Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode

2009-03-26 Thread tee
On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: tee wrote: Sorry for my ignorant, is IE8 out? Yes, as of March 19th. Keep an eye on a site like this... http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/ ...and you'll at most only be a few days off regarding new releases. Georg, thanks. I have

Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode

2009-03-26 Thread tee
On Mar 26, 2009, at 7:58 AM, tee wrote: Strange that Microsoft is a bit shy with the new release because I have not been prompted to update the browser each time I turned on the PC. None of my clients' sites that I have access to their analytics, show IE 8 stats, except mine. Good

RE: [WSG] add to favorites?

2009-03-26 Thread Dennis Lapcewich
And for those of you with legal requirements to use or avoid certain features?great! Use them as you will! But don?t criticize others who take a more practical approach and aren?t enslaved by the legal requirements which chain you down. I don't believe that legal requirements providing

[WSG] IE8: Extensions to CSS

2009-03-26 Thread tee
I was looking for a IE8 CSS support chart (do you know any?) and stumble on this site: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc304082(VS.85).aspx Extensions to CSS The following CSS attributes are Microsoft extensions to the CSS 2.1 specification and should be specified with an -ms-

RE: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode

2009-03-26 Thread michael.brockington
-Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Chris F.A. Johnson Sent: 25 March 2009 18:03 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Gunlaug S?rtun wrote: The start html tag is

RE: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode

2009-03-26 Thread Foskett, Mike
Oh, forgot to kudos the IE8 team, that I find the page load performance is on par with Safari :) It's actually on par with Firefox 3 - running six parallel downloads per url. Safari and Opera should do slightly better running 8 concurrently. But either way it's far better than the original

Re: [WSG] IE8: Extensions to CSS

2009-03-26 Thread James Jeffery
Why do Microsoft always feel the need to include their own properties. Are these in the CSS 2.1 specs? I've never seen them. 2009/3/26 tee weblis...@gmail.com I was looking for a IE8 CSS support chart (do you know any?) and stumble on this site:

RE: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode

2009-03-26 Thread James Leslie
I was aware of the X-UA-Compatible thing, but have no intention of going down that route: I have no way of knowing whether my code is compatible with IE9 or not, so how can I decide which mode it should render in next year? (As you can all see, I'm not too sure whether it is compatible with

Re: [WSG] IE8: Extensions to CSS

2009-03-26 Thread James Ducker
Why do Microsoft always feel the need to include their own properties. Back in the day Microsoft utterly dominated the browser market, and as a byproduct of this were the main force of innovation in browsers and the web experience in general. IE was often released with non-standard features that

Re: [WSG] IE8: Extensions to CSS

2009-03-26 Thread Christian Montoya
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:56 PM, James Jeffery jamesjeffery@googlemail.com wrote: Why do Microsoft always feel the need to include their own properties. Are these in the CSS 2.1 specs? I've never seen them. For the same reason as Mozilla, Apple, etc. And I think I know the reason...

RE: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode

2009-03-26 Thread Nick Hodge
On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: tee wrote: Sorry for my ignorant, is IE8 out? Yes, as of March 19th. Keep an eye on a site like this... http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/ ...and you'll at most only be a few days off regarding new releases. Georg,

RE: Who's responsible (was Re: [WSG] add to favorites?)

2009-03-26 Thread Stuart Foulstone
The point of the introduction of Web standards was so that user-agent manufacturers can create browsers that render them as intended by the designer. And that, yes, in 10 years time the browsers that exist then (whatever form they may take)will still render them as intended because they are