article Integrated Web Design: Strategies for Long-Term CSS Hack Management: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=170511 Referred to by Russ in his very useful links for light reading and I read this article. Amongst other things it suggests not putting hacks into

Re: [WSG] Importing hacks into CSS? Whats the point?

2004-06-27 Thread Neerav
Mike You're right, a typical site i develop already has * main style sheet * imported style sheet for older browsers * print style sheet which is complex enough, at worst I might consider a single hacks.css file but only as a last resort -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT

Re: [WSG] Importing hacks into CSS? Whats the point?

2004-06-27 Thread Tim Lucas
Michael Kear spoke the following wise words on 28/06/2004 10:05 AM EST: Fair enough. I understand the point, I think, except that I don't think you gain anything at all by it, except more complexity in the site's file structure. Every hack now represents one more file that has to be uploaded,

Re: [WSG] Importing hacks into CSS? Whats the point?

2004-06-27 Thread Lachlan Hardy
Tim Lucas wrote: My compromise is to place all hacks for [insert your favourite buggy browser] into it's own CSS file. CSS hack techniques are forever changing. CSS fundamentals are set in stone. I'm with Mike on this. I don't see a benefit. In fact, when I read the article it looked like more

Re: [WSG] Importing hacks into CSS? Whats the point?

2004-06-27 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 12:01 PM, Lachlan Hardy wrote: I'm with Mike on this. I don't see a benefit. In fact, when I read the article it looked like more work to me : 1. Hacks in main CSS file - Hack gets outdated, edit CSS file and remove hack 2. Hacks in separate CSS file - Hack gets

Re: [WSG] Importing hacks into CSS? Whats the point?

2004-06-27 Thread Lachlan Hardy
Nick Gleitzman wrote: There may be an extra file involved, but I know which is faster... Hmmm... I guess it is a case of whatever works for the individual. I don't have a problem with running the search as I comment use of all hacks, so I just find 'hack' and I'm there... So the benefit is

Re: [WSG] IE5 Mac-friendly drop down menus

2004-06-27 Thread Marc Greenstock
I'm working on an accesssable version of the YPslideOutMenu. You can view it at www.v2.shockmedia.com.au, I have feed back that it doesn't work that well in IE5 (Mac) and Safari, however it is my intention to make it work. It works perfectly in pretty much all the windows compatable browsers but

Re: [WSG] Importing hacks into CSS? Whats the point?

2004-06-27 Thread Tim Lucas
Lachlan Hardy spoke the following wise words on 28/06/2004 1:53 PM EST: So the benefit is one of speed? Or segregation - keeping the clean code from the dirty nasty hacks? CSS hacks are only a technical workaround and provide little meaning to the CSS when viewed by somebody other than the

Re: [WSG] IE5 Mac-friendly drop down menus

2004-06-27 Thread Hugh Todd
Kay, Back in March, Kristen Morgan posted a link to the UDM website. The canned solution they have come up with looks expensive, and it's not lean and mean, but it seems to solve the compatibility issues pretty much. http://www.udm4.com/ -Hugh Todd The original Suckerfish menus *do* work in