[WSG] Final Reminder - Join us next week in Berlin: 27th Unicode Conference

2005-03-31 Thread Tex Texin
Unicode, Cultural Diversity and Multilingual Computing http://www.global-conference.com/iuc27/ Berlin, Germany April 6-8, 2005

[WSG] Information Architecture and relevence to Web Standards Development

2005-03-31 Thread Neerav
A few days I came across the term Information Architecture in the context of a web development position listed on a recruitment companys website advertising for: An Information architect with : Strong HTML/DHTML/XHTML/CSS/Javascript skills, Dreamweaver/MX knowledge

RE: [WSG] Hidden Content

2005-03-31 Thread Mike Foskett
Hi all, I don't actually believe that CSS styling will make any difference to search engine ranking. These robots spend enough time trawling through the HTML content. It would be time wasted to cross reference the content against: visibility, display, colours used, z-index and positioning. I

[WSG] need design suggestions

2005-03-31 Thread john
Hello, group. Can get a bit of advice for you all, please? My client has suddenly informed me that they would like to enable the images of their products to be enlarged, if the user wishes. This wasn't originally in the spec, and I didn't design it for such a feature. However, this morning I

[WSG] typographic challenge with css

2005-03-31 Thread Vaska . WSG
Hi folks: I'm trying to do something and I'm not sure if this is possible. What I want to do is write simple sentence constructed of left floated divs...like... div class='sentence'This/div div class='sentence'is/div div class='sentence'a/div div class='sentence'sentence./div The tricky part,

Re: [WSG] Hidden Content

2005-03-31 Thread Kay Smoljak
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:46:23 +0100, Mike Foskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't actually believe that CSS styling will make any difference to search engine ranking. These robots spend enough time trawling through the HTML content. It would be time wasted to cross reference the content

Re: [WSG] typographic challenge with css

2005-03-31 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:31:25 +0100, Vaska.WSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The tricky part, since I can't do this with a span (I believe) is that I only want class='sentence' to be just the width of the word itself (just as a span does it) a bit offtopic note: From CSS point of view there is no

Re: [WSG] typographic challenge with css

2005-03-31 Thread Vaska . WSG
Thanks for that. I was missing the span display:block...plus I had forgotten the simplicity of a floated div that doesn't have a width applied to it. *) except old buggy browsers, ofcourse Yep...it's will work in IE5/Mac is it's just span (without display:block) oddly enough, otherwise it

Re: [WSG] Hidden Content

2005-03-31 Thread Ben Hamilton
Google do remove pages from their index. Current case in point is WordPress. Andre Torrez http://notes.torrez.org/ was the first to note that links to the articles (168,000 of them!) delare/delwere hidden on the Wordpress homepage using negative positioning with CSS. See

RE: [WSG] Hidden Content

2005-03-31 Thread Mike Foskett
It still comes down to the legalities. If Google receive a complaint, and it appears justifiable, then it is acted upon in good faith. There is a document trail which is admissible as proof. If a googlebot, on the other hand, automatically bans a site for what it thinks is wrong. Then Google

Re: [WSG] Information Architecture and relevence to Web Standards Development

2005-03-31 Thread Ben Bishop
Information Architecture and relevance to Web Standards Development I missed the bit where you explained the relevance to Web Standards, but I'm sure you're just getting the topic warmed up :) While IA is indeed important, only discussions specifically on IA Web Standards would be on-topic

Re: [WSG] Hidden Content

2005-03-31 Thread Tom Livingston
I'm not flaming you - but have you seen this: Why Google's indexing of swfs is worthless http://www.quasimondo.com/archives/000404.php Same old same old. If you read the comments, one person states that he has a Flash-based forum that is entirely indexed by Google. -- - Tom Livingston

[WSG] Re: Hidden Content

2005-03-31 Thread Tom Livingston
Flash actually is searchable. Hmm. Does it have to be a specific version of flash, built a specific way? Just thinking of claims that flash is accessible, which actually means flash mx can be accessible if the developer really knows what they are doing; and the user knows how to use it, has the

Re: [WSG] Hidden Content

2005-03-31 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:35:50 +0100, Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not flaming you - but have you seen this: Why Google's indexing of swfs is worthless http://www.quasimondo.com/archives/000404.php Same old same old. If you read the comments, one person states that he has a

[WSG] Structure Advice and IE display - solutionpark.ch

2005-03-31 Thread Michael Vogt
Hi. I see a lot of usefull advice for all the requests for site review on this list, so please allow me to also provide a page from a site I'm currently working on, and asking for feedback. My main interest is feedback for the HTML-structure. While we are bound to HTML 4 trans right now, because

[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2005-03-31 Thread Jacqueline MARCUS
Thank you for your email. I am on leave from April 1 till April 10. If you have any urgent queries please call Online Services on extensions 9084, 9088 or 9048. regards, Jacqueline Marcus Disclaimer: This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If

[WSG] list bullet question

2005-03-31 Thread Drake, Ted C.
I have a global list question. When creating custom bullets, I tend to use the background and padding avenue. I know you can also assign an image as a bullet. My question is, which is better? Is one method more bullet-proof? Thank you for any input Ted

[WSG] Extra hidden content

2005-03-31 Thread Stevio
How do you handle the situation of hidden elements becoming displayed when the normal stylesheet is not used? Is this a problem that concerns you? For example, I quite often have two headers - one which integrates with the site design when viewed on screen, and one which is used for printing

Re: [WSG] list bullet question

2005-03-31 Thread russ - maxdesign
Hi Ted, All personal opinion, but the bullet as background image has a lot of advantages: - You have far more control over the positioning of the bullet, as you can set it in any position using a range of units (pixel, ems, percents. You can even position the bullets under the list items if

Re: [WSG] list bullet question

2005-03-31 Thread Alan Trick
Hi, There are several advatages to using list-style-image you can click on the image to select the list item it's slightly simpler you can still have another background-image on the element IMHO, the bullet as background image is still better though because of buggy css support. Alan

Re: [WSG] Extra hidden content

2005-03-31 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Stevio wrote: How do you handle the situation of hidden elements becoming displayed when the normal stylesheet is not used? Is this a problem that concerns you? Pages should make sense when stylesheets are disabled (for users of screenreaders, text-only browsers, users with css disabled, search

Re: [WSG] Hidden Content

2005-03-31 Thread Chris Dimmock
Tom Livingston wrote: Flash actually is searchable. There's even a search SDK for search engines. It's also accessible, with tab order/indexing, etc. Search SDK was designed as a tool for search engines themselves to extract data from Flash (up to V6) files - the key issue, as outlined below, is

[WSG] Any Safari 1.0 users out there?

2005-03-31 Thread Maxine Sherrin
I wonder if someone could confirm something for me. I got a comment the other day about a specific page at our site having major problems in Safari 1.0. I don't actually have access to Safari 1.0, and the person who made the comment now seems to have disappeared. But, being a in the business

Re: [WSG] Any Safari 1.0 users out there?

2005-03-31 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 1 Apr 2005, at 1:16 pm, Maxine Sherrin wrote: I wonder if someone could confirm something for me. I got a comment the other day about a specific page at our site having major problems in Safari 1.0. I don't actually have access to Safari 1.0, and the person who made the comment now seems to

Re: [WSG] Any Safari 1.0 users out there?

2005-03-31 Thread JonathanC
Looks fine here. (Safari 1.0, Mac OSX 10.2.8) Regards, Jonathan Cooper Manager of Information / Website Art Gallery of New South Wales Sydney, Australia http://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/04/2005 02:16:51 PM: I wonder if someone could confirm something for me. I

[WSG] Main Content won't Center Align in IE

2005-03-31 Thread standards
G'day Mates, I've persuaded a client to convert their small web site to standards, and I'm in the process of removing tables, and using CSS to control the layout and design. My problem is the main content area on the homepage is left justified in IE, but center aligned in FF and Opera, which is

Re: [WSG] Main Content won't Center Align in IE

2005-03-31 Thread Chris Stratford
Hey Mario, IE Doesnt understand margin: auto You need to give the parent container text-align: center - then in the child (#container) have: text-align: left to fix the centered text. Simply add this to your body {} CSS: text-align: center; Because you already have: text-align: justify - there

Re: [WSG] Main Content won't Center Align in IE

2005-03-31 Thread Kazuhito Kidachi
Hi, I think your question is a kind of FAQ, and the solution is adding text-align:center; style to the body element, I guess. On Apr 1, 2005 3:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My problem is the main content area on the homepage is left justified in IE, but center aligned in FF

[WSG] Vertical navbar with hidden menu items in CSS

2005-03-31 Thread Danielle Hickie
Does any one know how to do this sort of menu with CSS only? I am looking for something that works in Ie 5.5 and Firefox 1.0. The example I'm looking at: http://tutorials.alsacreations.com/deroulant/menu-vertical.htm Thanks very much, Dan Hickie

Re: [WSG] Main Content won't Center Align in IE

2005-03-31 Thread David Laakso
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 00:58:55 -0600 (CST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I want it to center align in IE too therefore what am I doing wrong? Here's the URL for the test file: http://www.waltermortgage.com/index1.stm Any advice is always appreciated! Add text-align: center to the body

Re: [WSG] Main Content won't Center Align in IE

2005-03-31 Thread standards
Chris, I feel stupid! I completely forgot IE doesn't recognize margin: auto, and I've inserted text-align: center in the CSS body rule in another design. Please forgive my temporary memory freeze :) Again, I've just gotten started on the conversion, and do plan on removing all table tags.

Re: [WSG] Main Content won't Center Align in IE

2005-03-31 Thread Lennart Fylling
On Apr 1, 2005 3:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My problem is the main content area on the homepage is left justified in IE, but center aligned in FF and Opera, which is correct. The following is a snippet from my CSS file, which controls the main content area: #container

Re: [WSG] Any Safari 1.0 users out there?

2005-03-31 Thread Will Jensen
I have Safari 1.2.4 (v125.12) with OS-X version 10.3.8 - Your page is fine. I know an earlier version of Safari had problems with some websites that used Javascript or some CGI scripts for user/password logins. But even that has gone away after the latest OS-X update. Your 'disappeared' user may