RE: [WSG] Netscape 4 - let it die

2004-12-17 Thread RMW Web Publishing
Talking about NN4, it seems that the updated OptusNet Helpdesk (for those O/S - Optus is .au's 2nd largest Telco) has started (not fully - still some layout tables) to move to Web Standards and not bothered with NN4 prettiness (the header fails). But the site seems to be doing something a

Re: [WSG] Netscape 4 - let it die

2004-12-17 Thread David R
Kornel Lesinski wrote: Why do you let 8-year-old browser to stop you from making good pages? I agree that webpages should be accessible to all - they should work without CSS and JavaScript. I don't :) I just use the @import; rule to prevent NN4 from loading the stylesheets, and a bit of

Re: [WSG] Netscape 4 - let it die

2004-12-10 Thread Natalie Buxton
90% of Netscape 4 users are usually Government employees forced to use an outdated browser due to the fear that beaurocrats (I cant spell) have about upgrading. Don't blame the end user for the lousy browser their employer sticks them with. Educate the employers instead. On Fri, 10 Dec 2004

Re: [WSG] Netscape 4 - let it die

2004-12-10 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Don't blame the end user for the lousy browser their employer sticks them with. Educate the employers instead. Sure, if it works - don't change it. By supporting NN4 you just keep it alive and give message to bureaucrats that it is OK browser. So make it stop working. I think that employee

RE: [WSG] Netscape 4 - let it die

2004-12-10 Thread Patrick Lauke
From: Kornel Lesinski So make it stop working. I think that employee saying Boss! This doesn't work! is the best way to educate employers... Sorry, but that's rubbish. For accessibility (and, heck, good manners even) the information on your site should be navigable and usable by

Re: [WSG] Netscape 4 - let it die

2004-12-10 Thread Mordechai Peller
Kornel Lesinski wrote: Why do you let 8-year-old browser to stop you from making good pages? I agree; it's bad enough we need to cater to IE56. I look forward to when it's enough for the page to look all right in IE 6 and be functional, but not necessarily as good nor as function as it would be