Re: [WSG] Page veiwing

2006-02-26 Thread SunUp
If you don't mind me asking, what are your reasons for making this decision? Purely based on font size. ... and in response to this: just because you use higher resolutions doesn't mean you have smaller text... ... *nod* I know. I have messed with that several times. It all ends up looking most

[WSG] Positioning a graphic

2006-02-26 Thread Angus at InfoForce Services
I appologize if this is off topic. The validator does not like float: center;. What is the correct way to center an image? IE6 shows a centered Scottish flag which I would like and Firefox 1.5 does not. HTML: http://infoforce-services.com/personal/mackinnon_namehistory.php CSS:

Re: [WSG] Positioning a graphic

2006-02-26 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Angus at InfoForce Services wrote: I appologize if this is off topic. The validator does not like float: center;. That's because the value is undefined for the 'float' property. What is the correct way to center an image? IE6 shows a centered Scottish flag which I would like and Firefox 1.5

[WSG] Converting the heathen: never again

2006-02-26 Thread SunUp
Hi folks, I hereby publicly declare that my days of complaining to website authors that I cannot view their site at 800x600, and then opening my big mouth about other dubious issues I notice on their site, are now over. I dropped a line to my ISP (ostensibly to enquire about my account) and

Re: [WSG] Converting the heathen: never again

2006-02-26 Thread Lea de Groot
On 27/02/2006, at 1:16 PM, SunUp wrote: I will now be a good little backyard hobbyist web-designer as they called me (actually, it's my day job too), and never mention standards again. completely gobstopped These guys are professional service providers? If the tone of the message was as bad

Re: [WSG] Converting the heathen: never again

2006-02-26 Thread Lachlan Hunt
SunUp wrote: When I could not find what I was looking for I was told: I recommend that this issue in this case has not been a usability issue but instead has been a logic issue on the clients side, and I would recommend that you re-attend year 10-12 english classes in order to know this in

Re: [WSG] Page veiwing

2006-02-26 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/02/26 21:36 SunUp apparently typed: Lachlan Hunt wrote Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:34:29 -0800: If you don't mind me asking, what are your reasons for making this decision? Purely based on font size. ... and in response to this: Steve Olive Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:20:03 -0800 wrote: ...just

Re: [WSG] Converting the heathen: never again

2006-02-26 Thread Christian Montoya
On 2/26/06, SunUp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I hereby publicly declare that my days of complaining to website authors that I cannot view their site at 800x600, and then opening my big mouth about other dubious issues I notice on their site, are now over. Ah, but when annoying little

Re: [WSG] Converting the heathen: never again

2006-02-26 Thread Ray Cauchi
Hi there http://www.ilisys.com.au/ Get a new ISP dudedon't just stand there and break Ray At 02:16 PM 27/02/2006, you wrote: Hi folks, I hereby publicly declare that my days of complaining to website authors that I cannot view their site at 800x600, and then opening my big mouth about

Re: [WSG] Converting the heathen: never again

2006-02-26 Thread Ben Buchanan
Hi, I hereby publicly declare that my days of complaining to website authors that I cannot view their site at 800x600, and then opening my big mouth about other dubious issues I notice on their site, are now over. [snip] I'm astonished at the tone - although not especially surprised by the

Re: [WSG] Converting the heathen: never again

2006-02-26 Thread Geoff Deering
Christian Montoya wrote: On 2/26/06, SunUp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I hereby publicly declare that my days of complaining to website authors that I cannot view their site at 800x600, and then opening my big mouth about other dubious issues I notice on their site, are now over.

Re: [WSG] Converting the heathen: never again

2006-02-26 Thread Justin Owens
I dropped a line to my ISP (ostensibly to enquire about my account) and mentioned I could not find certain information on their website (and suggested it might be a usability issue), that the horizontal scrolling was giving me RSI (joke), commented on their massive use of javascript in the

Re: [WSG] Converting the heathen: never again

2006-02-26 Thread Serdar Kılıç
Well at least they're not using tables for layout :-) On 27/02/06, SunUp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I hereby publicly declare that my days of complaining to website authors that I cannot view their site at 800x600, and then opening my big mouth about other dubious issues I notice on

Re: [WSG] Converting the heathen: never again

2006-02-26 Thread Paul Dwyer
I have been courting disaster with a potential client on these points exactly. I am risking losing a potentially valuable contract with my standardista (and I am pretty moderate) standpoint. Heck, I'd just like to get their sites to validate, but they are old-skool asp guys who learned all there

Re: [WSG] Converting the heathen: never again

2006-02-26 Thread Ben Buchanan
I think you have come across a key lesson for the standards community: techies know about standards, they are not ignorant, they just have their own reasons (however lame) for not following them. ...which is why they can be a tough group to pitch to. They can be far more set in their ways than

Re: [WSG] Converting the heathen: never again

2006-02-26 Thread Lea de Groot
On 27/02/2006, at 4:08 PM, Ben Buchanan wrote: Not to mention the fact that the people who implemented those bohemoths can't always separate standards advice from personal vilification - no matter how polite, rational, independently verfiable... I think its important to understand that, for

Re: [WSG] Converting the heathen: never again

2006-02-26 Thread Geoff Deering
Lea de Groot wrote: On 27/02/2006, at 4:08 PM, Ben Buchanan wrote: Not to mention the fact that the people who implemented those bohemoths can't always separate standards advice from personal vilification - no matter how polite, rational, independently verfiable... I think its important

Re: [WSG] Converting the heathen: never again

2006-02-26 Thread Al Sparber
SunUp wrote: Hi folks, My own fault, I asked for it, obviously. I will now be a good little backyard hobbyist web-designer as they called me (actually, it's my day job too), and never mention standards again. I don't think you need to go back to 10th grade, but - for your own sake - you

RE: [WSG] Converting the heathen: never again

2006-02-26 Thread Glen Wallis
Any business owner with half a brain would march that person straight out the door. Not only would I forward the offending email to management with a polite assurance that I had not YET made the companies name public, but I would follow it up with all the messages of outrage and disgust that