[WSG] RE: WCAG 2.0 compliance and best practise on the Skip to function [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

2012-06-05 Thread Steve Green
these browsers. I believe that Opera has the native ability to jump to headings, so that would provide a very similar capability, especially if you add hidden headings for the navigation. I don't believe any other browsers have any such features yet. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners

RE: [WSG] WCAG 2.0 compliance and best practise on the Skip to function [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

2012-06-05 Thread Steve Green
that it is merely replicating the function of the Home key. Of course tablets and mobile phones don't have a Home key, which sort of undermines that argument. Steve From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Rapley Sent: 05 June 2012 22:37 To: wsg

RE: [WSG] Source order of content / navigation

2012-06-05 Thread Steve Green
is for and why it is deemed necessary for the focus to move to the main body content first. As a general principle, meeting users' expectations is important for a good user experience. As Steve Krug said, don't make me think. Steve -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li

RE: [WSG] WSG - Time for a re-think on WSG.

2012-03-19 Thread Steve Green
You wouldn't put up with a web page that forced you to read a short message and hit the delete key before seeing the rest of the page. That's exactly what the new European cookie law is going to force you to do. -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org

RE: [WSG] list heading - best practice?

2012-03-07 Thread Steve Green
-Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Oliver Boermans Sent: 07 March 2012 11:20 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] list heading - best practice? On 6 March 2012 09:20, Dan Freeman dan.free...@lexi.com wrote:

RE: [WSG] list heading - best practice?

2012-03-07 Thread Steve Green
dialog, but none of those purposes apply in this case. An h? heading is all that is required, as others have previously said. Steve -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of coder Sent: 07 March 2012 12:42 To: wsg

Re: [WSG] list heading - best practice?

2012-03-05 Thread Steve Faulkner
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Re: [WSG] list heading - best practice?

2012-03-05 Thread Steve Faulkner
hi again, maybe i missed something but whats the issue with using heading in a list? regards stevef On 5 March 2012 01:51, Steve Faulkner faulkner.st...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, agree with Russ here, for example does ul title=list_title change the semantics? I think not, use of aria

RE: [WSG] Read Speaker?

2012-02-21 Thread Steve Green
for these services (and they are not cheap) there are much better ways you can spend the money that will benefit more people. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of James O'Neill Sent: 21 February 2012 18:34 To: wsg

RE: [WSG] Read Speaker?

2012-02-21 Thread Steve Green
fund a continuous program of remedial work that would benefit all user groups rather than the fairly narrow range of user groups that benefit from ReadSpeaker. Steve Green From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of James O'Neill Sent: 21 February 2012 19

RE: [WSG] Accessibility: form errors at the end

2011-07-18 Thread Steve Green
If you are asking whether there needs to be a link from the error message to the corresponding form control, the answer is no. Steve Green Director Test Partners Ltd From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org on behalf of Sue Sent: Mon 18/07/2011 02:45 To: wsg

RE: [WSG] accessibilty: avoid radio buttons?

2011-07-16 Thread Steve Green
and only one click is necessary instead of two. Steve Green Director Test Partners Ltd From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org on behalf of tee Sent: Sun 17/07/2011 00:14 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] accessibilty: avoid radio buttons? I am building

RE: [WSG] Accessibility Testing

2011-06-24 Thread Steve Green
regarding the use of Vision Australia's tools if you have the skills to use them. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Spellacy, Michael Sent: 24 June 2011 17:16 To: wsg

Re: [WSG] question about screen reader behavior when pulling in content via Ajax fetch

2011-03-27 Thread Steve Faulkner
...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG www.paciellogroup.com | www.HTML5accessibility.com | www.twitter.com/stevefaulkner HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives - dev.w3.org/html5

RE: [WSG] Mobile testing methods or emulators

2011-03-26 Thread Steve Green
than you could do the task using a desktop browser. Even typing URLs was taking a couple of minutes (they typically contained 50 characters or so), so we had to use a URL shortening service to speed that up. Good luck and let us know if you find a better service. Steve Green Director Test

RE: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x

2011-01-27 Thread Steve Green
and interesting, not because they provide better value for their clients. Steve From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of tee Sent: 27 January 2011 00:40 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4

RE: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x

2011-01-27 Thread Steve Green
there was any value in it. Steve From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of designer Sent: 27 January 2011 13:14 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x I hear what you are saying Steve, but isn't

RE: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x

2011-01-27 Thread Steve Green
and broader goals (such as 'improving the web' or 'forcing users to upgrade their browsers') and base it on what's most appropriate for your client. Steve From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Savl Ekk Sent: 27 January 2011

RE: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x

2011-01-26 Thread Steve Green
] On Behalf Of Ted Drake Sent: 26 January 2011 18:43 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x Hi Steve Can you give some links to research that back up this statement? As far as I know, the screen readers will accept the new tags when you are using something other than Internet

RE: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x

2011-01-25 Thread Steve Green
that they do. So what exactly is the benefit? Steve From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org on behalf of Thierry Koblentz Sent: Tue 25/01/2011 04:29 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x At the moment, HTML5 doesn't really bring

RE: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x

2011-01-25 Thread Steve Green
different if you're building websites that will be around for years. Steve -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of David Dorward Sent: 25 January 2011 09:52 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x

RE: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x

2011-01-24 Thread Steve Green
(in years rather than months). Steve From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of grant_malcolm_bai...@westnet.com.au Sent: 24 January 2011 22:45 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x Hello

RE: [WSG] Accessible modal windows / lightboxes

2011-01-22 Thread Steve Green
you need to do is Shift+Tab to tab backwards into the lightbox. Alternatively, if you press the tab key enough times the focus will eventually return to the lightbox. Steve From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of tee Sent: 22 January 2011 10:06

RE: [WSG] Accessible modal windows / lightboxes

2011-01-22 Thread Steve Green
before ARIA provides any real benefit. Besides, it was difficult enough to get the developers to make the website WCAG-compliant, never mind introducing new concepts they don't understand. Steve -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org

RE: [WSG] Accessible modal windows / lightboxes

2011-01-21 Thread Steve Green
for that but it didn't get implemented. Steve From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of tee Sent: 21 January 2011 04:21 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessible modal windows / lightboxes On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:44

RE: [WSG] Accessible modal windows / lightboxes

2011-01-20 Thread Steve Green
time the focus is not correctly controlled is when the 'Recommend to a friend' or 'Email results' forms are submitted. In these cases the focus returns to the top of the page. The developers tell us it's because they can't control the focus after an HTTP request. Steve Green Director Test Partners

Re: [WSG] nav or menu?

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Faulkner
The nav element is the correct element to use in the case of site navigation links. You are correct about menu which when implemented will be like a desktop app menu. The nav element is not generally accessibility supported in browsers yet, which means it's semantics are not conveyed, but

RE: [WSG] HTML5 - Marking up forms

2010-11-10 Thread Steve Green
I'm with Patrick on this one. The form, fieldset and label elements provide all the semantic structure you need. Anything else is noise. Steve Green Test Partners Ltd -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Eric Taylor

RE: [WSG] Google 'X-ray' banner

2010-11-08 Thread Steve Green
It's just an animated GIF. -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Grant Bailey Sent: 08 November 2010 12:14 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Google 'X-ray' banner Hello, Does anyone know how Google did their

RE: [WSG] Where are we with Frames?

2010-10-26 Thread Steve Green
fixed font sizes, which just introduces a different problem. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of tee Sent: 26 October 2010 03:00 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG

RE: [WSG] Accessibility Testing

2010-10-22 Thread Steve Green
mentioned above) tend not to be cooperative. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh

RE: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread Steve Green
than loading a new page. We keep telling them to implement the feature differently but they persist despite all the accessibility problems it causes. Steve Green Test Partners Ltd *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] Yes/No structure?

2010-06-08 Thread Steve Gibbings
an issue of course, my view was purely user experience. Regards, Steve On 8 Jun 2010, at 02:38, Ben Buchanan wrote: On 7 June 2010 14:58, Steve Gibbings st...@stevegibbings.co.uk wrote: I have a problem with that. Radio button sets should always have an option selected

Re: [WSG] Yes/No structure?

2010-06-08 Thread Steve Gibbings
Buchanan wrote: On 7 June 2010 14:58, Steve Gibbings st...@stevegibbings.co.uk wrote: I have a problem with that. Radio button sets should always have an option selected, there is no undefined selection. This makes sense when you remember where the radio button metaphor came from. However

Re: [WSG] Yes/No structure?

2010-06-08 Thread Steve Gibbings
an issue of course, my view was purely user experience. On 8 Jun 2010, at 02:38, Ben Buchanan wrote: On 7 June 2010 14:58, Steve Gibbings st...@stevegibbings.co.uk wrote: I have a problem with that. Radio button sets should always have an option selected, there is no undefined selection

Re: [WSG] Yes/No structure?

2010-06-06 Thread Steve Gibbings
I have a problem with that. Radio button sets should always have an option selected, there is no undefined selection. This makes sense when you remember where the radio button metaphor came from. However seems that doesn't get universally implemented. On 7 Jun 2010, at 02:25, Ben Buchanan

Re: [WSG] Podlena, Stephen is out of the office.

2010-06-04 Thread Steve Gibbings
Please people set your email auto responses to not respond to email groups. You should be able to add addresses to ignore. Thanks. On 5 Jun 2010, at 00:11, spodl...@bayside.vic.gov.au wrote: I will be out of the office starting 05/06/2010 and will not return until 08/06/2010. I will

Re: [WSG] Testing on Windows 7

2010-04-11 Thread Steve Gibbings
Correction I meant would NOT expect any material differences... You're very welcome Peter. Steve Gibbings Web designer Developer www.stevegibbingsdesign.co.uk On 11/04/2010 10:46, Peter Mount wrote: Thanks for that Have a good day. -- Peter Mount i...@petermount.com On 11/04/2010, at 7:34

RE: [WSG] google chrome frame

2010-01-03 Thread Steve Green
of the world cannot afford to upgrade as fast as we can. Steve Green *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh

RE: [WSG] Complex data tables, accessibility and XHTML Basic 1.1

2009-11-01 Thread Steve Green
-Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: 02 November 2009 01:35 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Complex data tables, accessibility and XHTML Basic 1.1 Steve Green wrote: I am tempted to say

RE: [WSG] skip links

2009-10-28 Thread Steve Green
I always point people to http://blackwidows.co.uk/. The links are accessible to screen readers and are displayed when they have focus so they are accessible to sighted users who use keyboard navigation. _ From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of

RE: [WSG] skip links

2009-10-28 Thread Steve Green
] skip links spot the typo regards Mark _ From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Mark Huppert Sent: Thursday, 29 October 2009 10:34 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] skip links Steve One way to do it is make

RE: [WSG] skip links

2009-10-28 Thread Steve Green
...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Mark Huppert Sent: 29 October 2009 00:19 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] skip links Thanks for that Steve - but I was trying answer the question: Can anyone point me to the best way of providing a 'skip nav' procedure which is invisible to sighted readers

RE: [WSG] Accessible Image Map Editors

2009-10-25 Thread Steve Green
It may seem strange, but image maps are more accessible to screen reader users than to almost any other user group. They are a significant barrier to some user groups even when correctly coded, so you should provide the information in an alternative, accessible manner. For your class exercise you

RE: [WSG] dl as paragraph?

2009-10-12 Thread Steve Green
Hi everyone. I was just looking at a page on the National Library of Australia web site (http://www.nla.gov.au/services/issnabout.html) and noticed the font rendering was strange in my browser (Firefox 3.5.3). When I looked at the markup to try and understand why, I found that the site seem to be

RE: [WSG] accessibility: government

2009-08-26 Thread Steve Green
maintenance as governments switch at varying speeds from WCAG 1.0 to 2.0. This transition may take even longer in cases such as the US who have created their own accessibility requirements based on (but not the same as) the WCAG. Why do you want to know this information? Steve _ From: li

RE: [WSG] Accessible Forms

2009-08-19 Thread Steve Green
JAWS behaves this way. Steve Green Director Test Partners Ltd *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***

[WSG] Form question

2009-07-15 Thread steve . haffenden
of the form tag? Thanks Steve Haffenden *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***

RE: [WSG] Ecomm using Paypal

2009-06-21 Thread Steve Eagleson
The site appears to have been generated from a package or template. I'm guessing that this was MySource Matrix, but I don't see any info on PayPal integration on their site. Do you have the original application or documentation? If so, you might contact them or PayPal. As this is for

RE: [WSG] Ecomm using Paypal

2009-06-21 Thread Steve Eagleson
From the PayPal site at https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-contentcontent_ID=developer/ e_howto_html_Appx_websitestandard_htmlvariables#id08A6HH0D0TA no_shipping is an optional attribute, which deals with shipping addresses. Allowable values are: 0 - prompt for an address, but do not

RE: [WSG] fonts problems

2009-06-20 Thread Steve Eagleson
With the exception of the missing graphics, everything looks OK to me in IE8. Like Matijs, I’m not sure what “insert f” means. Are you trying to edit your style sheet? Oh wait, I found a problem. You forgot to fold the eggs back in to your vegetable fried rice grin From:

RE: [WSG] fonts problems

2009-06-20 Thread Steve Eagleson
should be on your computer, unless they have removed them in Vista. Anybody using Vista that can verify this? There is also an invalid color code in the a:visited section, line 21. Should be six characters, not five. Hope this helps From: Steve Eagleson [mailto:zen27

RE: [WSG] fonts problems

2009-06-20 Thread Steve Eagleson
: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Steve Eagleson Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 2:23 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] fonts problems With the exception of the missing graphics, everything looks OK to me in IE8. Like Matijs, I’m

RE: [WSG] The weirdest IE bug I've ever encountered.

2009-06-03 Thread Steve Green
://foorider.blogspot.com/2007/09/css-ie7-float-italic-background.html http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/italicbug-ie.html Steve _ From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Essential eBiz Solutions Sent: 04 June 2009 02:57 To: wsg

RE: [WSG] Image Replacement and Accessabilty

2009-04-14 Thread Steve Green
. Techniques such as sIFR or FLIR address some of these issues but none of them address all the issues, so every technique will be inaccessible to some people. Steve *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

RE: [WSG] add to favorites?

2009-03-25 Thread Steve Green
It's not just replicating browser functionality - it's a call to action. As such I think it's perfectly reasonable. Steve -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Lauke Sent: 25 March 2009 13:36 To: wsg

RE: [WSG] add to favorites?

2009-03-25 Thread Steve Green
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Maben Sent: 25 March 2009 15:18 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] add to favorites? On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Steve Green wrote: It's not just replicating browser functionality

RE: [WSG] add to favorites?

2009-03-25 Thread Steve Green
Standards. -- Is this list interested in discussing how to balance the conflicting requirements of various stakeholders (including marketers) or does it take the dogmatic position that compliance with web stardards trumps everything else? Steve

RE: [WSG] a WCAG 2.0 question

2009-03-12 Thread Steve Green
, regardless of what WCAG 2.0 may or may not say. Steve -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Jon Gunderson Sent: 12 March 2009 14:23 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] a WCAG 2.0 question I think

Re: [WSG] macpro and softwares..

2009-03-05 Thread Steve Wiles
of both worlds. have fun Steve On 5 Mar 2009, at 18:32, Naveen Bhaskar wrote: Hi, I used to work in a windows system and now I am working in a macbook pro. how can I test my webpages for IE. Is there any IE installers available for mac? Also pls let me know what are the softwares available

Re: [WSG] Link issue

2009-02-06 Thread Steve Wilkison
It's something in your CSS. If you disable the CSS the links work fine. Not sure what code is causing it, but I'll try to look further. Steve Wilkison Digital Vision Media www.digitalvisionmedia.com On Feb 6, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Kristine Cummins wrote: Hi all: I’m having a strange link

RE: [WSG] embedding quicktime .mov cross-platform

2009-01-15 Thread Steve Green
I don't allow QuickTime to be installed on any of our machines either. Is there a reason why you can't use a file format that has a larger installed user base? Most non-Mac users won't have QuickTime. Steve -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li

RE: [WSG] credibility of accessibility validator and evaluator

2008-12-31 Thread Steve Green
to ignore them completely. Steve -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of tee Sent: 31 December 2008 10:43 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] credibility of accessibility validator and evaluator I was testing the FAE

[WSG] Steve Brown is out of the office.

2008-12-23 Thread steve . brown
I will be out of the office starting 24/12/2008 and will not return until 12/01/2009. During that time urgent web issues can be sent to Mitchell Essex up to an including the 2nd January and to Kate Needham from the 3rd to the 9th. If all else fails, I can be contacted on my mobile on 0408 406

RE: [WSG] jquery ui.slider keyboard navigation question

2008-12-12 Thread Steve Green
to operate the sliders. However, if the window has a scrollbar, both the slider and the scrollbar move at the same time in both browsers. If the Ctrl key is used in addition to the arrow key, only the slider moves. Steve -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li

Re: [WSG] Acceptable JavaScript Coding Practice?

2008-12-09 Thread Steve Workman
Hi Brett, Your problem here would be around the usage of the identifier variable. What if another method changed what element the identifier pointed at? In this case, you'd be better off redeclaring the getElement selector to patch this security risk. Steve 2008/12/9 Brett Patterson [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] Acceptable JavaScript Coding Practice?

2008-12-09 Thread Steve Workman
to the unobtrusive javascript comments: yes, it's best practice to use a library like jQuery or Prototype, but for simple one-use things, or starting to learn JavaScript, its not a bad idea to write it out by hand. Steve 2008/12/9 Brett Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Steve, How could another method change

[WSG] jQuery problems

2008-11-28 Thread Steve Green
I would be grateful if any JavaScript (specifically jQuery) experts could contact me off-list as I have a client who needs some remedial work done (for which they will pay). Also are there any more suitable places I could post this request? Steve

RE: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-28 Thread Steve Green
Stuart's point is that blinking content violates checkpoint 7.2 of the W3C Web Content Accessibility Guidelines: Until user agents allow users to control blinking, avoid causing content to blink (i.e., change presentation at a regular rate, such as turning on and off) Steve -Original

RE: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread Steve Green
://www.bbc.co.uk/education/betsie/tech.html You can do a lot of what Betsie does using CSS but the one thing you can't do is replace the images with their 'alt' attributes. Steve _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom ('Mas) Pickering Sent: 20 November 2008 20:20 To: wsg

RE: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread Steve Green
Agreed. If you've got a user agent that does what you need, Betsie doesn't really add anything. If you don't have access to your own machine (and none of us do all of the time) then it does perform a useful function for some people. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread Steve Green
Yes it does. It allows the creation of a text-only version for people who need one but don't have a suitable user agent on the machine that they currently have access to. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Montoya Sent: 20

RE: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread Steve Green
that is not configured to their needs and cannot be altered e.g. in an Internet cafe or a locked-down machine in someone else's office. Your image replacement technique does not cater for these situations unless you also add a style switcher, but that appears to be taboo in this list. Steve -Original Message

RE: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread Steve Green
. We're not starting with a clean sheet, so a jump to a pure semantic website just isn't going to happen in one step (at least not in the timescale they are looking for). Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Montoya Sent: 20

RE: [WSG] Big Browsing Issues on clients PC Laptop AOL

2008-10-18 Thread Steve Green
it used that, otherwise it installed a newer version. It would be interesting to see if the same problems occur when she accesses the website using Internet Explorer. Steve *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

RE: [WSG] Fieldsets Legends

2008-10-03 Thread Steve Green
anyone have any thoughts on this matter or know of any software that does support fieldsets and legends! Thanks Clare -- Can you explain what problem you are trying to solve? You can't change what user agents people have, so what is your objective? Steve

RE: [WSG] WCAG2 in general

2008-09-29 Thread Steve Green
of standards at the top end unless developers go beyond what WCAG 2.0 requires (and what's the chance of that?). Does anyone think that WCAG 2.0 will improve the user experience? Or do you take my view that it only benefits developers, and that the user experience will be worse in future? Steve

Re: [WSG] Best format for accessible equations

2008-09-22 Thread Steve Baty
, and unambiguously translate the symbolic representation of the equation into English. Best regards Steve Baty 2008/9/22 Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Might I suggest quite simply, that in the alt attribute, you write in english, basically what you would say if you were to read the mathematical

[WSG] I am currently away...

2008-09-20 Thread steve
I am currently away from the office until Wednesday the 24th of September and will reply to your email then. All the best, Steve Dangerfield. 0403 895050 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

[WSG] I am currently away...

2008-09-19 Thread steve
I am currently away from the office until Wednesday the 24th of September and will reply to your email then. All the best, Steve Dangerfield. 0403 895050 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

[WSG] I am currently away...

2008-09-18 Thread steve
I am currently away from the office until Wednesday the 24th of September and will reply to your email then. All the best, Steve Dangerfield. 0403 895050 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

[WSG] I am currently away...

2008-09-17 Thread steve
I am currently away from the office until Wednesday the 24th of September and will reply to your email then. All the best, Steve Dangerfield. 0403 895050 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

RE: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???

2008-09-04 Thread Steve Green
that they are entirely excluded from the beta phase, so it seems they will not be able to provide feedback until it goes gold, if it ever does. For an organisation with Google's resources this is totally unacceptable. Steve *** List

RE: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???

2008-09-03 Thread Steve Green
Yes, this is the case. There has been a lot of talk about this in GAWDS, and Steve Faulkner has written about it at http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=92. Basically it looks like there's no MSAA support. If they don't address this, many large organisations (at least in the UK) will not use

RE: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-15 Thread Steve Green
Thanks Steve for the clarification. OK, in the risk of showing more ignorant, I still have question. My understanding on WCAG guidelines, are the fundamental principle of DDA, Section 508 and similar law in other countries correct? When a website is to be DDA or Section 508 compliant, for lack

RE: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-14 Thread Steve Green
. The latter is concerned with 'actual outcomes' i.e. can people with disabilities access the site. It is reasonable to include Section 508 because it is not a subset of WCAG AAA. It is substantially based on WCAG but it has additional requirements. Steve

RE: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-14 Thread Steve Green
application to a single person. Steve *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

RE: [WSG] Reverting to older version of flash for testing purposes.

2008-07-08 Thread Steve Green
installs the same Flash version onto every browser on every partition so you can't have different Flash versions on the same machine. There may be a way to hack this but I can't figure it out. Steve _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caleb Wong Sent: 09 July

RE: [WSG] ADA Compliant Flash

2008-07-07 Thread Steve Green
/ consultant. This is a mid-level to senior position based on London and I am offering a substantial finders fee for anyone who can introduce a candidate that we recruit. Full details are available on request. Steve Green Labscape www.labscape.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [WSG] ADA Compliant Flash

2008-07-07 Thread Steve Green
is AAA-compliant (if such a thing were possible); a person can still bring an action if the website was not accessible to them (although there is no guarantee they will win). Only a court can decide if the website met the law or not. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto

RE: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

2008-07-03 Thread Steve Green
(there are limits to what is achievable even when a site is designed well). Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Sparber Sent: 03 July 2008 20:41 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming I wonder what

RE: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

2008-07-03 Thread Steve Green
screen resolution of 1024x768 while there are still a significant number of people still using lower resolutions. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Sparber Sent: 03 July 2008 22:17 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG

RE: [WSG] Firefox 3 candidate

2008-06-23 Thread Steve Green
and testers still need them for testing. We download and store all the English versions but it's not practical to save all the localised versions too. Steve _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sagnik Dey Sent: 23 June 2008 11:21 To: wsg

Re: [WSG] Breadcrumbs showing organisational structure and usability

2008-06-06 Thread Steve Baty
help. Regards Steve 2008/6/6 libwebdev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi folks, My organisation manages around 7000+ pages for 100s of departments, using a CMS. Mine is the only department outside the CMS, just because we can. We have been persuaded (read: bullied) to redesign our header to exactly

Re: [WSG] Breadcrumbs showing organisational structure and usability

2008-06-06 Thread Steve Baty
Thank you Jessica. Your clarification is correct :) 2008/6/6 Jessica Enders [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I agree with most of the comments in response to this query but thought I would clarify one part of what Steve said, namely that: breadcrumbs ... represent the content pathway the user followed

RE: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-09 Thread Steve Green
, and some did work that way but I don't know any that do now. Most users are unaware of how pages are marked up so I don't think that they would have a preference for lists, vertical bars or anything else. During user testing we encounter both, and have not observed problems with either. Steve

RE: [WSG] accessibility and brower compatibility for Kiosk mode?

2008-04-17 Thread Steve Green
are the way to go. Steve *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [WSG] Rogue text appears in IE6.

2008-04-03 Thread Steve Green
It's the well known IE6 duplicate text bug. http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/dup-characters.html _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Enslin Sent: 03 April 2008 10:51 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Rogue text appears in IE6.

RE: [WSG] nest heading properly

2008-03-28 Thread Steve Green
of content but do not pay much attention to the nesting. In my opinion, consistency of use is more important. Of course this reflects the appalling state of web design as it exists now, and maybe in 5 years time standards will have risen sufficiently that users' expectations will be higher. Steve

RE: [WSG] Web Browser Testing and the Practicality of Testing other OSs

2008-02-26 Thread Steve Green
. Steve _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew WC Brown Sent: 26 February 2008 14:29 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Web Browser Testing and the Practicallity of Testing other OS's Hi WSG, I'm testing a custom application to see

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