Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Bert Doorn wrote:
Is it just me, or is this a common dilemma? Apart from abandoning
standards compliance (not an option as far as I'm concerned), setting
the site up in HTML4.01 Transitional and letting amateurs wreak havoc
with Micro$oft FONTPlague, what options are
Hi Bert,
I do not exact know, if you know Xml/Xsl: But using them could help a
lot.
I am using this to create the inner window without the navigation.
Look at
http://www.sql-und-xml.de/xml/index.xml - there is no navigation
defined. Matching all these Xml-Files with the associated Xsl
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Subject: [WSG] Standards compliant site, clients wants to make updates
themselves
I design sites to be standards compliant (usually
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:22:29 +0800, Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What other options are there, apart from complex, expensive CMS setups
(or forgetting about standards)?
Why not use a simple, free CMS like Wordpress or Textpattern? Both are
free (as in speech and as in beer), fairly
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Standards compliant site, clients wants to make
updates themselves
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:22:29 +0800, Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What other options are there, apart from complex, expensive CMS setups
(or forgetting about standards)?
Why
I've run into this problem quite a bit (in one way or another).
I've found in the end is that the simple most effective way to fix it is
to simply put instructions in the code with comments and do your best to
instruct them on the details.
If you don't work for a company and it's a private
So... I'll stick with I will update for you as and when needed
and charge for it. If you want CMS, I can't help you.
The best advice in the thread seemed to be using comments in the markup.
Unless they intend extreme updates, the ability to quickly locate and change
their business
So... I'll stick with I will update for you as and when needed and
charge for it. If you want CMS, I can't help you.
Or more like this?:
I will update for you as and when needed and charge for it or you
can try it yourself and I'll charge you to fix it later which may
cost more than if I did
Hi Bert
The people I am trying to help want simple buttons to format text
on static pages, not learn a new language (otherwise I'd teach
them HTML).
I haven't used this, but looked into it a while back, but it might provide a
solution for some of
your clients. Visit
Hi Peter
I am really interested in Textpattern, but like many others want to retain
XHTML/CSS validation when
clients make changes.
Another enthusiastic endorsement of Textpattern. I've used it a number of
times in scenarios where the client wants to update the site themselves (see
Bert Doorn wrote:
What other options are there, apart from complex, expensive CMS setups
(or forgetting about standards)?
Check out liveSTORYBOARD CMS (http://www.livestoryboard.com/):
* standards based CMS and standards compliant output
* completely separates look and feel, business logic and
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:28:47 +0800, Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Contribute sounds like a good idea, but it means I have to learn
to use Dreamweaver and its template system. Plus the customer
needs to learn how to use Contribute. Too hard.
You don't have to use DW templates - that's
Bert Doorn wrote:
Is it just me, or is this a common dilemma? Apart from abandoning
standards compliance (not an option as far as I'm concerned), setting
the site up in HTML4.01 Transitional and letting amateurs wreak havoc
with Micro$oft FONTPlague, what options are there to design standards
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:22:29 +0800, Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What other options are there, apart from complex, expensive CMS setups
(or forgetting about standards)?
Why not use a simple, free CMS like Wordpress or Textpattern? Both are
free (as in speech and as in beer), fairly
Bert Doorn wrote:
However, I get many prospects who want to update sites themselves. In
many cases, these are very small businesses with just one or two people,
none of which have any idea about (x)HTML. Most of them have very small
budgets, so they can't afford a complete CMS type setup (and
What other options are there, apart from complex, expensive CMS setups
(or forgetting about standards)?
I've had a lot of success with Macromedia Contribute. You can pick up
a copy for around AUD $220 from Harvey Norman or Harris Technology, it
totally respects server-side code and standards,
G'day
What is the issue with HTML 4.01 Transitional? A site that validates to
that is standards-compliant.
To the letter, yes. However, why give the client the power to
insert deprecated (even in HTML4.0, April 1998) elements and
attributes (font, center, bgcolor, background, to mention a
Bert Doorn wrote:
However, I get many prospects who want to update sites themselves. In
many cases, these are very small businesses with just one or two
people, none of which have any idea about (x)HTML. Most of them have
very small budgets, so they can't afford a complete CMS type setup
(and
Macromedia Contribute using dreamweaver templates?
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Kay Smoljak wrote:
What other options are there, apart from complex, expensive CMS setups
(or forgetting about standards)?
I've had a lot of success with Macromedia Contribute. You can pick up
a copy for around AUD $220 from Harvey Norman or Harris Technology, it
totally
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