Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Mordechai Peller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is the Firefox browser used by Web Developers? What does it have that makes it a good tool? - over other browsers? Why not Opera? To address the last question first, Opera happens to be a good choice as well, though I think Firefox is better. The two main

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Mark Harwood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is the Firefox browser used by Web Developers? What does it have that makes it a good tool? - over other browsers? Why not Opera? A good developer should have all browser installed which everone he uses as his default is down to his personal prefrence

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Adam Hennessy
we should all be looking at supporting them all! Isn't it amusing that developers using web standards have to support the browsers. In an ideal world it would be the other way around. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Mordechai Peller
Adam Hennessy wrote: Isn't it amusing that developers using web standards have to support the browsers. In an ideal world it would be the other way around It does sound backwards, however I disagree with the ideal world part because I think it make logical sense. It's the standard backwards

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Peter Asquith
It is, in my experience, best to start with the closest implementation to the standards you can find (in this case I choose Firefox/Gecko) and then code for the exceptional cases. If you start from an outlying position (for example IE 5/Win) and then try to work the other way you will find

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Mordechai Peller
Brian Cummiskey wrote: ALL software will have holes in it. Fact is, mozilla had a patch for it the same day practically In most cases, unless you follow security issues very closely, it's likely you'll hear about the fix before the bug. ... IE's exploits go weeks, and most the time, months.

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Amit Karmakar
They sure do, like I said I do suppost firefox as long as I am on PC and Safari on the Mac. Firefox is excellent, only was curious if the security issue talked about was fixed. Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:31:57 -0400, Brian Cummiskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Adam Hennessy
Firefox is excellent, only was curious if the security issue talked about was fixed. I don't imagine it will be long until it is fixed. http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=253121 That is the beauty of open source. All software can have bugs. It is how fast they are fixed that is of

[WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Helen . Rysavy
Hi I'm putting together a list of web development tools and am wondering about the following: Why is the Firefox browser used by Web Developers? What does it have that makes it a good tool? - over other browsers? Why not Opera? Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Neerav
1. The web developer toolbar http://www.chrispederick.com/work/firefox/webdeveloper/ 2. Tabbed interface for multiple sites in one window 3. Opera has Ads which take up part of its interface -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27

RE: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Andrew Krespanis
Opera's support of form styling was (unitl recently) totally lacklustre. I'm not saying which side of the form styling is inherently wrong fence I sit on, but that combined with the ads is enough for me to choose Mozilla (full suite, not Firefox) as my dev browser.

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Asquith
Hi Helen I use Firefox, in combination with Chris Pederick's Web Developer extension (http://www.chrispederick.com/work/firefox/webdeveloper/), as my primary development browser. Firefox renders my markup and CSS as I'd expect it to be rendered, gives me good page information and has a built

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Amit Karmakar
Although I support firefox this may work against Firefox thought. http://secunia.com/advisories/12160/ On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:29:41 +1200, Peter Asquith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Helen I use Firefox, in combination with Chris Pederick's Web Developer extension

RE: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Miles Tillinger
Message- From: Amit Karmakar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox? Although I support firefox this may work against Firefox thought. http://secunia.com/advisories/12160/ On Thu

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Chris Blown wrote: On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 10:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is the Firefox browser used by Web Developers? What does it have that makes it a good tool? - over other browsers? Why not Opera? DOM Inspector Venkman Javascript Debugger Edit CSS Browser Session Saving

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Jul 29, 2004, at 11:53 am, Amit Karmakar wrote: Although I support firefox this may work against Firefox thought. http://secunia.com/advisories/12160/ For the sake of complete information: it should be noted that both bugs are already fixed.