Thanks Steve for the clarification.
OK, in the risk of showing more ignorant, I still have question. My
understanding on WCAG guidelines, are the fundamental principle of DDA,
Section 508 and similar law in other countries correct? When a website is to
be DDA or Section 508 compliant, for lack
An individual who brings a case under the DDA can seek
monetary compensation. However, the law is supposed to be a
last resort, and users are expected to give the website owner
the opportunity to make the website accessible before
resorting to law. Failure to do so suggests that the plaintiff
Hello everyone,
Will try to keep it simple.
I have much experience of working on various e-commerce systems and know the
following:
1. Serious e-commerce systems are very complex (i.e. Magento)
2. 90% of e-commerce systems are not accessible, let alone standards
compliant
3. Even
Will try to keep it simple.
I have much experience of working on various e-commerce systems and know the
following:
Serious e-commerce systems are very complex (i.e. Magento)
90% of e-commerce systems are not accessible, let alone standards compliant
Even templated UI solutions tend to
On Aug 14, 2008, at 3:09 AM, Krystian - Sunlust wrote:
It costs £300 man, I would prefer to get an open source solution,
community paid support.
Try getting support from Magento, likely £300 is comparably very
inexpensive, considering that commercial software ought to give you
On Aug 14, 2008, at 3:09 AM, Krystian - Sunlust wrote:
It costs £300 man, I would prefer to get an open source solution,
community paid support.
Try getting support from Magento, likely £300 is comparably very
inexpensive, considering that commercial software ought to give you support
on
On Aug 14, 2008, at 5:22 AM, Steve Green wrote:
I have no idea what they mean by UK DDA aware. DDA is not a
technical
standard and has nothing to do with the WCAG. Compliance with WCAG
(even
AAA) is no guarantee that a site meets the requirements of the DDA.
The
latter is concerned with
I thought that UK DDA is based on the WCAG AA guideline no? One time I
did a template coding for a UK company, and was asked to follow WCAG AA
guideline.
As for Section 508, my impression is that, despite the additional
requirements, it doesn't even quite meet the WCAG A.
In the early years of
On Aug 14, 2008, at 12:44 PM, Steve Green wrote:
No, the DDA is not based on WCAG. The DDA is not a technical
standard, it is
a UK law. If a website is not accessible to someone, they can (in
theory)
bring a case against the website owner under the DDA regardless of
whether
the website
Do the free [shopping carts] (such as ZenCart and OsCommerce) do an
adequate job ?
I once did a ZenCart job for a friend and found it extremely confusing.
ZenCart has hundreds of options and if you're new to the software you
should prepare for a lot of searching on the net. That said there are
Do the free [shopping carts] (such as ZenCart and OsCommerce) do an
adequate job ?
My friend populated the shop at the time because he was savvy with
Photoshop and could do all the image work himself. But you could as
well end up doing that too if your client hasn't that knowledge.
I think it would be worth your while to go and check out Magento -
http://www.magentocommerce.com/
The makers of this product have done a great job of making it
standards compliant, as well as very usable. We're in the process of
integrating it into a new project.
Regards,
Nick
8bits
.
I think it would be worth your while to go and check out Magento
- http://www.magentocommerce.com/
The makers of this product have done a great job of making it
standards compliant, as well as very usable. We're in the process of
integrating it into a new project.
OK - thanks- will do!
I used osCommerce and Virtuemart with Joomla.
osCommerce is pretty straightforward, Virtuemart is a plugin/component
for Joomla CMS and I prefer it even thought it's not as good (it's
simpler tho).
You don't need any photoshop knowledge above resizing/cutting photos
and that's really basics.
Now
.Thanks Krystian
You don't need any photoshop knowledge above resizing/cutting photos
and that's really basics.
Now about inputting products, I have made a shop for a friend who has
over 1000 products so obviously he and his team had to input all of
them (I've prepared and printed a tutorial
: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what
I think it would be worth your while to go and check out Magento -
http://www.magentocommerce.com/
The makers of this product have done a great job of making it standards
compliant, as well as very usable
their site.
Cheers
Adam
magento user: tweakmag
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From: 8bits Media
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what
I think it would be worth your while to go and check out Magento -
http
On Aug 13, 2008, at 1:34 AM, Lynette Smith wrote:
Have always avoided doing sites that needed a shopping cart but a
new client will need one. I would appreciate some advice. Do the
free ones (such as ZenCart and OsCommerce) do an adequate job or
would I be better off advising my client
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Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:57 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
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why would it not work as a directory under the main site tree, i.e.:
www.domain.com.au/shop/http://www.domain.com.au/shop/.
I think developers
$500 for a custom job that, done properly, would be a couple of days
work at least for an experienced developer sounds pretty cheap to me...
That's half my day rate
Joe
On Aug 13, 2008, at 11:15, Jason Pruim wrote:
On Aug 13, 2008, at 1:34 AM, Lynette Smith wrote:
Have always avoided
Subject: Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what
why would it not work as a directory under the main site tree, i.e.:
www.domain.com.au/shop/http://www.domain.com.au/shop/.
I think developers are keen on a lightweight, simple to use and
deploy and template shopping cart system. ZenCart
Hi Jason
Don't have much to offer, but just wanted to let you know I looked
into a custom cart awhile back for a job that never went through, but
the cart was going to cost around $500 by the time it was ready. So
while it seems like alot of money, it's probably a decent deal.
Well, if
solution
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what
$500 for a custom job that, done properly, would be a couple of days
work at least for an experienced
13, 2008 11:51 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what
I've recently started to use drupal with the ubercart module. It's really easy
to set up and it's pretty easy to theme too.
drupal on its own is a great cms. Download the whole package from ubercart
: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what
$500 for a custom job that, done properly, would be a couple of days
work at least for an experienced developer sounds pretty cheap to
me...
That's half my day rate
Joe
On Aug 13, 2008, at 11:15, Jason
Could some of you guys trim the messages?
It's really hard to read when you top post above useless tones of wording.
Regards,
--
Krystian - Sunlust - I-M-A:
Freelancer on the side: http://sunlust.net
Full time Website Designer: http://smesolutions.co.uk/
@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what
$500 for a custom job that, done properly, would be a couple of days
work at least for an experienced developer sounds pretty cheap to me...
That's half my day rate
Joe
On Aug 13, 2008, at 11:15
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 21:23:23 Krystian - Sunlust wrote:
Could some of you guys trim the messages?
It's really hard to read when you top post above useless tones of wording.
Regards,
Hi all
This thread has gone off topic for the list, if you want to continue to
discuss it, please do
Okay, I'll try to bring it back OnTopic.
Which of shopping cards actually uses css based templates without
tones of tables? And if noone will mind, which CMS does so?
I mean,I'm using Joomla and everyone says that the templates are
standard compliant etc, but when I see the bloody header named
Good points Krystian
I've make standards compliant templates in ZenCart but it was a very
hard slog and involved minimising a lot of the functions and layout
options, not ideal. Also, you rightly address semantic mark-up as
vital which few cart options get right. If I'm in the dvd section,
Hi Krystian,
Again i would recommend drupal for cms - standards compliant SEO
friendly as standard.
And then the ubercart ecommerce module for drupal - standards
compliant as standard too :)
Thats exactly the reason why we have started to use it. Would have
used cubecart as v4 is
I use and teach PlainCart for our Electronic Commerce subjects. Visit
http://www.plaincart.info for details.
brgds,
Bob Reyes
http://bobreyes.com
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Lynette Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Have always avoided doing sites that needed a shopping cart but a new
If anyone was bored, it would be cool to post a shopping cart name and
then a link to an example shop actually made by someone from this
group/a friend, so that we know that real people make those shops (not
huge companies with big $$$).
I'll post my shop made in Joomla 1.5 with Virtuemart (I'm
cc
Subject
Can I widen the question? Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what
Talking about this or that shopping cart may be a long way off topic for
this place; but the underlying question is so similar to one a raised a
few
weeks ago (re PHP libraries) I will step in again.
Our focus
If anybody is likely to collect a list of tools and software that can
(or can be made to) deliver standards based content, it should be us; any
idea how we could list and share?
I would suggest using the forum. Someone created a thread there about this
topic already:
I shortened the URL for you.
That discussion was 2006 so I hope there are more on offer now as
opposed to then...
http://is.gd/1q4a
Joe
On Aug 13, 2008, at 17:07, Kepler Gelotte wrote:
If anybody is likely to collect a list of tools and software that
can
(or can be made to) deliver
From: Joseph Ortenzi wrote:
I shortened the URL for you.
That discussion was 2006 so I hope there are more on offer now as opposed
to then...
http://is.gd/1q4a
Joe
I would suggest using the forum. Someone created a thread there about
this
topic already:
Looks like the forums require a separate application to use?
Bruce
bkdesign
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: Can I widen the question? Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does
surely you've heard of tinyURL?
On Aug 13, 2008, at 17:51, Bruce wrote:
From: Joseph Ortenzi wrote:
I shortened the URL for you.
That discussion was 2006 so I hope there are more on offer now as
opposed to then...
http://is.gd/1q4a
Joe
I would suggest using the forum. Someone created
rare out-of-the-box standards system.
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From: Ian Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:28 AM
Subject: Can I widen the question? Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what
Talking about this or that shopping cart
On Aug 13, 2008, at 12:00 AM, 8bits Media wrote:
I think it would be worth your while to go and check out Magento -
http://www.magentocommerce.com/
The makers of this product have done a great job of making it
standards compliant, as well as very usable. We're in the process of
On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:00 PM, tee wrote:
I'd been learning Magento since beta 1, guess I will add my 2 cents.
Magento is very impressive, and you can make your magento store as
compliant as it can be with its very flexible, a-bit-daunting
template system. But to say magento is standards
Have always avoided doing sites that needed a shopping cart but a new
client will need one. I would appreciate some advice. Do the free ones
(such as ZenCart and OsCommerce) do an adequate job or would I be
better off advising my client to go for a paid one. I have a colleague
who does
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