[WSG] colgroup alignment issue

2004-11-12 Thread mike . lindsay
We have encountered alignment issues between our target browsers. The code example below only works within IE, all other browsers default to standard left alignment. #datatable col.dt_currency { /* Use for columns containing currency values only. */ text-align: right; } table

[WSG] Web Standards Eye Candy: http://www.scottschiller.com/

2004-11-12 Thread Nick Lo
Smells like Flash but isn't: http://www.scottschiller.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help

Re[2]: [WSG] Float Problem on IE Mac

2004-11-12 Thread Iain Harrison
Friday, November 12, 2004, 1:46:31 AM, Philippe wrote: But putting it in the same league as NN4 is unfair, to say the least. I meant in terms of numbers, not of ability! -- Iain ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

Re[2]: [WSG] Float Problem on IE Mac

2004-11-12 Thread Iain Harrison
Friday, November 12, 2004, 12:04:59 AM, Natalie wrote: Normally, I wouldn't care about it, because it works fine in Safari, but the client whom I am developing this for uses IE5 on the mac at work. Yes, the client's browser is the most important of all ;-) Also, their target market may

Re: Re[2]: [WSG] Float Problem on IE Mac

2004-11-12 Thread Natalie Buxton
Actually no, in Australia actually. It's not a matter of popularity, but rather industry-specific quirkiness. Most designers/advertising/media/publishing types use it here. And I'd kill for a nice little powerbox and a g5 for home :) On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:57:54 +, Iain Harrison [EMAIL

Re: Re[2]: [WSG] Float Problem on IE Mac

2004-11-12 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 11/12/04 12:57 AM Iain Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Here in the UK, the Mac was never specially popular. What's the data that supports that statement? Especially given that the Mac holds the major proportion of designers' platform of choice! (oops - this is off-topic for this

Re[4]: [WSG] Float Problem on IE Mac

2004-11-12 Thread Iain Harrison
Friday, November 12, 2004, 9:12:15 AM, Rick wrote: What's the data that supports that statement? Sales figures. Market share. Web stats. Globally, the Mac is under 2.5% on web stats. In the UK, our web logs show less than 1% Macs. -- Iain

Re: Re[4]: [WSG] Float Problem on IE Mac

2004-11-12 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 11/12/04 1:21 AM Iain Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Sales figures. Market share. Web stats. Globally, the Mac is under 2.5% on web stats. Gee, I wish *I* owned 2.5% of *any* global market! :-) Rick Faaberg ** The discussion

RE: [WSG] Web Standards Eye Candy: http://www.scottschiller.com/

2004-11-12 Thread Scott Villarosa
you know, that site is good (even though personally i don't like the look)... but i must say... how practical is the technology used given today's market? just a thought. snaps for the guy's effort though. scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: [WSG] Web Standards Eye Candy: http://www.scottschiller.com/

2004-11-12 Thread Patrick Lauke
From: Scott Villarosa you know, that site is good (even though personally i don't like the look)... but i must say... how practical is the technology used given today's market? just a thought. As it's completely inaccessible when javascript is disabled/unavailable, I'd say the market is

Re: [WSG] FireFox Problem With UL/LI

2004-11-12 Thread Chris Stratford
Ahhh thanks Philippe! Yes! line-height: normal; Fixed it perfectly! Thank you very much! BOOKMARKED! Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On 12 Nov 2004, at 3:23 pm, Chris Stratford wrote: www.neester.com/beta/ The navigation menu has extra pixels in the margin after: JOURNAL, CALENDAR and UNIVERSITY...

RE: [WSG] Web Standards Eye Candy: http://www.scottschiller.com/

2004-11-12 Thread Giles Clark
As I understand it the technology is entirely practical. It is XHTML, DHTML and java script driven, IMHO a huge step forward from Flash. If you are in any doubt about this man's dedication have a look at http://www.schillmania.com it is an eyeopener. Giles -Original Message- From:

Re: [WSG] Web Standards Eye Candy: http://www.scottschiller.com/

2004-11-12 Thread Chris Hughes
Oh -- I see now it DOES work in MSIE 6... I thought it was supposed to crash it? -- Chris Hughes http://www.epicure.demon.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for

RE: [WSG] Web Standards Eye Candy: http://www.scottschiller.com/

2004-11-12 Thread Dave Lyons
yeah i think that came out a bit wrong, sorry bout that was more in a funny kinda smirky way like i said dont get me wrong i use some dhtml but in this case i think its a bit over board the site i am working on right now at 430 am had to be done in 3 days since the original web designer did

Re: [WSG] Web Standards Eye Candy: http://www.scottschiller.com/

2004-11-12 Thread Nick Lo
I'm a Mac/Linux-on-occasion/PC-only-when-I-have-to user so I could be wrong but: !-- SCOTTSCHILLER V4.04: Now with more funk. -- !-- -- !-- This code may contain questionable ECMA- -- !-- script practices. Particularly in terms -- !-- of object-oriented,

RE: [WSG] Web Standards Eye Candy: http://www.scottschiller.com/

2004-11-12 Thread Scott Villarosa
i assume he's using win32 to describe the platform that win95+ applications run on. scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Lo Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 10:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Web Standards Eye Candy:

[WSG] RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2004-11-12 Thread Laurie Keith
Title: Message I have Adobe Creative Suite Dreamweaver Homesite Flash -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 November 2004 21:34To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: digest for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi peoples I'm desperate for

RE: [WSG] RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2004-11-12 Thread Patrick Lauke
Title: Message Hmm...wonderful non-sequitur... Oh...I like bread by the way. Patrick -Original Message-From: Laurie Keith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 12 November 2004 12:04To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [WSG] RE: digest for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have Adobe

Re: [WSG] Last nights Sydney meeting

2004-11-12 Thread Bennie Shepherd
Hope I'm # 10,000 :o) sorry, had to do it. On 11/12/2004 7:58:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a good turn-out to Sydney's WSG meeting last night - with over 24 people braving the pounding rain. Scott Parsons did a great presentation on CSS Diagnosis - a detailed breakdown into CSS

[WSG] Site Critique

2004-11-12 Thread Laurie Keith
Hi, If any of you busy people have a spare 15 minutes, can you give me an honest evaluation on our new corporate web site. http://www.createwith.com I have my own opinions, but I would like to go back to the decision makers with some independent comments from other professionals. Regards,

Re: [WSG] IE6 background image issue

2004-11-12 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 12 Nov 2004, at 4:17 pm, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: IE 6 surprises me :/ http://dev.l-c-n.com/_j/head2.html A solution: ul {_display:inline-block} And IE 6 is beaten into submission. Philippe ---/--- Philippe Wittenbergh now live : http://emps.l-c-n.com/ code | design | web projects :

Re: [WSG] Site Critique

2004-11-12 Thread Susan R. Grossman
If any of you busy people have a spare 15 minutes, can you give me an honest evaluation on our new corporate web site. My first attempt was a total bust. My main browser (FF) I do't install anything - I use out of the box so that I see what users who don't install see. So no Flash.

Re: [WSG] 10,000 posts, we have a winner...

2004-11-12 Thread Jeroen Visser [ vizi ]
russ - maxdesign wrote: OK, we have decided to give the person who did the 10,000th post a prize (thanks to Core member David McDonald for the idea). Re: Web Standards Eye Candy: http://www.scottschiller.com/ By Nick Lo - Fri 12 Nov 2004 at 10:33 PM So, what does Nick win? One free copy of Apache

RE: [WSG] Site Critique

2004-11-12 Thread Sam Hutchinson
I concur with Susan. Why goto the bother of doing it all in flash? Because of the pure lack of content, you could have knocked that whole site out in plain old html in less than an hour... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan R. Grossman

Re: [WSG] Site Critique

2004-11-12 Thread Veine K Vikberg
Well..., Where to start Load time, even on DSL it loads really slow, this site is not intended for modem users at all (still the largest population of internet users) but on the other hand, by looking at your branding work, seems like you don't really cater to small clients, so you may not

Re: [WSG] IE6 background image issue

2004-11-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On 12 Nov 2004, at 4:17 pm, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: IE 6 surprises me :/ http://dev.l-c-n.com/_j/head2.html A solution: ul {_display:inline-block} And IE 6 is beaten into submission. - Reading e-mail... - milking the cows... - feeding the herd... - killing an

Re: [WSG] Site Critique

2004-11-12 Thread Felix Miata
Laurie Keith wrote: If any of you busy people have a spare 15 minutes, can you give me an honest evaluation on our new corporate web site. http://www.createwith.com I have my own opinions, but I would like to go back to the decision makers with some independent comments from other

Re: [WSG] Site Critique

2004-11-12 Thread Iain Harrison
Friday, November 12, 2004, 12:33:39 PM, Laurie wrote: If any of you busy people have a spare 15 minutes, can you give me an honest evaluation on our new corporate web site. It appears not to be a web site: just a container for a slow, bloated, inaccessible flash application, which is dull,

Re: [WSG] Site Critique

2004-11-12 Thread Paul Connolley
On 12 Nov 2004, at 12:33, Laurie Keith wrote: If any of you busy people have a spare 15 minutes, can you give me an honest evaluation on our new corporate web site. 15 minutes spent so here goes: http://www.createwith.com http://with.shunuk.co.uk It is just a simple mock-up but I wanted to show

Re: [WSG] Site Critique

2004-11-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Laurie Keith wrote: If any of you busy people have a spare 15 minutes, can you give me an honest evaluation on our new corporate web site. http://www.createwith.com Opera 7.54 on modem (44kb)... - I would have left after 30 seconds (while downloading) if this had been for real. - Looks like a

Re: [WSG] colgroup alignment issue

2004-11-12 Thread Susan R. Grossman
#datatable col.dt_currency { /* Use for columns containing currency values only. */ text-align: right; } text-align for other then text only works on IE, (which it really shouldn't - it's not text) setting your margin-right attribute instead is the way to go. Since I can't see

Re: [WSG] Site Critique

2004-11-12 Thread Carl Reynolds
Laurie Keith wrote: Hi, If any of you busy people have a spare 15 minutes, can you give me an honest evaluation on our new corporate web site. http://www.createwith.com I have my own opinions, but I would like to go back to the decision makers with some independent comments from other

Re: [WSG] Site Critique

2004-11-12 Thread Francesco
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:22:15 +, Paul Connolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 12 Nov 2004, at 12:33, Laurie Keith wrote: If any of you busy people have a spare 15 minutes, can you give me an honest evaluation on our new corporate web site. http://www.createwith.com Well, my first

Re: [WSG] colgroup alignment issue

2004-11-12 Thread Ben Curtis
We have encountered alignment issues between our target browsers. The code example below only works within IE, all other browsers default to standard left alignment. #datatable col.dt_currency {   /* Use for columns containing currency values only. */         text-align: right; } Could be

Re: [WSG] Web Standards Eye Candy: http://www.scottschiller.com/

2004-11-12 Thread Dave Lyons
i wasnt starting saying anything about what you wrote i was mearly commenting on the opinion that the user posted about dhtml being a better technology than flash -- Original Message -- From: Nick Lo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:

Re: [WSG] 10,000 posts, we have a winner...

2004-11-12 Thread Lee Underwood
And here's to the addition of a grammar checker ... ;-) Lee Thank you to everyone who has contributed to the 10,000 posts - hears to the next 10,000. Russ and Peter

Re: [WSG] Site Critique

2004-11-12 Thread Joseph Lindsay
Just to add my 2c to the weight of opinion, I'm on a broadband connection and I had to wait too long. I'm glad I'm not on dial-up. On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:58:32 -0800, Chris Kennon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've not read the entire thread, someone has probably mentioned this. The

Re: [WSG] 10,000 posts, we have a winner...

2004-11-12 Thread Chris Stratford
Jeroen Visser [ vizi ] wrote: russ - maxdesign wrote: OK, we have decided to give the person who did the 10,000th post a prize (thanks to Core member David McDonald for the idea). Re: Web Standards Eye Candy: http://www.scottschiller.com/ By Nick Lo - Fri 12 Nov 2004 at 10:33 PM So, what does Nick

Re[2]: [WSG] colgroup alignment issue

2004-11-12 Thread Iain Harrison
Friday, November 12, 2004, 7:23:40 PM, Ben wrote: Could be wrong here, or just showing my age, but I recall standards in 1999 saying that underscores were forbidden in class and id names. I think they were always legal in css as long as they weren't at the beginning of the name. However, I'm

Underscores and multiple class names (WAS: Re: [WSG] colgroup alignment issue)

2004-11-12 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Iain Harrison wrote: Friday, November 12, 2004, 7:23:40 PM, Ben wrote: Could be wrong here, or just showing my age, but I recall standards in 1999 saying that underscores were forbidden in class and id names. I think they were always legal in css as long as they weren't at the beginning of the

Re: [WSG] Web Standards Eye Candy: http://www.scottschiller.com/

2004-11-12 Thread mike . lindsay
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2004-11-12 Thread mike . lindsay
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[WSG] Site check please - launched it finally!

2004-11-12 Thread Michael Kear
You might recall that some time ago I offered the opportunity to starting-designers to have a go at designing a radio station web site. I said there was no money involved but wed try to pay with advertising and promotion etc for the designer. Well heres progress on whats happened.

Re: [WSG] css scrolling

2004-11-12 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 11/12/04 9:21 PM Bennie Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I'm playing around with css scrolling and would like to know if there is a way to stop the scrolling list from resetting to the top of the list in IE 6 or just jumping back up the list in FF. Unrelated, but after

Re: [WSG] css scrolling

2004-11-12 Thread Bennie Shepherd
Rick, Would you check the site again? I removed the css scrolling, hope that was the problem. On 11/13/2004 12:39:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/12/04 9:21 PM Bennie Shepherd sent this out: I'm playing around with css scrolling and would like to know if there is a way to

Re: [WSG] Site check please - launched it finally!

2004-11-12 Thread Chris Stratford
Hey Michael, Looks great! One thing I would say is that the menu structure may be confusing - maybe not. But whenever the menu drops down - eg: for ABOUT. I didnt think there would or should be differnt links for the two menu items called about... it looks like this: ABOUT ABOUT GEEKY STUFF

Re: [WSG] css scrolling

2004-11-12 Thread Chris Stratford
A side note. There is a lot of redundant CSS code in your stylesheet - especially with the links. Your not using the nature of CSS to its advantage where styles cascade down... Bennie Shepherd wrote: I'm playing around with css scrolling and would like to know if there is a way to stop the

RE: [WSG] Site check please - launched it finally!

2004-11-12 Thread Michael Kear
G'day Chris Thanks for pointing that menu thing out. Somewhere along the line I've changed a setting somewhere because that other 'About' is supposed to say 'About the web site'. And yes, it's me. My show is a specialty bluegrass music show from 2am - dawn every Friday to about 3000 people