RE: [WSG] liquid 2-3 column layout

2005-05-04 Thread Martin Baylis
Take a look at http://www.sitepoint.com/article/how-to-hire-a-web-designer All of the inside pages have the hide nav style design I think your talking about. good designers copy, great designers steal M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [WSG] liquid 2-3 column layout

2005-05-04 Thread Neerav
martin I believe you mean To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism to steal from many is research :-) In practical terms this means don't just copy sitepoints (or anyone else's) code directly because this is neither ethical or legal and you wont learn how to do it properly Instead find

Re: [WSG] liquid 2-3 column layout

2005-05-04 Thread Kym Kovan
Hi Grant, you wrote: Hi, I'd like to make a site with the option of 2 or 3 columns. The Nav column (left)and content column (centre) would always be present. The news column on the right would be optional. ___ ||

Re: [WSG] Jumping text in FF and Netscape

2005-05-04 Thread Marwan Farha
For font sizing try this: body { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:1em; } p { font-size: 0.7em;} If you stick with arial this will give you a font size of around 12px which can be resized. Try different sizes with different decimal digits (0.725 etc..)

Re: [WSG] liquid 2-3 column layout

2005-05-04 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On 4 May 2005, at 4:59 PM, Neerav wrote: I believe you mean To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism to steal from many is research :-) In practical terms this means don't just copy sitepoints (or anyone else's) code directly because this is neither ethical or legal and you wont learn how

Re: [WSG] DOM tutorials/books?

2005-05-04 Thread James Denholm-Price
On 5/3/05, Zulema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any good books or tutorials that I can read/follow to learn all about the DOM? If you're looking for a book my favourite is Flanagan's JavaScript: The Definitive Guide (O'Reilly) James **

Re: [WSG] liquid 2-3 column layout

2005-05-04 Thread Parker Torrence
On 4 May 2005, at 4:59 PM, Neerav wrote: I believe you mean To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism to steal from many is research :-) In practical terms this means don't just copy sitepoints (or anyone else's) code directly because this is neither ethical or legal and you

[WSG] Standards-compliant reader poll software

2005-05-04 Thread Townson, Chris
Hi - I'm looking for a good (i.e. standards-compliant) piece of software for generating/administering reader polls. I was wondering whether anyone out there has had any particularly good or bad experiences that they would be prepared to share, so I know where to look and where to avoid!

[WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning

2005-05-04 Thread Drake, Ted C.
I've been working on a three column layout that has been just peachy, other than an IE bug that paints over the content of selected sub sections on hover or when clicking a link: http://tdrake.net/generic-test.html I've tried numerous fixes and even thought I had it solved by replacing hex colors

Re: [WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning

2005-05-04 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Drake, Ted C. wrote: I've looked at about 3 dozen web sites this morning discussing the best three column layout and it is getting really confusing. So many of them are variations of each other and there are few dates on the pages to know what is new and better. Hi Ted, I don't know if this

[WSG] Headings within ul Navigation

2005-05-04 Thread Jamie Mason
Title: Headings within ul Navigation Hey all, Does anyone know whether it's correct to use headings in your navigation? e.g. ul lih2Item/h2/li lih2Item/h2/li lih2Item/h2/li lih2Item/h2 ul lih3Sub Item/h3/li lih3Sub Item/h3/li lih3Sub Item/h3/li /ul /li lih2Item/h2/li

Re: [WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning

2005-05-04 Thread David Laakso
On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:15:01 -0400, Drake, Ted C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please help. What is a bullet-proof three-column layout I wish I knew, too. that gives me a header, footer, and the center column is liquid. I don't care about the order of the divs. Just in case you change your mind

Re: [WSG] Headings within ul Navigation

2005-05-04 Thread Matt Thommes
Why do you want all those header tags in there- for display purposes? I don't think it's invalid - I just don't see the purpose yet It's probably better to just class the ul or li, such as ul class=heading1, and then style all those headings for the correct appearance. Matthom matthom.com/

Re: [WSG] Headings within ul Navigation

2005-05-04 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 04 May 2005 17:31:06 +0100, Jamie Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Does anyone know whether it's correct to use headings in your navigation? Technically h is allowed in li, but semantically - I think it's not. IMHO headings should only be before actual content, so when you jump

Re: [WSG] Headings within ul Navigation

2005-05-04 Thread Erik Peterson
Matt Thommes wrote: Why do you want all those header tags in there- for display purposes? I don't think it's invalid - I just don't see the purpose yet It's probably better to just class the ul or li, such as ul class=heading1, and then style all those headings for the correct appearance.

[WSG] DL Time -- Headings within ul Navigation

2005-05-04 Thread Drake, Ted C.
If you want headers in your unordered list, use a definition list instead. The dt is your header and the dd's are your list elements. Check out the latest version of http://www.seriocomic.com for an interesting take on the dl as navigation with the expanding menu. I've already adapted the same

Re: [WSG] update-- liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning

2005-05-04 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Drake, Ted C. wrote: I've got a question. You mention the IE painting bug, which is very similar to the issue that I am having. Hi Ted, I think I mentionned this bug re: the ALA demo page. Did you notice background painting problems with my pages? However, I was able to solve the problem,

Re: [WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning

2005-05-04 Thread Thierry Koblentz
David Laakso wrote: Just in case you change your mind about source order: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/ FYI: The ALA's article doesn't mention a few things: - links inside the right column appear not to be clickable in Opera 6, - there are background painting problems in

Re: [WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning

2005-05-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Thierry Koblentz wrote: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/ FYI: The ALA's article doesn't mention a few things: - links inside the right column appear not to be clickable in Opera 6, - there are background painting problems in IE, - there is one structural hack missing from the

Re: [WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning

2005-05-04 Thread Lea de Groot
On Wed, 04 May 2005 22:47:45 +0200, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: - How many of the old browser-versions should be allowed to influence our choice of design-methods? - Aren't there enough bugs and flaws in the new browser-versions? - Where's the quality control for browsers vs. standards -- is there

Re: [WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning

2005-05-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lea de Groot wrote: But, as always, log file results drive the testing. Sounds pretty counter-productive to me, but I guess it makes economical sense in the short run -- and preserves status quo. Pity I never read log files. I'm too busy -- testing for new bugs. ;-) regards Georg --

Re: [WSG] Cleaner two column float left?

2005-05-04 Thread Stuart Homfray
tee wrote: I am working on an order form that I set to two column float left item 1 item 2 item 3 item 4 item 5 item 6 item 7 item 8 The floats will do it: container { width: (less than 3x the width of floatedItem); } floatedItem { float: left; width: 49%; } SHOULD work in

Re: [WSG] Cleaner two column float left?

2005-05-04 Thread Peter Ottery
Tee wrote: Is it possible to make it this way and make IE happy at the same time? div class=twoCol labelitem 1/label labelitem 2/label labelitem 3/label labelitem 4/label labelitem 5/label. /div So that I don't need to put a spacer class in between every two items. there may be

Re: [WSG] Cleaner two column float left?

2005-05-04 Thread tee
Hi Peter and Staurt, Thanks a lot for the help. I got fixed. tee eg, make label 20em wide, and div class=twoCol 41em wide (i'd leave 1em buffer space just to allow for slight rendering differences) and then the labels would stack on top of each other in 2 columns. get me?

Re: [WSG] Form Validation error

2005-05-04 Thread Peter J. Farrell
tee wrote: Hi, I run a validation for my order form and it gave me error :end tag for element form which is not open /form But I do have open form tag: form method=post action=../cgi-bin/mcart/mof.cgi / get rid of the trailing / in the line above form method=post

Re: [WSG] Form Validation error

2005-05-04 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
tee wrote: Hi, I run a validation for my order form and it gave me error :end tag for element form which is not open /form But I do have open form tag: form method=post action=../cgi-bin/mcart/mof.cgi / Remove that last slash at the end. You're self-closing the form tag, which is not what

Re: [WSG] Form Validation error

2005-05-04 Thread tee
Thanks all, this is really embarrassing! Question I asked in the last 4 days were the result of my carelessness. I hope it doesn't give an impression that I am here for quick answer without doing my homework. Regards, tee Remove that last slash at the end. You're self-closing the form tag,

Re: [WSG] Form Validation error

2005-05-04 Thread tee
Also, have anybody done the e-commerce site that is fully xhtml validated? Yep. Can I see the site Please? I find it too much a challenge! It's quite interesting to do so. Only if deadline is not due :( tee ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] Form Validation error

2005-05-04 Thread Jan Brasna
Can I see the site Please? The big one I meant is covered with NDA, so I can't tell you. There are two more under development, one available to outside - a really small one on http://www.bonsoir.cz/obchod/ (I'm working on it right now, so not all parts rewritten yet) Only if deadline is not

Re: [WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning

2005-05-04 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Just some quick questions -- and please don't misunderstand me here. :-) NP ;-) - How many of the old browser-versions should be allowed to influence our choice of design-methods? - Aren't there enough bugs and flaws in the new browser-versions? I see your point, but

Re: [WSG] Form Validation error

2005-05-04 Thread Kay Smoljak
On 5/5/05, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, have anybody done the e-commerce site that is fully xhtml validated? This one is valid: http://www.australianopalsrus.com.au This one still has a few minor issues that are being fixed: http://www.elizabethsbookshop.com.au -- Kay Smoljak

[WSG] Re: Headings within ul Navigation

2005-05-04 Thread Ned Collyer
e.g. ul lih2Item/h2/li lih2Item/h2/li lih2Item/h2/li lih2Item/h2 ul lih3Sub Item/h3/li lih3Sub Item/h3/li lih3Sub Item/h3/li /ul /li lih2Item/h2/li lih2Item/h2/li /ul Is the