Re: [WSG] webpatterns and patternquiz

2005-12-20 Thread John Allsopp
Richard, I think you're right on both counts... Yes, in order for this to be effective the more professionals who contribute, the better it will be. And yes, absolutely, it's not about stating this is the ONLY way you can do this but presenting a set of choices. I look forward to seeing

[WSG] Swf - google

2005-12-20 Thread Elton Okada
I have a swf file in my page.Google will not index. I can print the content of swf in a div with display:none.Is it a good practice ? Does anyone have a better idea ?This is the url: http://www.victoriabratberg.com/betaThanks and sorry

[WSG] Re: Swf - google

2005-12-20 Thread felix . zapata
Hi, if you put some textlinks to other parts of the site in your home page under or over the flash, google will index it. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some

Re: [WSG] Swf - google

2005-12-20 Thread Martin Heiden
Elton, on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 at 15:33 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: I have a swf file in my page. Google will not index. I can print the content of swf in a div with display:none. Is it a good practice ? Does anyone have a better idea ? Yep! Use standards and some proprietary

Re: [WSG] Swf - google

2005-12-20 Thread Ric Raftis
Put a sitemap on your index page down the bottom so that Google et al can follow the html links. Validate your page also. You are using an xhtml doctype and yet have upper case tags on your page. Regards, Ric Elton Okada wrote: I have a swf file in my page. Google will not index. I can

Re: [WSG] Swf - google

2005-12-20 Thread Elton Okada
Thanks !!!RegardsEltonOn 12/20/05, Martin Heiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elton,on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 at 15:33 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: I have a swf file in my page. Google will not index. I can print the content of swf in a div with display:none. Is it a good practice ? Does

Re: [WSG] Swf - google

2005-12-20 Thread Elton Okada
Thanks Ric !! Regards Elton On 12/20/05, Ric Raftis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put a sitemap on your index page down the bottom so that Google et alcan follow the html links.Validate your page also.You are using an xhtml doctype and yet have upper case tags on your page.Regards,RicElton Okada

Re: [WSG] Swf - google

2005-12-20 Thread Elton Okada
What about this:http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/03/31/proper-flash-embedding-flashobject-best-practices/Regards EltonOn 12/20/05, Ric Raftis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put a sitemap on your index page down the bottom so that Google et alcan follow the html links.Validate your page also.You are using

[WSG] search box(text area) form width

2005-12-20 Thread kvnmcwebn
this might be a bit of dumb question anyideas on how to get this keyword search box any narrower in ie? something like it is in firefox http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/final6.htm http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/index3.css (ie code for search box at bottom of stylesheet) -best kvnmcwebn

RE: [WSG] Site Critic

2005-12-20 Thread Boteler, Cheree
Hi everyone: I apologize for sending this site critic too early, I definitely jumped the gun asking for a critic. I will be making a bunch of changes and make sure to validate all my code before I ask for a site critic in the future. Thank you so much to those of you who, very graciously, gave

[WSG] css print help

2005-12-20 Thread Greg Morphis
http://home.alltel.net/omen/schedule.htm Looks great until you try to print in landscape. Can someone please help me with adjusting the css so that the print preview looks the same as it does in the browser. We're on a IE standard intranet.. sucks I know.. but I appreciate your help in advance.

RE: [WSG] Site Critic

2005-12-20 Thread Dennis Lapcewich
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2005-12-20 Thread Susannah_Marks
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RE: [WSG] Dropped DIV dilemma

2005-12-20 Thread Paul Noone
Thanks Samuel. I'd actually considered the fixes quite minimal. Apart from a couple of IE hacks, the only 'fix' in place is the mighty clearfix class for float clearing. If you have any suggestions on how the CSS can be minimised I'd be very grateful if you'd share them. Almost everything I know

Re: [WSG] Dropped DIV dilemma

2005-12-20 Thread Samuel Richardson
I've found the majority of IE hacks can be avoided by nesting padded boxes inside boxes with widths rather then trying to combine them, it does create extra markup but it is easier to read and understand if you or someone else has to make changes later. The only IE bug I seem to run into

[WSG] Setting Up Font Sizes

2005-12-20 Thread Samuel Richardson
What's the best, cross-browser supported way to setup font sizes in CSS documents? I've been using body { font-size .8em; } then p { font-size : 90%; (adjust per design to get the correct sizes etc) } the problem I've found with this is that I'll sometimes set a 90% on a td element (or

Re: [WSG] search box(text area) form width

2005-12-20 Thread Terrence Wood
On 21 Dec 2005, at 7:47 AM, kvnmcwebn wrote: how to get this keyword search box any narrower in ie? .searchbox input{ width: 10em; /* desired width */ } kind regards Terrence Wood. ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Setting Up Font Sizes

2005-12-20 Thread Terrence Wood
On 21 Dec 2005, at 11:57 AM, Samuel Richardson wrote: What's the best, cross-browser supported way to setup font sizes in CSS documents? http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=FontSize kind regards Terrence Wood. ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Setting Up Font Sizes

2005-12-20 Thread Paula Petrik
I have had good luck with the Owen Briggs Method across browsers-- just watch out for the cascade: http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/typography/index.html Paula Paula Petrik Professor Department of History Art History Associate Director Center for History New Media

RE: [WSG] Setting Up Font Sizes

2005-12-20 Thread Paul Noone
So setting the font size for the html element to 100.01% and then adjusting it in the body (or elsewhere) is no longer recommended? I tried to find fault with Owen Briggs' Text Sizing http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/box_lesson/font/index.html article which uses a simple declaration of

Re: [WSG] Setting Up Font Sizes

2005-12-20 Thread Ric Raftis
Where did you get that from in that article? Setting the font size to 100% and then setting individual elements to ems is how I do all my pages. As far as I know it is the recommended method so users have control of their own viewport. Regards, Ric Paul Noone wrote: So setting the font

RE: [WSG] Setting Up Font Sizes

2005-12-20 Thread Paul Noone
Where I got it from was the supplied stylesheet. The comments within also explain why 76% was chosen as a figure. The 100.01% size for html or body elements was/is a much practiced method which was expounded on this very list not so long ago. Is it just me or is there some underlying agression

Re: [WSG] Setting Up Font Sizes

2005-12-20 Thread Nick Cowie
SamuelYou wrote: body { font-size .8em; } p { font-size : 90%; (adjust per design to get the correct sizes etc)}That is asking for trouble, you really need to watch out for the cascade. Get a p inside a p, an li inside an li or a li inside a p and suddenly instead of being 12px text ( 16px -

Re: [WSG] Setting Up Font Sizes

2005-12-20 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Nick Cowie wrote: Samuel You wrote: body { font-size .8em; } p { font-size : 90%; (adjust per design to get the correct sizes etc) } That is asking for trouble, you really need to watch out for the cascade. Get a p inside a p, It's very rare that p elements would be nested like that and

Re: [WSG] Setting Up Font Sizes

2005-12-20 Thread Ric Raftis
Not from me Paul. If my msg came across that way, please accept my apologies. It was not intended. Regards, Ric Paul Noone wrote: Is it just me or is there some underlying agression on this list of late? ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Setting Up Font Sizes

2005-12-20 Thread Felix Miata
Paul Noone wrote: Ric Raftis wrote: Paul Noone wrote: So setting the font size for the html element to 100.01% and then adjusting it in the body (or elsewhere) is no longer recommended I tried to find fault with Owen Briggs' Text Sizing

Re: [WSG] Setting Up Font Sizes

2005-12-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Samuel Richardson wrote: What's the best, cross-browser supported way to setup font sizes in CSS documents? Watch out for this one... http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_13.html ...and this one... http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_03_04.html regards Georg --

Re: [WSG] Setting Up Font Sizes

2005-12-20 Thread Felix Miata
Lachlan Hunt wrote: body { font-size: small; } is generally acceptable and is approximately the same as 80% of the Definitely not acceptable to me for content paragraphs. :-( default font-size. Actually whether small matches 80% or not depends on browsers and rounding and the default size

Re: [WSG] Setting Up Font Sizes

2005-12-20 Thread Peter J. Farrell
Felix Miata wrote: Lachlan Hunt wrote: body { font-size: small; } is generally acceptable and is approximately the same as 80% of the Definitely not acceptable to me for content paragraphs. :-( I have to agree with Felix here as well. In the end, I have to abide my clients wishes