you're right of course. I should use an OL and put the breadcrumb
text as a heading. However I found this method to be the most
compliant and easiest to implement, and it is understandable in most
browsers.
On 23 Feb 2006, at 20:55, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Stephen Stagg wrote:
For
Kevin Futter wrote:
Anyway, for the benefit of others interested in this thread/topic, the
upshot from the above link seems to be that the pipe character (|) is the
best compromise currently available as a screen reader-friendly element
separator.
I profoundly disagree with that. The vertical
On 23 Feb 2006, at 11:19, Ian Anderson wrote:
Kevin Futter wrote:
Anyway, for the benefit of others interested in this thread/topic,
the
upshot from the above link seems to be that the pipe character (|)
is the
best compromise currently available as a screen reader-friendly
element
2006 11:19:45 +
From: Ian Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] Breadcrumb as Section Heading H1
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Kevin Futter wrote:
Anyway, for the benefit of others interested in this
thread/topic, the
upshot from the above link seems to be that the pipe
character
Ian Anderson wrote:
http://www.standards-schmandards.com/?2004/11/06/6-the-sound-of-the-accessibl
e-title-tag-separator
Anyway, for the benefit of others interested in this thread/topic,
the upshot from the above link seems to be that the pipe character
(|) is the best compromise currently
Stephen Stagg wrote:
For the benefit of Screen-readers and textmode browsers, I add a LI with
the text 'breadcrumb' at the top of the list which is then hidden using
CSS. It's not a perfect solution but it works.
ul
li class=firstBreadcrumb: /
liaMenu Item 1//
liaMenu Item 2//
On 23/2/06 10:19 PM, Ian Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin Futter wrote:
Anyway, for the benefit of others interested in this thread/topic, the
upshot from the above link seems to be that the pipe character (|) is the
best compromise currently available as a screen reader-friendly
On 22/2/06 10:38 AM, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin Futter wrote:
My only concern about using a string
of text is defining a semantically-appropriate item delimiter that works
well for assistive technologies.
This seems apropos:
Kevin Futter wrote:
Yes, I've argued strongly in the past that a list is not completely
semantically-appropriate for breadcrumbs markup. Unlike breadcrumbs, a flat
list does not represent a hierarchy, unless you nest them
...
Of course I have to qualify this by saying that I treat breadcrumbs
On 21/2/06 7:00 PM, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin Futter wrote:
Yes, I've argued strongly in the past that a list is not completely
semantically-appropriate for breadcrumbs markup. Unlike breadcrumbs, a flat
list does not represent a hierarchy, unless you nest them
...
Kevin Futter wrote:
While I can concede that an ordered list offers more chance of an implied
hierarchy than an unordered one, I'm not keen on the amount of code required
to produce the result, nor the concept of a series of nested lists, each
with one element.
I'm not keen on the nesting of
I thought it would be interesting to see what Yahoo says (and does)
about breadcrumbs in their pattern library: http://
developer.yahoo.net/ypatterns/pattern_breadcrumbs.php
They don't discuss the HTML, but looking at the source, I see they
use an unordered list in some sort of template, as
Hi All,
I'm working on site with a large amount of content that can get up to 5
levels deep.
With a breadcrumb such as: My Site Developers Resources Specific
Resource
I've been reading this:
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#document-headers
Specifically I would like some
I want to use the name of the site in the H1.
Is it appropriate to use the breadcrumb as the H1 element?
I'd say it is better to use the h1 element for the site name as an initial
statement then use something like an ordered list or unordered list for the
breadcrumb:
h1
Site name
/h1
ol
James,I'd suggest this guideline refers to the body content of a page rather than navigational elements. If it were me, I wouldn't wrap an H1 around the breadcrumbs (or part thereof). I would reserve the use of H1, H2 etc for page headings, section headings, bylines, sub-section titles etc only.
Thanks Russ, and Steve thats 2 no's I don't need any more convincing.
I'll leave the site name as the first heading.
Cheers,
James
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James Hunter:
Is it appropriate to use the breadcrumb as the H1 element?
Breadcrumbs do not describe the *document* structure - they hint at the
*site* structure (provided you only provide a hierarchal navigation
system) or site history (depending on what type of breadcrumb you
employ).
Terrence Wood wrote:
James Hunter:
Is it appropriate to use the breadcrumb as the H1 element?
I'm thinking out aloud here: not sure why, but using a list for
breadcrumbs doesn't quite sit right with me, despite it being a type of
navigation device. I think it is due to list structures
On 21/02/06, Terrence Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm thinking out aloud here: not sure why, but using a list forbreadcrumbs doesn't quite sit right with me, despite it being a type ofnavigation device. I think it is due to list structures replacing thedir and menu elements - and the notion that
On 21/2/06 12:31 PM, Terrence Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
James Hunter:
Is it appropriate to use the breadcrumb as the H1 element?
Breadcrumbs do not describe the *document* structure - they hint at the
*site* structure (provided you only provide a hierarchal navigation
system) or site
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