Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 CSS3 - Is it worth using right now?

2008-05-13 Thread David Dorward
On 13 May 2008, at 01:36, Nikita The Spider The Spider wrote: One big impediment to using XHTML 1.1 is that it must be sent with the application/xhtml+xml media type which makes IE6 choke. ... and IE7 and IE8. Adding support for XHTML hasn't been a priority for Microsoft (presumably

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 CSS3 - Is it worth using right now?

2008-05-13 Thread Thomas Thomassen
If you do content negotiation to send html/text and XHTML 1.0 to IE and application/xhtml+xml XHTML to anyone else then you're effectivly using XHTML 1.0 html/text as you'd never be able to make use of the modular XML nature of XHTML 1.1. - Original Message - From: Nikita The Spider

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 CSS3 - Is it worth using right now?

2008-05-13 Thread Thomas Thomassen
You can still do that with XHTML 1.0 sent as html/text. I've done that several times when I've made desktop gadgets to extract data from my site. The parsers doesn't care if the page is sent as html/text instead of xml/text. I don't see any point of using XHTML 1.1 unless you use it's modular

RE: [WSG] Embed a flash file 100%

2008-05-13 Thread Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd
Hi Laert, Try this div id=flashcontent strongYou need to upgrade your Flash Player/strong This is replaced by the Flash content. Place your alternate content here and users without the Flash plugin or with Javascript

Re: [WSG] Embed a flash file 100%

2008-05-13 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
nonsense! You needn't use JS for this as it can be done without JS. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/ Joe On May 13, 2008, at 08:55, Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd wrote: Hi Laert, Try this div id=flashcontent strongYou need to upgrade your Flash

Re: [WSG] Embed a flash file 100%

2008-05-13 Thread jay
From: Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 22:58:03 -0300 Subject: Re: [WSG] Embed a flash file 100% I´ve already set the height to 100%. The flash file is 778 x 560 px I can´t find out why that white area is showing on the top. If you make the height:100% then it is 100% of

[WSG] a list apart expired

2008-05-13 Thread Francisco Antunes
Can someone who know Zeldman let him know that the domain is expired: http://www.alistapart.com/ Cheers, Francisco. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

[WSG] help with menu positioning

2008-05-13 Thread tee
My brain isn't working. I thought I have the answer but it's not working :-( http://lotusseedsdesign.com/menu.html start from the second menu, the hover goes off , but actually the position for the hover state is correct. I do not understand why the link's position-x got it wrong starts

Re: [WSG] a list apart expired

2008-05-13 Thread Matthew Pennell
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Francisco Antunes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone who know Zeldman let him know that the domain is expired: http://www.alistapart.com/ He's asleep at the moment. :) Do Happy Cog 'run' Magnolia as well? That lapsed too, I seem to remember. -- -

Re: [WSG] a list apart expired

2008-05-13 Thread Mark Harris
Matthew Pennell wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Francisco Antunes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone who know Zeldman let him know that the domain is expired: http://www.alistapart.com/ He's asleep at the moment. :) Do Happy Cog 'run' Magnolia as well? That lapsed too, I seem to

Re: [WSG] a list apart expired

2008-05-13 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
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Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 CSS3 - Is it worth using right now?

2008-05-13 Thread Nikita The Spider The Spider
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:57 PM, XStandard Vlad Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HTH wrote: ...server has to do content negotiation in order to send text/html with one doctype (HTML or XHTML 1.0) to IE users and application/xhtml+xml/XHTML 1.1 to everyone else. That means you're

Re: [WSG] a list apart expired

2008-05-13 Thread Andrew Boyd
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not from here it hasn't whois results: Domain Name: ALISTAPART.COM Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC. Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com Name Server:

Re: [WSG] help with menu positioning

2008-05-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: My brain isn't working. I thought I have the answer but it's not working :-( http://lotusseedsdesign.com/menu.html Missing base-position... #menu li a {background-position: left top;} Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [WSG] Definition lists for testimonials

2008-05-13 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 5 May 2008, at 19:04, Thierry Koblentz wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Lecoat Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:26 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Definition lists for testimonials Hi, I need to mark up a

Re: [WSG] Embed a flash file 100%

2008-05-13 Thread Laert Jansen
the problem isn´t the color of that areais that that area shouldn´t exist..I left it white on purpose just to show the area apart from the rest... On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Andrew Maben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 12, 2008, at 9:58 PM, Laert Jansen wrote: I can´t

Re: [WSG] Definition lists for testimonials

2008-05-13 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
how about using the blockquote cite attribute? http://brainstormsandraves.com/articles/semantics/structure/ They mention using cite for a url (or email link) and title for the details. seems to be compliant to me... On May 13, 2008, at 16:31, Rick Lecoat wrote: On 5 May 2008, at

Re: [WSG] Definition lists for testimonials

2008-05-13 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 13 May 2008, at 17:56, Joseph Ortenzi wrote: how about using the blockquote cite attribute? http://brainstormsandraves.com/articles/semantics/structure/ They mention using cite for a url (or email link) and title for the details. seems to be compliant to me... Hi Joseph; Thanks

Re: [WSG] Embed a flash file 100%

2008-05-13 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 13 May 2008, at 11:39, jay wrote: If you make the height:100% then it is 100% of the parent - since your flash file does not stretch to the that height the background shows which you have declared as white: var so = new SWFObject(main.swf, main, 100%, 100%, 8, #ff); -- You

Re: [WSG] Definition lists for testimonials

2008-05-13 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 13 May 2008, at 19:48, Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: Don't forget the cite element too. If a source isn't online you wouldn't use the cite attribute, but the element will still help with proper attribution. Mike, you're bang on the money: I had indeed completely forgotten about the

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 CSS3 - Is it worth using right now?

2008-05-13 Thread dwain
where is it and is it incorporated into firefox yet? dwain On 5/12/08, Dean Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 12, 2008, at 11:13 PM, dwain wrote: and if you are wanting valid css then css3 will throw up errors in the w3c css validator. Not if you use the CSS level 3 validator

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 CSS3 - Is it worth using right now?

2008-05-13 Thread Nikita The Spider The Spider
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:17 PM, XStandard Vlad Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Nikita, Are you talking about putting an HTML doctype on XHTML 1.1-formatted code Yes, but normally you would put XHTML 1.1 markup into an template written for a different DOCTYPE as shown in this

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 CSS3 - Is it worth using right now?

2008-05-13 Thread Dean Matthews
On May 13, 2008, at 3:44 PM, dwain wrote: where is it and is it incorporated into firefox yet? dwain On 5/12/08, Dean Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 12, 2008, at 11:13 PM, dwain wrote: and if you are wanting valid css then css3 will throw up errors in the w3c css validator.

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 CSS3 - Is it worth using right now?

2008-05-13 Thread dwain
thanks for the info. cheers, dwain On 5/13/08, Dean Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 13, 2008, at 3:44 PM, dwain wrote: where is it and is it incorporated into firefox yet? dwain On 5/12/08, Dean Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 12, 2008, at 11:13 PM, dwain wrote:

[WSG] Large Background Images

2008-05-13 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, The use of large backgrounds has become more common given expanding bandwidth. However standards are still a concern, what perils of wisdom for using a full-page BG can the list cultivate? Chris *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 CSS3 - Is it worth using right now?

2008-05-13 Thread James Pickering
From time to time over the past several years I have served web pages as XHTML 1.0 with content (MIME) type text/html to IE Browsers and with content (MIME) type application/xhtml+xml to Browsers that recognize that content type -- via Content Negotiation. My current Home Page --

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 CSS3 - Is it worth using right now?

2008-05-13 Thread XStandard
Nikita wrote: the example you provided isn't valid XHTML. I think you may have misunderstood. The example in this screen shot: http://xstandard.com/94E7EECB-E7CF-4122-A6AF-8F817AA53C78/html-layout-xhtml-content.gif .. shows how to embed XHTML 1.1 content into an HTML 4.01 Transitional page

Re: [WSG] Large Background Images

2008-05-13 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hi Chris, bandwidth. However standards are still a concern, what perils of wisdom for using a full-page BG can the list cultivate? Hard on those with a slow connection, but I cannot foresee another issue unless the background is a big animated GIF ;-) You can offer a removal tool for

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 CSS3 - Is it worth using right now?

2008-05-13 Thread Nikita The Spider The Spider
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:02 PM, XStandard Vlad Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikita wrote: the META tag would have to end in a / and then it wouldn't be valid HTML anymore. Sure it would. It may not be in the spec but it's a de facto standard. Even the W3C validator will accept

Re: [WSG] help with menu positioning

2008-05-13 Thread tee
On May 13, 2008, at 7:39 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: tee wrote: My brain isn't working. I thought I have the answer but it's not working :-( http://lotusseedsdesign.com/menu.html Missing base-position... #menu li a {background-position: left top;} Georg Georg, thanks for the

Re: [WSG] Definition lists for testimonials

2008-05-13 Thread Jason Ray
The W3C has an example of the use of the cite and quote elements here: http://www.w3.org/People/mimasa/test/xhtml2/spec-examples/mod-text/cite-ex01.xhtml Or you can read all about quotations here: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.2 You could avoid the blockquote and use a

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 CSS3 - Is it worth using right now?

2008-05-13 Thread XStandard
Nikita wrote: I encourage you to try that with the W3C validator. You will not get the result you expect. Comes back as valid HTML, as I expected. The validator did flag / as warnings which it did not a few years back when the example was originally created. But W3C's validator warning

Re: [WSG] Large Background Images

2008-05-13 Thread David Hucklesby
On Tue, 13 May 2008 22:11:29 -0400, Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: Hi Chris, bandwidth. However standards are still a concern, what perils of wisdom for using a full-page BG can the list cultivate? Hard on those with a slow connection, but I cannot foresee another issue unless the