Peter and Thierry.. yes both those links are perfect.. i can get the drift
now. thanks so much
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This time last year you couldnt pop your head out the door without John
Allsopp trying to sell you tickets to Web Essentials 2004 :-)
So far in 2005 I havent heard anything about tickets for Web Essentials
2005 being sold but according to http://molly.com/events.php its already
being planned,
hi all,
ok, I work with frames, but my client want's that
(and a content manegment program, so he can update himself).
But now I get a horizontal scrollbar (only in
IE)in the .php-fileswhich worked fine as long as they were
htm-files:
Yes, Neerav,
There will be a WE05 in Sydney. It will be about twice as full on as last
year, as we have around 5-6 speakers. More importantly:
1. There will be a strong representation of female speakers (something sadly
missing from last years event)
2. The event will be split into streams, so
Ian Fenn
One of my client sites which looked great in Firefox up to
v1.0.2 suddenly
looks a bit strange. The most significant difference is that
background
images inserted through the css do not seem to be displayed.
No issues here, on 3 separate machines that I've upgraded.
More than
Hi Dani,
I think I found the error
table width=637 border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0
background=opmaak/bg_table_n.jpg
tr
td height=20nbsp;/td
tdnbsp;/td
td valign=bottom class=pijla href=#benedenimg
src=opmaak/pijl_ben.gif alt=naar beneden width=12 height=12
border=0/a/td
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:49:35 +0100, Daniela Hoffmann
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ok, I work with frames, but my client want's that (and a content
manegment program, so he can update himself).
But frames aren't neccessary for that. PHP has include()
But now I get a horizontal scrollbar (only in
FYI for people who used to use the now defunct Netscape DevEdge site,
mozilla.org is now in charge of the content and has temporarily mirrored
it at http://devedge-temp.mozilla.org/index_en.html while figuring how
to best organise it
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Hello listpeople, first post so here goes,
A client has insisted on having drop down menus integrated into the
standards compliant site I've already developed for them. I don't want
to do it as I think the site doesn't actually need them but, as I said,
they've insisted. I've used the
I wouldn't worry about this browser if I were you, it's based on a pre
release of Mozilla 1.0, is used by about 0.5% of the population and
can easily be upgraded to a stable version.
On 4/18/05, Rebecca Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone ever found a way to do this? (besides with scripting
Hi,
http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/
http://alistapart.com/articles/hybrid/
etc.
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Interesting thoughts from Vincent Flanders:
http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/biggest-web-design-mistakes-in-2004.html
Go to number 3: Mystical belief in the power of Web Standards, Usability,
and tableless CSS
What do you think?
Stephen
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Funny. I agree with this article. I even wrote something quite similar
a while ago:
http://www.i-marco.nl/weblog/archive/2005/04/07/why_xhtml
Web standards are great for perfectionists like us. I love them and I'll
continue to use them and teach other people how to use them but honestly,
they
Nice! Thanks Jan - Now I have to persuade them that it really isn't
possible to get them to glide in gracefully just like Word does...
Hi,
http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/
http://alistapart.com/articles/hybrid/
etc.
Lee
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That he might be particularly right. All of this is not self-salutary,
there are many other points that lead to a successful website.
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There is nothing wrong with any of the above except they're being touted
by...guess who?...people who offer web design services specializing
in...guess what?...Web Standards, Usability, and tableless CSS. These are
simply tools. Remember, nobody gets excited about the tools used to build a
Yep, he probably is right about that , but he's wrong about something
else . My home page uses web standards and it's no monument to great
design.
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.webpagesthatsuck.com%2F...
Jan Brasna wrote:
Go to number 3: Mystical belief in the power of
Original Message From: Stevio
Sent: 20 April 2005 14:49
Interesting thoughts from Vincent Flanders:
http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/biggest-web-design-mistakes-in-2004.html
Go to number 3: Mystical belief in the power of Web Standards, Usability,
and tableless CSS
What do you think?
Further more (this rubbish by or about people justifying their inability to
do a job right really annoys me).
A person developing a website is expected to produce a product that serves
HTML or XHTML and through that some other files (images, stylesheets etc.)
to a browser. Lets just go with the
Actually, the requirement for having p (or
whatever) in your blockquotes is sort of a weird
one, IMHO. I believe they've planned to remove that
from xhtml2, but in your case it makes sense anyways.
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I've inserted a bunch of brs
within the quote in
I'm still used to most of this web stuff and have
spent most of my time with the design part of web
design. But the fact that I have to use a '.php'
after in almost all my urls on my site really bugs me.
Can anybody point me to a reference that can tell me
how to config it so that
You could use Apache's Content Negotiation.
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/content-negotiation.html
I'm not sure about the passed parameters though.
--Zachary
On 4/20/05, Mr Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm still used to most of this web stuff and havespent most of my time with the design part
After converting the web site at my last job to web standards, our
production time for adding new products went from several months to a week.
Style sheets and semantic code made production so easy, we cancelled an open
position we were interviewing for.
Saving the cost of one person's wages =
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_rewrite.html
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Web Standards, Usability, and tableless CSS. These are
simply tools. Remember, nobody gets excited about the tools used to build a
house (Please tell me what brand of hammers you used!). People get excited
about how the house looks and performs.
/quote
Surely they're not so much tools as
Mr Bean
Can anybody point me to a reference that can tell me
how to config it so that 'http://abc.def/hij' can
point to 'http://abc.def/hij.php'? I'm using a 1.3.x
Appache server.
There are many ways, but the simplest: add multiviews
option (either in httpd.conf or via an .htaccess file)
Lee Jorgensen wrote:
http://alistapart.com/articles/hybrid/
I didn't know about that one, but I believe it is the worst article ever
published by ALA.
The author says:
What if we could have one clean, well-structured menu which would combine
the dynamism and code-ease of dropdown menus and do
Hi All
I came across a safari display issue that
I don't understand. It's for an intranet, so I can't send you
to the page to view code.
The page looks good in Windows Firefox and
IE6 and is valid xhtml 1.0 transitional.
I'm using a sprite to display
various list bullets; the sprite
Thanks for your input. I sorta figured br's weren't forbidden fruit within
blockquotep but I just wanted to ask.
how important is it that
there is a line break after seldom and books?
Well, hum, okay. You're right, It's not that important.
I come from 26 years in print design (only the past 3
There is a vital ingredient in web design which is never mentioned by guys
like this : IMAGE. There are many web sites which sell nothing but image -
no products, no marketing: just image. Such a site is:
http://www.fosterandpartners.com/internetsite/Flash.html
It suffers from many of the
Simply make this file in your root directory:
.htaccess
inside that include:
ReWriteEngine On
Then for every new link you want, add this:
ReWriteRule ^linktofile.html$ phpfile.php
That will point http://www.yoursite.com/linktofile.html - phpfile.php
You can use REGEX in this, eg:
ReWriteRule
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:41:34 +0100, designer
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There is a vital ingredient in web design which is never mentioned by
guys like this : IMAGE. There are many web sites which sell nothing
but image -
no products, no marketing: just image. Such a site is:
I saw the IMAGE
Yeah... Image or branding flash site looks IMHO different than this.
This looks really quickly put together with no intention and idea.
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Original Message by Bob McClelland
There is a vital ingredient in web design which is never mentioned by guys
like this : IMAGE. There are many web sites which sell nothing
but image -
no products, no marketing: just image. Such a site is:
Hi Kornel,
4 seconds and I go back to Mars.
I saw the IMAGE, all hundreds kilobytes of it,
but I don't know who they are and what they're selling.
Well you would, if you looked at the site . . .
Small and blurry text. I just skip over blocks of text because I can't
read them.
Clicking
IMO this site creates a bad image for their owners rather than a
positive one, but personal opinions aside... I wonder if those who seem
to like this type of site can answer a few questions to help us put this
in perspective: What is the purpose for the existence of this site? What
do the
designer wrote:
4 seconds and I go back to Mars.
I saw the IMAGE, all hundreds kilobytes of it,
but I don't know who they are and what they're selling.
Well you would, if you looked at the site . . .
And what if I'm blind or visually impaired? Or are you going to argue
that in that case, you
Well you would, if you looked at the site . . .
And what if I'm blind or visually impaired? Or are you going to argue
that in that case, you won't appreciate the content of the site either,
so b*gger off?
I would argue that in a heartbeat - when you're talking about an
architectural or
Yep, he probably is right about that , but he's wrong about something else
. My home page uses web standards and it's no monument to great design.
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.webpagesthatsuck.com%2F...
Hah! But theres only *88* errors, so its not that bad ;)
On 4/20/05, Collin Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would argue that in a heartbeat - when you're talking about an
architectural or otherwise design showcase site - what designer is going to
give half a though to blind or visually impaired users? Quite honestly, in
a situation like this
Collin Davis wrote:
I would argue that in a heartbeat - when you're talking about an
architectural or otherwise design showcase site - what designer is going to
give half a though to blind or visually impaired users? Quite honestly, in
a situation like this site... who cares about them? - it's
At 01:40 PM 4/20/2005, Collin Davis wrote:
I would argue that in a heartbeat - when you're talking about an
architectural or otherwise design showcase site - what designer is going to
give half a though to blind or visually impaired users? Quite honestly, in
a situation like this site... who
I think you misunderstand my point - I'm talking about a very small niche
here - design sites where the only purpose is to showcase design - not to be
accessible, not to have content, not for any other purpose than showcasing
design. In the example of the Foster and Partners example, there is an
I'm sitting here adding labels to a form that is over 1300 lines of code,
for= id=, blah blah blah, this form page has taken me about 5 hours to
convert so far.
Why? For the sake of accessibility and usability.
Why? Because it is important for me to make content available to everyone.
Is it
An interesting peiceOn 4/20/05, Paul Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yep, he probably is right about that , but he's wrong about something
else. My home page uses web standards and it's no
monument to great design. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.webpagesthatsuck.com%2F...
If you're using an Apache Server, you can do this via a .htaccess file
Here's how you code it:
Files page1
ForceType application/x-httpd-php
/Files
Replace page1 with the file name of your choice. Save page1 with all
your PHP coding as a file with *no* file name extensions, as Apache
will
You have something wrong with your padding declaratives. Replace it with this:
ul li {list-style-type:none; background: url(bg-bullets.png) no-repeat
0 5px; padding:12px;}
Once you apply full padding around the entire image, everything should
work properly.
- Anthony
On 4/20/05, Drake, Ted C.
There is a vital ingredient in web design which is never mentioned by guys
like this : IMAGE. There are many web sites which sell nothing but image
The Web Pages That Suck guy sort of covers that, further down the
page. He says (in his section on Mystery Meat) that it's OK for
certain sites:
Beware of the catch that with ForceType Apache accepts only GET requests
and drops all POST data.
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I came up with a very hacky solution for this kind of thing, for a
server where I didn't have access to mod_rewrite or whatever.
Instead of
website.com/cgi-bin/script.cgi?id=1
website.com/cgi-bin/script.cgi?id=2
website.com/cgi-bin/script.cgi?id=3
I created
website.com/1/
Perhaps the point here should be:
If you have a Flash Site and an HTML Site, then why not make the HTML Site
accessible?
It takes exactly the same amount of effort and it's not as though your
design is extrameley difficult to be realised in standards compliant
XHTML/CSS.
Why not take a couple of
Collin Davis wrote:
I think you misunderstand my point - I'm talking about a very small niche
here - design sites where the only purpose is to showcase design - not to be
accessible, not to have content, not for any other purpose than showcasing
design.
I don't think anyone missed your point. It's
Hi
If you use a rubber hammer, you'll never be able to bang the nails in
to build the house in the first place.
Of course. having a discussion here doesn't help -- it's preaching to
the converted. Stick it in his blog somewhere, he alludes to it but I
couldn't find. Stick it somewhere so Google
Hi all ;o)
Requesting a site check as well as design comments/suggestions...
www.vfme.com
Off-list responses encouraged, but if it's an issue you think everyone would
benefit from please post on-list.
BTW: if anyone wants to contribute a recipe, that would be great too!
Many thanks,
Richard
On 21 Apr 2005, at 12:58 am, Drake, Ted C. wrote:
However, in Safari, the bullet is appearing, as it should, on a list
and
then immediately above bullet is a half bullet. This is really odd. It
is
repeating the background image.
Here's the style:
ul li {list-style-type:none; background:
Using FF1.0.3, WinXPsp2, 1280x1024.
On the FAQ page, last question, the link, when i mouseover this, it
only becomes a link in a very small area (i.e. not over it but just
above it). All the other links I tried work correctly.
Do vegans make better lovers? They think so. (www.newveg.av.org).
Vincent Flanders only includes business and/or public service sites as
web sites that suck - he has stated in the past that he considers
personal sites, entertainment sites etc to fall under different
rules.
Plus he's a lot more with it than Jakob, and more of a standards
evangelist which Mr
That's really bizzare, ben.
Thanks for pointing it out - I'll look into it...
:o)
Richard
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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] New site: something for vegans
Using FF1.0.3,
I think it's to do with your image http://www.vfme.com/images/bgFooter.gif
overlaying it.
I'd look at adding a bit of padding to the bottom of the content.
Ben.
On 4/21/05, Richard Czeiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's really bizzare, ben.
Thanks for pointing it out - I'll look into it...
http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/biggest-web-design-mistakes-in-2004.html
What do you think?
Well... the piece would would have made sense if his point was you
still need to do this, but you need to filter the way you tell the
client. Instead, the implication here is that we should stop
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