RE: [WSG] xforms

2004-07-01 Thread Nick Cowie
Lachlan wrote: This is the most comprehensive site I've found : http://xforms.dstc.edu.au/index.html I was at a lecture by Dr Hoylen Sue on Xforms yesterday. One of the people responsible for that web site. Xforms looks promising, especially if you look at the online demos with the right

Re: [WSG] Disapearing list in Firefox 0.9

2004-07-01 Thread Ben Bishop
Hi Bhuvnesh, When I hover the mouse over an un-ordered list, the list simply disappears in FireFox 0.9. Does anybody have a remedy ? Let's check we have all the available information on this one: You have an unstyled unordered list inside the body of an otherwise empty, yet valid (x)HTML page

[WSG] Problems in Firefox and IE 5.0

2004-07-01 Thread Razvan Pop
Please got to www.seoed.com with Firefox or IE 5.0. In Firefox the content section is over the menu, if you refresh the page it will stay where it should. In IE 5.0 the main content section is too narrow. The css files: http://www.seoed.com/stylesheets/default.css

Re: [WSG] Ten questions for Richard rutter

2004-07-01 Thread Richard Rutter
On 1 Jul 2004, at 04:19, russ - maxdesign wrote: Richard Rutter, of Clagnut fame (http://www.clagnut.com/) talks about liquid layouts, scaling images access keys, ems, and the standards-based rebuild of Multimap. Thanks Russ. If anyone has any comments on the www.multimap.com rebuild please

[WSG] Quick Accessibility Quiz

2004-07-01 Thread Andy Budd
I've just posted up a quick accessibility quiz on my site. http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2004/07/ quick_accessibility_quiz_now_with_prizes/ The first 3 people with the correct answers and reasoning (as judged by me) will win a free GMail account (assuming I can remember my password).

RE: [WSG] Quick Accessibility Quiz

2004-07-01 Thread Mike Foskett
That was good, well while the server held out anyway mike 2k:)2 -Original Message- From: Andy Budd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 July 2004 09:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Quick Accessibility Quiz I've just posted up a quick accessibility quiz on my site.

Re: [WSG] xforms

2004-07-01 Thread Tonico Strasser
Barry Beattie wrote: You'll need to choose your favorite XForms implementation huh? are these just IDE's for building XForms? No, these are not developing environments, they are to XForms what a browser is to HTML or a Flash player is to a Flash movie. It seems that the next version of

[WSG] My CSS not multi browser - help needed

2004-07-01 Thread Robert O'Neill
Hello all, this is my first attempt at moving from tables to CSS for layout: http://www.ppa.org.uk/test/afc/no_tables/home.htm Looks as expected in IE6 but navigation does not float as expected in Opera and in Mozilla the footer moves to the top of the page. Any help, advice, or guidancewould

Re: [WSG] Disapearing list in Firefox 0.9

2004-07-01 Thread Mordechai Peller
Ben Bishop wrote: You have an unstyled unordered list inside the body of an otherwise empty, yet valid (x)HTML page - and when this page is rendered in Firefox 0.9 and the mouse pointer moved over the list, the list disappears? That would be a pretty big bug even for Microsoft to let

RE: [WSG] My CSS not multi browser - help needed

2004-07-01 Thread Patrick Lee
There's a few issues I could point out. Firstly, there are plenty of good fixed width 2 column layouts with a header and footer that will help show you some good practices. A google search for css layouts will help there. I thought about listing the most important issues regarding css

[WSG] Character Encoding Mismatch

2004-07-01 Thread Sage Olson
When I validate my page, I get the following message (which doesn't invalidate the page, but I still want to fix it): The character encoding specified in the HTTP header (utf-8) is different from the value in the meta element (iso-8859-1). I will use the value

[WSG] The Tables Revenge

2004-07-01 Thread ckimedia
Hi, I've read this, and found it useful but isn't it retrograde making div's into table cells so we can style non tabular data in a table ? http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200406/ equal_height_boxes_with_css_part_ii/ C * The

RE: [WSG] Quick Accessibility Quiz

2004-07-01 Thread Lee Roberts
Hello Andy, Let's give this a go. Q1. To get an A rating you need to A. Provide an HTML equivalent for image based navigation and Avoid using colour for important information Reasons: 1.1 Provide a text equivalent for every non-text element (e.g., via alt, longdesc, or

Re: [WSG] Quick Accessibility Quiz

2004-07-01 Thread Tonico Strasser
Lee Roberts wrote: Q2. To get a AA rating you must A. Use relative rather than absolute units and Avoid deprecated tags like b and i Reasons: 3.4 Use relative rather than absolute units in markup language attribute values and style sheet property values. [Priority 2] 11.2

[WSG] IFR

2004-07-01 Thread 7 sinz
Im pulling my brains out trying to get SI_IFR to work; my page keeps saying movie not loaded; i've read his article a hundred times over; and ive even downloaded his .fla's to work with, but nothing is working. HAs anyone got a simpe method of using this tech? or a online example that

RE: [WSG] Disapearing list in Firefox 0.9

2004-07-01 Thread CHAUDHRY, Bhuvnesh
I have just put the test page on a web server. The URL is: http://www.rba.gov.au/BC_Test/overview.jsp The stylesheets are: http://www.rba.gov.au/BC_Test/_Stylesheets/conf04_presentation.css http://www.rba.gov.au/BC_Test/_Stylesheets/Conf04-advanced.css

Re: [WSG] Disapearing list in Firefox 0.9

2004-07-01 Thread Lachlan Hardy
CHAUDHRY, Bhuvnesh wrote: I have just put the test page on a web server. The URL is: http://www.rba.gov.au/BC_Test/overview.jsp As indicated by both Mordechai and Ben, you should really validate your code before asking for help. It is an easy, automated way of pointing out potential bug sources

Re: [WSG] IFR

2004-07-01 Thread Ian Main
Another Image Replacement technique using flash and js. http://www.shauninman.com/mentary/past/ifr_an_fir_alternative.php http://jeffcroft.com/ is now using the technique. Ian. You will have to explain a bit more about what you are trying to do - what is SI_IFR, do you have any links to

Re: [WSG] xforms

2004-07-01 Thread Sean Corfield
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:57:08 +1000, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that the next version of ColdFusion will be using XForms as a version of CFFORM / Correct. According to what has been demo'd you will be able to auto-generate XForms from a simple form specification using cfform

[WSG] fieldset is REQUIRED

2004-07-01 Thread Mordechai Peller
After getting: Error: element label not allowed here; possible cause is an inline element containing a block-level element. I finally figured out that a fieldset is required for XHTML1.1. However, after after doing some checking I couldn't find anything at the W3C about it in anything which

Re: [WSG] Disapearing list in Firefox 0.9

2004-07-01 Thread Lachlan Hardy
My stupid, uncaffeinated self just wrote: 'id' is only to be used once on each page, whereas 'class' may be used repeatedly (or only once). Despite proof-reading it twice, I missed a major blunder : I was referring to each specific 'id', such as nav. Therefore the sentence should have read:

Re: [WSG] IFR

2004-07-01 Thread 7 sinz
Its a flash image replacement tech; from Shaun Inman.. hence the name SI_IFR sorry to confuse you bwout its relavence to standards, but people in the know was my target audience.. From: James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] IFR Date:

Re: [WSG] Character Encoding Mismatch

2004-07-01 Thread Mordechai Peller
Sage Olson wrote: Here's my header: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en That's not you HTTP header. The HTTP headers are sent by the server before even the first byte of your document is

Re: [WSG] Disapearing list in Firefox 0.9

2004-07-01 Thread Ben Bishop
I have just put the test page on a web server. The URL is: http://www.rba.gov.au/BC_Test/overview.jsp To find out what was going with your list, I used Pixy's excellent List Computed Styles favelet (http://pixy.cz/blog/favelets/) Changing the default font-size to display, then visible showed

Re: [WSG] fieldset is REQUIRED

2004-07-01 Thread Chris Stratford
I cant remember if it was the same thing, but i think it just means, inputs and form elements MUST be inside a Block element.. Something to do with that? Sorry I cant be of more help - I just know you arent required to have a fieldset... its just to do with the presence of a block element!

[WSG] The man in blue - presentation to Melbourne WSG

2004-07-01 Thread russ - maxdesign
As many of you may know, Cameron (the man in blue) gave a talk to Melbourne WSG recently. He has just posted a more eloquent enunciation of the ideas in the first half of his presentation... http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/07/02/ Enjoy. Russ The Australian Museum.

Re: [WSG] Character Encoding Mismatch

2004-07-01 Thread Ben Bishop
Hi Sage, When I validate my page, I get the following message The character encoding specified in the HTTP header (utf-8) is different from the value in the meta element (iso-8859-1). I'd like to keep the iso-8859-1 value, just because it seems to work Your web server (eg Apache) sends the

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2004-07-01 Thread Cline, Lezli
I will be out of the office on Friday, 7-2-04 returning on Tuesday, 7-6-04. Enjoy the Fourth of July weekend! Thank you, Lezli Cline * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

RE: [WSG] xforms

2004-07-01 Thread Barry Beattie
hang on Sean, I'm confused. is it either: the XFORM transformation is on the server and that pushes out HTML/JS/CSS to the browser? or it just sends the XML and XSL for the browser to handle (if so, what browsers will support this - just Mozilla)? just trying to get a handle on how useful

RE: [WSG] fieldset is REQUIRED

2004-07-01 Thread Barry Beattie
Mordechai, are you saying that, for XHTML1.1 complience, that a label and it's associated form element needs to be within a fieldset? if so, we've got a few changes to do around here ... D'oh! thanx barry.b -Original Message- From: Mordechai Peller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: