RE: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-31 Thread michael.brockington
-candy, and I really don't mind it looking better in FireFox than it does on IE. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Jeffery Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:59 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-31 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
With the sliding doors style if your boxes have standard content such as a header followed by a paragraph then you can avoid adding any additional markup too. James Jeffery wrote: What methods do you find best when creating rounded corners and which methods are the most supported? I have

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-31 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
That reminds me you can see what I was playing around with a couple of years ago on my cruddy broken web site. http://jixor.com/Stuff/Web/Panes James Jeffery wrote: What methods do you find best when creating rounded corners and which methods are the most supported? I have been using span

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-31 Thread James Ellis
Hi Paul Too true, I'll figure out some sort of caching - probably a combo of server and client - at the moment it is just me hitting the script during testing. Thanks James On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:07:45 am Paul Bennett wrote: Now instead of opening up inkscape it's just a call to a PHP

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-31 Thread Bruce
Personally, and perhaps I am too motivated towards simplicity, I use three images. One across the top, one in middle, one for bottom. I find JavaScript annoying as I watch the corners filling in after page loads. Four to six images using css are better, but still problematical for

RE: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-31 Thread James Leslie
For fixed width boxes I use 3 images - 1 for the top, 1 for the middle and 1 for the bottom For totally fluid boxes I try to use tags inside the container (headings and paragraph tags can be useful here depending on content) and then add divs as appropriate James James Jeffery wrote: What

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-31 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
I can offer this simple method: http://mikecherim.com/experiments/css_smart_corners.php I prefer spans over divs because divs do have semantic value as divisions whereas span are like puffs of air in that they serve as nothing more than a hook for styles, etc. I'd rather offer a span to accept

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-31 Thread Dave Woods
Hi Mike, I was considering using span's instead of div's for my example but was a little torn between the two as I'd usually use span's for their inline purpose in a block of text or for styling something within an inline element (when obviously a div would be invalid). I suppose in either case

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-31 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
Mike check out the example I posted earlier and you can see how it can be done without all the extra markup. Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: I can offer this simple method: http://mikecherim.com/experiments/css_smart_corners.php I prefer spans over divs because divs do have semantic value as

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-31 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
No worries, I use threaded view in my mail client so its easy for me to backtrack. http://jixor.com/Stuff/Web/Panes Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: Jixor - Stephen I wrote: Mike check out the example I posted earlier and you can see how it can be done without all the extra markup. I

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-31 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Jixor - Stephen I wrote: Mike check out the example I posted earlier and you can see how it can be done without all the extra markup. I need a link please. Mike *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-31 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Jixor - Stephen I wrote: http://jixor.com/Stuff/Web/Panes Thanks. That's clever and simple. Cheers. Mike *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

RE: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-30 Thread Mohamed Jama
Depending on the background, if the corners blue and the background is white then there is no problem a normal gif would do best but if the background is gradient or patterned then maybe in Photoshop when saving for web make sure its gif and set the matte option to a color close enough to the

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-30 Thread James Jeffery
You can try it out for yourself by changing the images to a solid color and change the font-size in the body to 1em and test in IE5.5. See what you come up with. On Oct 30, 2007 4:46 PM, James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was having a slight issue using span tags, the problem with IE5.x.

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-30 Thread James Jeffery
I was having a slight issue using span tags, the problem with IE5.x. I fixed it and it now displays perfect. I had a problem that when text was made larger in IE5.x the 2 corner images to the right would shift one pixel to the left and it displayed messy. If i add font-size: 0.9em to the body it

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-30 Thread James Ellis
Hi James I got so sick of doing rounded corners and having to open a graphics program to change them (Hey, I'm a developer) when the design changed that I wrote PHP script using Imagick2.0 that draws the quadrants using the correct foreground colour, background color (or transparent), border

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-30 Thread akella
May be i'm missing something, but what's wrong with wrapping divs? Much more stable approach... smth like this: div class=wr1div class=wr2div class=wr3div class=wr4 [content] /div/div/div/div .wr1{background:url(corner-top-left.png)} ... On 10/30/07, James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-30 Thread James Jeffery
Nothing wrong with it to my knowledge. I find semantic wise, both are invalid, this is no fault of the designer, its a limitation to do with CSS. I have never really used the div method. On Oct 30, 2007 11:39 PM, akella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May be i'm missing something, but what's wrong

RE: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-30 Thread Paul Bennett
Now instead of opening up inkscape it's just a call to a PHP script like: background-image: url(corner.png.php?fgc=cccbs=1bgc=000bc=fffr=90); So for everytime the css file is called, your script has to create an image? Has this impacted on your sites / servers performance any? Have you

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-30 Thread Christian Snodgrass
I also prefer using the div tags. I think it's as semantically valid as span, which neither of them really are. The idea for a PHP round corners script is a very interesting one as well. I'd be interested in seeing that script. -- Christian Snodgrass Azure Ronin Web Design