Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-31 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Terrence Wood wrote: The best web standards thing I learnt in 2005 is: How to best use the summary attribute for screen reader users: The summary attribute is best used to describe the structure of the table, not to summarise it's content. A longer summary is better according to actual screen

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-31 Thread Terrence Wood
On 1 Jan 2006, at 6:00 AM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Coming in late on this: As per the spec http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/tables.html#adef-summary summary = text [CS] This attribute provides a summary of the table's purpose and structure for user agents rendering to non-visual media

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-28 Thread Jan Brasna
+ getting into microformats And all the new buzzwords - AJAX, Web 2.0, tags, folksonomy... :) OK, kidding aside, the best thing I noticed this year was that I changed my approach to all the bits of web design - separated visuals, technology, standards etc. just don't matter - it's user who

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread designer
Most important thing I learned was that XHTML is just 'tag soup' unless you serve it properly. (application/xhtml+xml). In consequence, the worst thing was finding that I had to have a radical rethink about my approach to producing web pages . . . Merry Christmas everybody, and thanks for

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/12/22, Jay Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... Still looking for a valid replacement to the IE CSS, display: inline-block; thing... What am I missing? display: inline-block is perfectly valid in CSS2.1 Is your problem that CSS validator defaults to CSS2 profile? You can change that selecting

RE: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Jamie Mason
Title: RE: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005. The summary attribute is best used to describe the structure of the table, not to summarise it's content ...ooops :) This is the best thing I've learnt this year now too!! Thanks a lot, ...and a general thanks to the people

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Christopher Townson
Terrence Wood wrote: HTH, please share your discovery in 2005. ... the moment when it (finally) dawned on me that CSS is object-based ! ;) + getting into microformats combining these two was an eye-opener: define abtract, re-usable formats for (X)HTML + package with accompanying CSS =

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Jay Gilmore
Rimantas Liubertas wrote: 2005/12/22, Jay Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... Still looking for a valid replacement to the IE CSS, display: inline-block; thing... What am I missing? display: inline-block is perfectly valid in CSS2.1 Is your problem that CSS validator

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Bob Schwartz
Christopher, + getting into microformats I guess I missed something along the way. Where can I find out more about this? Bob ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Bob Schwartz wrote: Christopher, + getting into microformats I guess I missed something along the way. Where can I find out more about this? http://microformats.org/ -- Lachlan Hunt http://lachy.id.au/ ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Leslie Riggs
You see, THAT is the best thing I learnt in 2005 - that there are always more things to learn! Just getting my toes wet in microformats, and understanding a bit more about XHTML... Leslie Riggs Christopher, + getting into microformats I guess I missed something along the way. Where

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
designer wrote: Most important thing I learned was that XHTML is just 'tag soup' unless you serve it properly. (application/xhtml+xml). XHTML makes good soup... :-) ...when it _is_ XHTML. In consequence, the worst thing was finding that I had to have a radical rethink about my approach to

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Christian Montoya
Best thing I learned in 2005: CSS. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... rdpdesign.com ... cssliquid.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

RE: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread kvnmcwebn
btw George Hey thanks for all your help over the last year. The first time i tried to build a site with ws i got so frustrated I shelved it for 6 months. Now because of this list i am comfortable creating fixed width layouts and can mark up any design i can come up with. whats more I can

RE: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-21 Thread Paul Noone
My greatest discovery was seeing how images could be sized using % at WebEssentials. :) My greatest let-down was learning that it wasn't supported in IE. :( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terrence Wood Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2005

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-21 Thread Kenny Graham
The best web standards thing I found this year was this mailing list. You guys are great! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list

RE: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-21 Thread Paul Noone
There's no prize Graham but I'm gonna say, Aww...shucks anyway. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenny Graham Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2005 9:21 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-21 Thread XStandard
Hi Terrence, The summary attribute is best used to describe the structure of the table, not to summarise it's content. Thanks for sharing that with us. Can you please let me know the source of this info? Anybody else have an opinion on this? Regards, -Vlad http://xstandard.com

RE: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-21 Thread kvnmcwebn
best things i learned this year- 1)the star selector hack and before that the underscore hack ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-21 Thread Jared Smith
kvnmcwebn wrote: best things i learned this year- 1)the star selector hack and before that the underscore hack Best thing I learned this year- 1) How to stop using hacks ;-) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-21 Thread Jay Gilmore
Subject: Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005. Hi Terrence, The summary attribute is best used to describe the structure of the table, not to summarise it's content. Thanks for sharing that with us. Can you please let me know the source of this info? Anybody

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-21 Thread Alvaro Mouriño
Transition from tables to web standards is one of the goals I didn't achieve this year. But finding this list was, for sure, one of the best things of the year. Learnt LOT of things, and still have lots more to learn... Migrating completely to Web Standards is one of them (and it's in the top of

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-21 Thread Kay Smoljak
Not the best thing I learnt, but the best thing I did: going to Web Essentials. I can't wait for next year. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.zombiecoder.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-21 Thread Andrew Krespanis
Best new bit of knowledge for me in 2005? XSL. If you know and enjoy using CSS, dive into XSL; it'll rock your world :) hoping everyone has a safe and happy holiday season, Andrew.

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-21 Thread Francesco
Two of the best things I've picked up this year include: * minimizing container and wrapper DIVs, writing minimalist CSS * I learned this last year, but still love it to death: margin: 0 20px 10px 0; instead of writing margin-top, margin-bottom, etc. Francesco Sanfilippo Web Architect and