Re: [WSG] Naked metadata - RDF in HTML

2005-11-10 Thread Terrence Wood
Andy Kirkwood|Motive said: An interesting application of the technology, although I'm not sure that is addresses how to make it *easier* for administrators to maintain metadata records. and (Assuming the ideal solution would be a wysiwyg editing environment for non-technical content authors.)

Re: [WSG] Naked metadata - RDF in HTML

2005-11-10 Thread Andy Kirkwood|Motive
Title: Re: [WSG] Naked metadata - RDF in HTML Hi Terrence, It feels like we're talking at cross-purposes? I'm approaching the subject with the idea that metadata is important in order for people to find (related) information at some later time. Interesting and valid point, unfortunately

Re: [WSG] Naked metadata - RDF in HTML

2005-11-09 Thread Terrence Wood
Thanks Jonathon. This is great, I have forwarded a link to your page to our metadata people. -- kind regards Terrence Wood. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for

Re: [WSG] Naked metadata - RDF in HTML

2005-11-09 Thread Terrence Wood
Some more thoughts (that send button is just too easy to press =) Would using a rel or rev attribute be more appropriate than using a class to delineate the metadata? These attributes imply a relationship whereas class does not. If you needed to get at elements containing metadata at the

Re: [WSG] Naked metadata - RDF in HTML

2005-11-09 Thread Andy Kirkwood|Motive
Hi Jonathan, An interesting application of the technology, although I'm not sure that is addresses how to make it *easier* for administrators to maintain metadata records. ISSUES (Assuming the ideal solution would be a wysiwyg editing environment for non-technical content authors.)

Re: [WSG] Naked metadata - RDF in HTML

2005-11-08 Thread Jonathan O'Donnell
Hi Ian, Liddy, Charles, Peter, Misha, Alan, Patrick, Andy, Geoff, DC-General and WSG Thank you for all your help and comments. In particular, thank you, Ian, for RDF in HTML. Last week, I wrote to the DC-General and the Web Standards Group mailing lists. I was lamenting the fact that

[WSG] Naked metadata

2005-11-05 Thread Jonathan O'Donnell
Hi WSG'ers After seeing Sarah's post about CSS for titles, I thought that people might be interested in this idea. It's a half baked idea. If you have any comments or suggestions, I would love to hear them. Apologies for those who have already seen this on the DC-General list. ** The

Re: [WSG] Naked metadata

2005-11-05 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Jonathan O'Donnell wrote: meta name=DC.title content=#title / meta name=DC.creator content=#creator / meta name=DC.creator content=#rights / I'm not a DC expert, but I believe that that's not a valid way to go about it. When you embed DC information via meta elements, content

Re: [WSG] Naked metadata

2005-11-05 Thread Andy Kirkwood|Motive
Hi Jonathan, I second Patrick's comment that 'pointing' the DC records to content on the page is not the solution. Although, from a maintenance perspective, this may appear to be a work-around for not completing the metadata records (questionable), metadata harvesting tools are unlikely to

Re: [WSG] Naked metadata

2005-11-05 Thread Geoff Deering
Jonathan O'Donnell wrote: Hi WSG'ers In general, data (including metadata) should be stored in one place only. This prevents drift: if it is only stored in one place, it can only be updated in that place. Often, the information that we want to store as metadata already appears in the Web