Re: [WSG] IE in Virtual PC

2005-08-21 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On 20 Aug 2005, at 7:48 AM, Chris Kennon wrote: Would some knowledgeable participant enlighten on the behavior of IE in Virtual PC for the MAC? Respectfully, C PS I hope my questions are not banal, due to the absences of replies, I'm beginning to feel like the carrier of something

[WSG] javascript and no script -- best practices

2005-08-21 Thread dwain alford
thanks for the citehelp/cite with my last question. now i have a page with javascript opening a new window from a link. the reason for this is that i want to allow the visitor to close the window and still be at the site from whence they came. my problem and question is. what is the best

Re: [WSG] javascript and no script -- best practices

2005-08-21 Thread Lea de Groot
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 04:35:50 -0500, dwain alford wrote: here's the script: a href=JavaScript: void(0) onclick=window.open('pagename.htm', '_blank', 'optionlist')link text/a E! Not a good method, that. How about: a href=/dir/to/target.html onclick=return !window.open(this.href,

RE: [WSG] javascript and no script -- best practices

2005-08-21 Thread Edward Clarke
There's an article for accessible popups over at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/popuplinks/ The code you posted has some issues that will need to be dealt with. thanks for the citehelp/cite with my last question. now i have a page with javascript opening a new window from a link.

Re: [WSG] javascript and no script -- best practices

2005-08-21 Thread dwain alford
Lea de Groot wrote: How about: a href=/dir/to/target.html onclick=return !window.open(this.href, 'awindow', 'optionlist');link text/a This well work nicely if JS is off :) I think the main 'debatable point' is whether or not negating the window.open works. (written from memory - needs

Re: [WSG] javascript and no script -- best practices

2005-08-21 Thread Lea de Groot
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 05:04:15 -0500, dwain alford wrote: thanks lea for your quick response. do i insert the js (all of it) as written with the this.href being the page i want to go to? No, no - thats the whole 'trick' to this. You only type the real url (in my example '/dir/to/target.html')

[WSG] stink emails

2005-08-21 Thread dwain alford
well i thought it would never happen to me, but someone hijacked my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account and is sending out a virus. dwain -- Dwain Alford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alforddesigngroup.com The Teacher answered: There is no sin. 'The Gospel of Mary of Magdala'

Re: [WSG] web accessibility toolbar

2005-08-21 Thread designer
Hi Joshua, et al, Let me put it the other way around: A lot of designers love to use pixels for font sizing. AFAIK, the only problem with it is that users can't resize text in IE. If they could, that would be great. With tools such as this, they can. So what I mean is : should it be that we

Re: [WSG] javascript and no script -- best practices

2005-08-21 Thread dwain alford
Lea de Groot wrote: On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 05:04:15 -0500, dwain alford wrote: thanks lea for your quick response. do i insert the js (all of it) as written with the this.href being the page i want to go to? No, no - thats the whole 'trick' to this. You only type the real url (in my example

THREAD CLOSED Re: [WSG] stink emails

2005-08-21 Thread Lea de Groot
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 05:33:02 -0500, dwain alford wrote: well i thought it would never happen to me, but someone hijacked my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account and is sending out a virus. If you wish to discuss this please do so offlist. warmly, Lea ~ with concerned looks in Dwain's direction -- Lea

Re: [WSG] web accessibility toolbar

2005-08-21 Thread Joshua Street
On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 11:35 +0100, designer wrote: Hi Joshua, et al, Let me put it the other way around: A lot of designers love to use pixels for font sizing. AFAIK, the only problem with it is that users can't resize text in IE. If they could, that would be great. With tools such as

Re: THREAD CLOSED Re: [WSG] stink emails

2005-08-21 Thread dwain alford
Lea de Groot wrote: On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 05:33:02 -0500, dwain alford wrote: well i thought it would never happen to me, but someone hijacked my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account and is sending out a virus. If you wish to discuss this please do so offlist. warmly, Lea ~ with concerned looks in

Re: [WSG] web accessibility toolbar

2005-08-21 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 21/08/05, Joshua Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we love to use pixels for font sizing because it has any intrinsic advantage, or simply because we'd rather be designing for print? ... Print? Is print in pixels? Never heard that. My screen is measured in pixels, I view the web on my

Re: [WSG] web accessibility toolbar

2005-08-21 Thread Felix Miata
Rimantas Liubertas wrote: Why not? In terms of CSS pixels are relative units, just like em and ex. Just to be sure we understand, here's the definition, current and probably future: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/syndata.html#length-units

Re: [WSG] web accessibility toolbar

2005-08-21 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 21/08/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything on a web page is relative to the viewing device, and so px is not relative to anything relevant in the text sizing context. At any given resolution, px is no less absolute or fixed than cm, in, or pt, all of which cannot be resized

Re: [WSG] IE in Virtual PC

2005-08-21 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, Does IE in Virtual PC display the same quirks as the XP, 2000 version of IE? I'm a MAC OS user, but would like to test CSS in IE before going to Browser CAM. Hope this clarifies :) C PS The wit of this list is just a sharp as the knowledge. On Aug 21, 2005, at 12:37 AM, Nick

Re: [WSG] IE in Virtual PC

2005-08-21 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 21 Aug 2005, at 9:31 pm, Chris Kennon wrote: Does IE in Virtual PC display the same quirks as the XP, 2000 version of IE? I'm a MAC OS user, but would like to test CSS in IE before going to Browser CAM. Inside Virtual PC, you create virtual machines that run the 'real' Win OS of your

Re: [WSG] javascript and no script -- best practices

2005-08-21 Thread dwain alford
Lea de Groot wrote: I would put: a href=pagename.htm onclick=return !window.open(this.href, 'awindow', 'optionlist');link text/a this works ok, terrific would be if the window that opened allowed you to maximize it or opened maximized with scroll bars. the page with this code is up at:

Re: [WSG] IE in Virtual PC

2005-08-21 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On 21 Aug 2005, at 10:31 PM, Chris Kennon wrote: Does IE in Virtual PC display the same quirks as the XP, 2000 version of IE? I'm a MAC OS user, but would like to test CSS in IE before going to Browser CAM. Hope this clarifies :) C PS The wit of this list is just a sharp as the

Re: [WSG] javascript and no script -- best practices

2005-08-21 Thread dwain alford
Lea de Groot wrote: I would put: a href=pagename.htm onclick=return !window.open(this.href, 'awindow', 'optionlist');link text/a this means that folks without javascript effectively get: a href=pagename.htmlink text/a and people with js get the popup. and because we return a false when the

Re: [WSG] IE in Virtual PC

2005-08-21 Thread Chris Kennon
On Aug 21, 2005, at 5:47 AM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: It displays web sites, with the same quirks, bugs and stupidities, same risks in browsing the web, same everything. Does this statement imply the machine hosting Virtual PC and IE becomes vulnerable to malicious software? [1] I

Re: [WSG] javascript and no script -- best practices

2005-08-21 Thread Jan Brasna
a href=pagename.htm onclick=return !window.open(this.href, 'awindow', 'optionlist');link text/a thanks for the snippet. the window opens, but it is small and does not offer a maximization setting or scroll bars. what do i need to add to the code for the window to open maximized or be able

Re: [WSG] IE in Virtual PC

2005-08-21 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, It was a compliment :) How does using VPC, compare to just using Browser Cam? Does using VPC provide a better control for testing pages in IE, justifying the expense, than s justifying the expense? On Aug 21, 2005, at 6:25 AM, Nick Gleitzman wrote: Thanks for the compliment, Chris

Re: [WSG] IE in Virtual PC

2005-08-21 Thread Jan Brasna
Does this statement imply the machine hosting Virtual PC and IE becomes vulnerable to malicious software? No. Only the guest OS (WXP, W2K) is vulnerable. It runs in sandbox. no reason to suspect anything will be different Colors are different (due to the matter of Mac's different gamma).

Re: [WSG] javascript and no script -- best practices

2005-08-21 Thread dwain alford
Jan Brasna wrote: a href=pagename.htm onclick=return !window.open(this.href, 'awindow', 'optionlist');link text/a thanks for the snippet. the window opens, but it is small and does not offer a maximization setting or scroll bars. what do i need to add to the code for the window to open

[WSG] tabbing through links

2005-08-21 Thread dwain alford
again, thanks to all for the responses to the new page opener script. i feel like columbo, for those familiar with him, but i've got just one more question. i would like for visitors, with and without scripting enabled, to be able to tab through the links on the page. how would i accomplish

Re: [WSG] tabbing through links

2005-08-21 Thread Lea de Groot
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 15:51:05 -0500, dwain alford wrote: i would like for visitors, with and without scripting enabled, to be able to tab through the links on the page. how would i accomplish this? i did a google and didn't have much luck. the only item i found, i didn't understand how to

Re: [WSG] IE in Virtual PC

2005-08-21 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On 22 Aug 2005, at 12:18 AM, Jan Brasna wrote: Does this statement imply the machine hosting Virtual PC and IE becomes vulnerable to malicious software? No. Only the guest OS (WXP, W2K) is vulnerable. It runs in sandbox. no reason to suspect anything will be different Colors are

Re: [WSG] tabbing through links

2005-08-21 Thread Bruce
Tabbing of course happans automatically. However, on a three column layout I added a top hidden nav that showed on focus that linked to each column so the visitor could choose the column to tab down. Is this what you mean? If so, unless someone here has the info at hand I will have to look it up.

Re: [WSG] tabbing through links

2005-08-21 Thread dwain alford
Bruce wrote: Tabbing of course happans automatically. However, on a three column layout I added a top hidden nav that showed on focus that linked to each column so the visitor could choose the column to tab down. Is this what you mean? If so, unless someone here has the info at hand I will have

Re: [WSG] tabbing through links

2005-08-21 Thread Bruce
What I did was have a hidden menu at page top. When a user tabbed it showed up (onfocus), and gave a link to top of each column. I'm having trouble finding it now...but above gives the idea Bruce Prochnau BKDesign Solutions - Original Message - From: dwain alford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [WSG] tabbing through links

2005-08-21 Thread Bruce
I see what you mean, it is hard to find! I did a takeoff of this page using three links to top of each column: http://www.usability.com.au/resources/menus-links.cfm At top of page they have links that you can tab to, and then go to that part to tab down. #Skip to area navigation # Skip to

Re: [WSG] web accessibility toolbar

2005-08-21 Thread Steven . Faulkner
Hi designer As the person who developed the web accessibility toolbar (WAT) I do not recommend the use of its magnify function as a way to overcome the pixel issue in internet explorer. This function is simply intended to give an idea to designers/developers of how some people may view a web

Re: [WSG] tabbing through links

2005-08-21 Thread Andy Kirkwood | Motive
Watch out for IE keyboard navigation bug. Depending on your method for setting the destination anchor, things can go a little awry. For details, see: http://www.motive.co.nz/glossary/anchor.php Cheers, -- Andy Kirkwood | Creative Director Motive | web.design.integrity

Re: [WSG] tabbing through links

2005-08-21 Thread Steven . Faulkner
Also See Keyboard Navigation and Internet Explorer : http://juicystudio.com/article/ie-keyboard-navigation.php with regards Steven Faulkner Web Accessibility Consultant National Information Library Service (NILS) 454 Glenferrie Road Kooyong Victoria 3144 Phone: (613) 9864 9281 Fax: (613)

Re: [WSG] tabbing through links

2005-08-21 Thread dwain alford
Andy Kirkwood | Motive wrote: Watch out for IE keyboard navigation bug. Depending on your method for setting the destination anchor, things can go a little awry. For details, see: http://www.motive.co.nz/glossary/anchor.php Cheers, thanks for the heads up. got it bookmarked for later

Re: [WSG] tabbing through links

2005-08-21 Thread dwain alford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also See Keyboard Navigation and Internet Explorer : http://juicystudio.com/article/ie-keyboard-navigation.php thanks steven. this is really what i had in mind when i initially asked the question; the tab index method. all seems to be fine in ie6/pc. if you have a

Re: [WSG] tabbing through links

2005-08-21 Thread Al Sparber
From: Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] tabbing through links I see what you mean, it is hard to find! I did a takeoff of this page using three links to top of each column:

RE: [WSG] IFrame Question

2005-08-21 Thread Geoff Pack
What IFrame? There is no IFrame in your page. But there are a few ways to do what you want: 1. You can use javascript to change the image source. 2. You can put both images in the page in separate divs and hide one - then use a show/hide script to swap the divs over. 3. You can put the images

[WSG] Center aligning links with a specified height

2005-08-21 Thread Adam Burmister \(DSL AK\)
Hi everybody, Long time reader - first time poster here. I've currently got a doozie that I've been struggling with for hours. The final product looks simple enough, but I can't for the life of me get it - help me WSG, you're my only hope. What I want is a center aligned list (UL LI's) of links