[WSG] USERS - was [Why is u deprecated?]

2008-03-31 Thread Designer
Keryx Web wrote: Underlines on paper have no usability impact, since you cant click on it! Underlines on web pages have a usability impact, since people think they are clickable links. Just out of interest, I did a site map recently and all the links were red and underlined, at least on

Re: [WSG] USERS - was [Why is u deprecated?]

2008-03-31 Thread Matthew Pennell
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what I find time and time again. Contrary to some of the comments l hear on this list, my experience is such that most computer users haven't got the first clue about how to use their machines, even after ten years .

Re: [WSG] USERS - was [Why is u deprecated?]

2008-03-31 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Of course, this all also depends on the target audience of your site. If it's something aimed at the middle-/upper-class 11-16 market, for instance, you can start to assume a higher IT literacy level. As with anything, absolutely everything is relative :) P -- Patrick H. Lauke

Re: [WSG] USERS - was [Why is u deprecated?]

2008-03-31 Thread Roberto Castaldo
Hi all Patrick: Of course, this all also depends on the target audience of your site. Roberto: Completely agree on that. Users are different, their habits are different, their needs are different. As an IT teacher, I am used to face 14-20 yo guys, and for most of them underlined text is

Re: [WSG] a target=” blank” not part of xhtml

2008-03-31 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
I strongly recommend you disable this feature of windows on any systems you set up for the less computer literate because I can tell you form experience with novice users that its a very bad feature. David Dorward wrote: On 28 Mar 2008, at 05:48, Jixor - Stephen I wrote: Yes but you choose

Re: [WSG] USERS - was [Why is u deprecated?]

2008-03-31 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Quoting Roberto Castaldo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: But our challenge (for all of us who make the Web) is to find out and apply rules which can be useful for the largest majority of users, and we must do it for the Web, not for other media; any Web user should be (or become) used to reasonable Web

Re: [WSG] USERS - was [Why is u deprecated?]

2008-03-31 Thread Michael Horowitz
I find most do. I think there is a wide disparity depending on who you work with. Over time we are going to move to a much more educated group of users. Students coming out of college now are highly computer literate and web savvy. The next generation of users growing up using myspace and

Re: [WSG] USERS - was [Why is u deprecated?]

2008-03-31 Thread Andrew Maben
On Mar 31, 2008, at 7:04 AM, Roberto Castaldo wrote: If you look at an underlined text, what is your very first idea about it?, and they ALL answered: That's a really important text!!! Strictly in the context of text, underlined text is a typographical relative of the double-space

Re: [WSG] USERS - was [Why is u deprecated?]

2008-03-31 Thread Stuart Foulstone
While yet another 50+ age group, who invented the Internet and the World Wide Web, continue to set the standards which stop it descending into chaos. On Mon, March 31, 2008 3:39 pm, Michael Horowitz wrote: I find most do. I think there is a wide disparity depending on who you work with.

Standards slipping (was RE: [WSG] USERS - was [Why is u deprecated?]

2008-03-31 Thread Andrew Boyd
Stuart, I would have to add ..and watch those standards disregarded by popular Open Source and commercial applications. For an interesting tale of standards and Standards slipping, please see http://realtech.burningbird.net/semweb/wordpress-25-releases/ - the comment discussion taking place

Re: Standards slipping (was RE: [WSG] USERS - was [Why is u deprecated?]

2008-03-31 Thread James Ellis
Hi I read through that post and the available comments and I'd say it's a bit pedantic of the author to go on about a subset of an application and link that to the end of XHTML and worse. Especially one that seems to be third party and incorporated into WP. The author also confuses the